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I have a biostar TF570 SLI A2+ that had a amd 64x2 cpu that I upgraded to a amd 9750 x4, sys wouldn’t boot with new cpu so I reinstalled my orig cpu and it wont boot with that either, reset cmos and now I get a tone that oem says no mem detected or installed. Never touched the mem, is my cpu shot or my mem shot?

the new cpu is on my mobo's support list but it is the higest cpu it says the board supports, also it is the 2nd cpu i tried, used a 9650 the first time, thought i had a bad cpu and it was replaced by the seller for a 9750, and the first time when i tried the 9650 i just put my orig cpu back in and it lit up no prob

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ric926 wrote :

I have a biostar TF570 SLI A2+ that had a amd 64x2 cpu that I upgraded to a amd 9750 x4, sys wouldn’t boot with new cpu so I reinstalled my orig cpu and it wont boot with that either, reset cmos and now I get a tone that oem says no mem detected or installed. Never touched the mem, is my cpu shot or my mem shot?

the new cpu is on my mobo's support list but it is the higest cpu it says the board supports, also it is the 2nd cpu i tried, used a 9650 the first time, thought i had a bad cpu and it was replaced by the seller for a 9750, and the first time when i tried the 9650 i just put my orig cpu back in and it lit up no prob



just found out that the cpu the seller replaced is a 125 watt vs 95 9750vs 9650 and my mobo is a 95 watt board, so did i fry the mem? or the board as i said my board is giving tone of no mem installed

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Can you get into bios? If not...

Take the memory out, power on the board, then off, then put the ram back in. Maybe reset in the process of doing that. Do the same process with the CPU also, if the ram didn't work. Sounds like the motherboard either detected something wrong or set something wrong or just went koo-put and decided its time is over.


Since you added a reply while I was typing this.. here is a response to the 2nd part:
Yes, you probably fried something. I'd call them up and see what can be done about this :fou:


Message edited by Blckhaze on 06-07-2010 at 12:31:22 PM
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zipzoomflyhigh wrote :

You can't run a 125w cpu on a 95w limited motherboard, you may have fried something. The seller should have checked that the cpu is supported by your mobo before selling it to you.

http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/t [...] p?S_ID=304

As you can see in the chart, there are no 125w cpu's listed.

Off the subject though, you don't want a 9650/9750, they are complete junk.

For about $100 we could hook you up with a new cpu/mobo combo that would perform better.

Let us know your complete system specs and what you use the computer for and we can make a suggestion for you.


that sounds good, i use it as a media center pc, music movies, etc, some web stuff, but i usually run multiple apps and put it thru its paces, i am have dual geoforce 8600 vid cards, dont use both but would also like the same type of mobo, as far as # of sata conn's (running 2 ide dev and 7 sata's)
yeah the guy screwed up, i have been strictly a intel guy and this is my first foray into amd, i'm getting a err msg from the mobo that says mem is not installed, so i am hoping that i only fried the mem, gonna pick up a stick of ddr2 and find out, send me info on the boards/cpu's your talking about, thanks

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zipzoomflyhigh wrote :

Well I didn't know you needed a crossfire motherboard, or do you? I mean 8600 is low end, even two of them is low end.

Id suggest if you need something more powerful than 1 you should just get a new video card.

Do you live near a Microcenter? This is a great deal, quad core and a free mobo.

http://www.microcenter.com/shoppin [...] 4204660084


no i am in washington state, and didnt see one listed, the link worked but i didnt see a free mobo, i bought this system for 250 bucks from a kid gamer by the looks of it, good vid cards but i only use one anyway

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also i have the crossfire jumper but dont even know what it does! btw what is a good amd cpu then? as for mobos i like msi or biostar or gigabyte

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zipzoomflyhigh wrote :

The jumper connects the card so they work as one.

What is your budget for a new cpu/mobo?


100 for sure, 150 for the right mobo/cpu/mem ? combo
quad core for sure, ddr2 1066 min on the mem say up to ddr3 1600 or so should be fast enuff
your link just takes me to the main page, what are the specs / model num of the 1 cent mobo?
thanks for all your help, i could hate the guy who sold me the cpu but i bought the 9650 and it wouldnt lite, so for a swap i said ohhh how bout a 9750 (not knowing it was a 125 watt cpu, now i did know you cant run a 125 cpu on a 95w board) but he shoulda caught the 125w issue as i sent him specs before i bought the first cpu and when the first didnt work he asked for my specs a 2nd time so he thought he was being nice by sending the 9750........grrrrr

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yeah give me the make and model of the 1 cent mobo, i would really like to check that out

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zipzoomflyhigh wrote :

The link works fine for me, not sure why it doesn't work for you. If your not near a microcenter, what's the point of checking out the free mobo?

