Im just new here today, so Hello to everyone on Toms . Ive been around PCs for quite a few years, and I can hold my own in discussion, but i still consider myself a student compared to some and always happy to learn more
Im upgrading from a 9800GTX+ to an XFX HD 4890 XXX costing £180 (Its in the post now). However, I was also considering an HD 5850 but that would cost me an exra £60, but its on my Credit card, so who cares right.. hehe. I have a few questions though..
- Would my current set up bottleneck an HD5850, making it a waste of money. I dont intend upgrading my system yet.
- Will the HD 4890 be ok on a nVidia 650i chipset.
- Im wanting it for gaming and using my PC as a 1080p media centre on a 40" Samsung LCD 550 through the DVI HDMI on the TV. Would that work well.
I recently RMA'd a Palit GTX 260 1792MB due to a failed mem module, plus I fancy a change from nVidia, so im looking to give ATi a go. I like the idea of the on-chip Audio For HDMI and the 4890 beats a 260 in many benchmarks for the same price, although the 4890 uses more power.
Will the HD 4890 be ok, or should I go full out HD 5850.
to some extent in some games - your CPU at 3GHz will hold you back some, but is well worth it as the 5850 will allow you to use 4 or 8xAA etc which will limit the CPU bottleneck and balance things out more.
Due to that extra price increase though, thats still £45 more. How would a 5770 Vapor-X or Toxic fit. I know the 4890 kills the 5770 in almost every benchmark, so if i were to look at a 5770 would i be better off staying with the 4890, although I know the 4890 is only DX10.1, but from what ive read DX11 wont start mainstream in games for at leats 2 - 3 years..
Also, how would the 4890 fit into a media centre setup above, and would it be ok on an nforce mobo.
Thanks for the great responses guys, really appreciate the support. Thanks for the benchmarks and figurse Palin, that electricity/heat saving alone made me realise. Ive decided to Return the 4890 without breaking the seal, guaranteeing me a refund. I now realise that £180 is a bit high for this card, but who hasnt impulse bought eh .
Whether ill go Full HD 5850, i have to see (The bank manager will love me). I might sleep on it and wait for some stores to re-stock, making better competition and my budget was originally £170.
Im running at 1920x1080 native on my 24" iiyama and ll be running at this res on my 40" Samsung 550LCD Media centre as well. Will i still notice a increased performance difference between a 5850 and a 5770 Vapor-X at that resolution.
The VaporX has a somewhat modest 10MHz factory OC over standard LOL
But its cooling is good.
You won't be able to be running 4xAA with Ultra High in modern games at that res and will be maybe compromising from the start and wanting to add a 2nd one. It will be nice, just not what it could be.
Anyway I have added a default 5770 figures to the set - 10MHz will make almost no difference I think
Getting back to the original question about bottlenecking. I haven't personally seen a motherboard bottleneck a video card since the EISA days. If the card fits in the slot, then odds are that slot can handle the card. More often than not, 98% of the systems are bottlenecked in games by the capability of the card rather than the CPU or backplain of the mobo.
-Ive gone for this because its falls bang in the middle of my choices
-its at the top end of my budget £200, my 9800GTX is slow and there arent any 5850s available and they'll be in short supply for a while, so the sellers are really pushing the prices up on the ones that are left.
-Im a liitle concerned that the 5850 may slow and bottleneck my system, plus the 5830 is still future proof and is a good card.
-Its as fast as a GTX275 and a HD4890.
-Even though its a standard XFX card (not XXX or Black Edition), it has a Vapor-X style custom cooler on it, which will be good for overclocking and temps.
- You get an extra DVI-HDMI adaptor for multiple displays, Not really a choice maker.. but you get full AvP free in the box..
Oh and i know its bad but...
-It looks very cool as well.. hehe.
So thats my choice, trust me, ive been just about crazy with so many reviews and benchmards between the 5770 and the 5850 that i thought Ide get the best of both worlds.. speed and budget.