Thief 2/Catalyst 4.10 Issue

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"Truck" <noemail@thisho.use> wrote in message
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> Has anyone else had any problems since the new 4.10 drivers came out
> with either ATI or OmegaDrivers? Here's the issue my setup's having
> (I also sent it to ATI but figured I'd check here as well):
>
> When using Catalyst 4.10 drivers and playing Thief 2, when you read
> maps/scrolls/books/etc./anything that causes the screen to (I'm
> guessing) change the refresh rate/resolution, the game will about 95%
> of the time lock up with a black screen. If you hit the `Esc' key, XP
> will then put you back at the Desktop where you can restart the game
> and either load a saved game or quicksave. Uninstalling Catalyst 4.10
> and reinstalling Catalyst 4.9 resolves this issue (either the ATI or
> OmegaDriver version).
>
> I received a response back from ATI this morning that they feel it's a
> setup issue and then they provided some generic information in regards
> to updates, etc. all of which of course I already have (Direct X,
> chipset drivers, etc.). I still don't get it, if it's a `setup'
> issue, why can I revert to the 4.9's and declare problem solved? :-)
>
> There's no problem running the 4.9's, I've just always been a firm
> believer in running the latest version of any updates for a variety of
> reasons. And I figure there has to be other Thief 2 gamers with ATI
> videocards roaming about here. I did try using the 4.10 Beta drivers
> from OmegaDriver.net, they didn't cause the black screen lockup, but
> they did cause a sort of `pulsing effect' with the speed of the game.
> One moment you were walking normal and then next the game was running
> at 5 times normal speed. Kind of funny in some situations though.
> ;-)

When it comes to hardware drivers, especially ATI drivers, my policy is
"don't fix if it ain't broke."

I even ignored it when Thief S setup got mad about the Catalyst version I
was running (it was an old version that the readme explicitly warned
against.) The game rendered fine despite its complaining so I wasn't about
to perterb my system and retest all my games for it.

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Yeah, sometimes it takes them a release or two to fix the things that
end up broke. I'm still sending them follow-up emails that it's
something within their drives.

Wil


On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:35:22 GMT, "SpammersDie" <y@y.yyy> wrote:

>
>"Truck" <noemail@thisho.use> wrote in message
>news:880fo0tsmblfqm29d3d9fnkl8vqur5e0s0@4ax.com...
>> Has anyone else had any problems since the new 4.10 drivers came out
>> with either ATI or OmegaDrivers? Here's the issue my setup's having
>> (I also sent it to ATI but figured I'd check here as well):
>>
>> When using Catalyst 4.10 drivers and playing Thief 2, when you read
>> maps/scrolls/books/etc./anything that causes the screen to (I'm
>> guessing) change the refresh rate/resolution, the game will about 95%
>> of the time lock up with a black screen. If you hit the `Esc' key, XP
>> will then put you back at the Desktop where you can restart the game
>> and either load a saved game or quicksave. Uninstalling Catalyst 4.10
>> and reinstalling Catalyst 4.9 resolves this issue (either the ATI or
>> OmegaDriver version).
>>
>> I received a response back from ATI this morning that they feel it's a
>> setup issue and then they provided some generic information in regards
>> to updates, etc. all of which of course I already have (Direct X,
>> chipset drivers, etc.). I still don't get it, if it's a `setup'
>> issue, why can I revert to the 4.9's and declare problem solved? :-)
>>
>> There's no problem running the 4.9's, I've just always been a firm
>> believer in running the latest version of any updates for a variety of
>> reasons. And I figure there has to be other Thief 2 gamers with ATI
>> videocards roaming about here. I did try using the 4.10 Beta drivers
>> from OmegaDriver.net, they didn't cause the black screen lockup, but
>> they did cause a sort of `pulsing effect' with the speed of the game.
>> One moment you were walking normal and then next the game was running
>> at 5 times normal speed. Kind of funny in some situations though.
>> ;-)
>
>When it comes to hardware drivers, especially ATI drivers, my policy is
>"don't fix if it ain't broke."
>
>I even ignored it when Thief S setup got mad about the Catalyst version I
>was running (it was an old version that the readme explicitly warned
>against.) The game rendered fine despite its complaining so I wasn't about
>to perterb my system and retest all my games for it.
>

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"SpammersDie" <y@y.yyy> wrote in message
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>
> When it comes to hardware drivers, especially ATI drivers, my policy is
> "don't fix if it ain't broke."
>

Amen to that. I'm using Cat 4.2s with Thief 3 and a Radeon 9100, whiich is
a good all around version for such an old card. Newer drivers cause various
problems, while older drivers won't even render a picture.

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This has been resolved with the 4.11 driver release. FYI :-)

Wil


On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 07:49:00 -0500, Truck <noemail@thisho.use> wrote:

>Has anyone else had any problems since the new 4.10 drivers came out
>with either ATI or OmegaDrivers? Here's the issue my setup's having
>(I also sent it to ATI but figured I'd check here as well):
>
>When using Catalyst 4.10 drivers and playing Thief 2, when you read
>maps/scrolls/books/etc./anything that causes the screen to (I'm
>guessing) change the refresh rate/resolution, the game will about 95%
>of the time lock up with a black screen. If you hit the `Esc' key, XP
>will then put you back at the Desktop where you can restart the game
>and either load a saved game or quicksave. Uninstalling Catalyst 4.10
>and reinstalling Catalyst 4.9 resolves this issue (either the ATI or
>OmegaDriver version).
>
>I received a response back from ATI this morning that they feel it's a
>setup issue and then they provided some generic information in regards
>to updates, etc. all of which of course I already have (Direct X,
>chipset drivers, etc.). I still don't get it, if it's a `setup'
>issue, why can I revert to the 4.9's and declare problem solved? :-)
>
>There's no problem running the 4.9's, I've just always been a firm
>believer in running the latest version of any updates for a variety of
>reasons. And I figure there has to be other Thief 2 gamers with ATI
>videocards roaming about here. I did try using the 4.10 Beta drivers
>from OmegaDriver.net, they didn't cause the black screen lockup, but
>they did cause a sort of `pulsing effect' with the speed of the game.
>One moment you were walking normal and then next the game was running
>at 5 times normal speed. Kind of funny in some situations though.
>;-)
>
>Thanks for any insight,
>
>Wil