Let me get this right, you want 2gb ddr2, a quad core cpu, and a motherboard for $150? Can't do it. Your looking at $100 for the cpu alone.



uhh you told me there was a board for a penny, i have ddr 2 mem and when i wrote that i specificly put
board/cpu/mem(?) with a question mark on the mem
YOU told me for a hundred bucks you could hook me up with a board cpu combo, it's almost the middle of the month thats why i said a hundred for sure and 150 on the outside, begining of the month diff story, hell i dont know why the link dont work, all it does is take me to the main page with NOTHING IN THE CART, what more do you want from me??
i picked up the quad core 9750 for 60 bucks off ebay (i know you said there garbage but you never said why or what kind of chip i should be looking for, i picked up a tf570 sli for 20 bucks off ebay yesterday (i had a tf570sli a+) only diff is the a+ supports quad cores
if you want to help help if not thanks for your time, and you have still yet to tell me the sku or make and model num of the penny mobo (its called shipping, they do do that now that its the 21st century. right?

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Touchy, touchy.....Geez

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The link is a dead end though...Tigersdirect.com can hook you up, your're gonna be hard pressed to find a combo for that amount even $150.00..hold-up I'll do the finger work and see what I can scrape up for $150.00....Stand-by

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lowjack989 wrote :

Touchy, touchy.....Geez


not really but to tell me about a penny mobo and get mad at me cuz his link wont work for me..
then tell me "i can get you a cpu/mobo for 100' and then tell me it's not poss? all i gave him was a list of what i'd like to have, and what i could spend right now, that's all, just wanted answers not drag stuff out

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If your gonna buy off of E-Bay expect inferior quality about 75% of the time...... let me track down a cheap CPU/Memory combo for you for that board...


Message edited by lowjack989 on 06-10-2010 at 09:01:33 PM
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thanks for the links, for the money think i'd go with the phenom II, been an intel guy so amd is kinda new to me, i like the board, but can wait to get one a little higher up (i need at least 6 sata conns) i'm (was) running a tf570sli A+ dual geof 8600 2 ide dev's and 6 sata's, 2 exp cards, all i wanted to do was upgrade from a dual core 4000+ to a 9650 quad, and ended up with a 9750 that fried my mobo, i knew i couldnt run a 125 watt cpu in a 95w board just didnt know the 9750 was 125w (9650 yeah 95 w) soooo here i am, thanks!

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will check em, whats the diff between athlon,sempron, phenom, etc?

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Heres a nice board for the price....allows for later upgrades like support for socket AM3 cpus

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=2320

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Sempron is OK, Athlon is better, Phenom is good, Athlon II is a new socket type i.e. AM3, Phenom II is the best...The good thing is most these will fit on the same board as opposed to changing boards everytime you want to upgrade..Thats my $0.02 worth on it

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lowjack989 wrote :

Heres a nice board for the price....allows for later upgrades like support for socket AM3 cpus

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=2320


so i could run a phenom 2 quad core on this board? i really like this board, very sim to what i have now

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Yes you can run a Phenom II X4 on that board no problems..... you might want to update BIOS other than that its perfect.

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I would go with the Phenom II X4 940 without having to update BIOS...if I was gonna update the BIOS I would go with the Phenom II X6 1090t but I think that is outside of your budget a bit

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ok then that is what i will do i will go ahead and get the board and then that cpu asap or vice versa, i just needed to get back up and running that's why i was on such a tight budget, soon as next month hits it wont be so tight. what is the between the 940 vs 1090 other than 4 core vs 6 core? i dont know that i really need 6 core (course it would be nice) the 'computer junkie' in me always wants the most....

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Whats all the fuss about already Zip...It'll be alright

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zipzoomflyhigh wrote :

Ok Mr. attitude, I'll try to explain so that you can understand.

You get a board for a penny, if you buy the specified cpu.....YOU DONT JUST GET A BOARD FOR A PENNY...if you thought that, well, then your probably already confused by what your reading right now. No surprise there.

IT'S AN IN STORE SPECIAL ONLY- THEY DO NOT SHIP. WHICH IS WHY I ASKED IF YOU LIVE NEAR THE STORE......YES THEY CAN OFFER SPECIAL IN-STORE PRICES- EVEN IN THE 21ST CENTURY.

Yes I said I could get you a cpu/mobo combo for $100. Then you said you wanted a quad core. You cannot get a quad core, memory, and a mobo for $150.

Is it starting to sink in?


i had a grip long time ago, what i was getting pissed about is the idiot who sold me the cpu i gave the specs of my board twice, he either knew or shoulda known that was a 125w cpu, i asked you 2 or 3 times for the sku/make/model of the board and told you twice that the link wouldnt work, of course i didnt expect to get the board without the cpu, cant believe they wont ship (i understand the concept of instore spec) just supprised that if they want to get rid of it they wont ship, normally i am not this cranky but if somebody cooked your only running box you'd be pissed too!! i am just in a $$ crunch right now, i do appreceate all the help....

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zipzoomflyhigh wrote :

I can't believe what I'm reading. After all that and saying he only had $150 for a mobo/ram/cpu, now he wants a hexa-core. Wow, just wow.


i told you i only had 100-150 right now, hell this whole thing started cuz i tried to upgrade my dual to a quad, sheesh, again i just wanted to get up and running for the rest of the month, you offered me a board/cpu at 100, i HAVE mem, and i told you what i would like EVENTUALLY, HELL NO I DIDNT EXPECT BOARD MOBO AND MEM FOR A BENJIE (THATS 100 TO YOU WHIPPERSNAPPERS


enuff said, thanks again, ya'all can post what ever *** ya want after this i'm out

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ric926 wrote :

ok then that is what i will do i will go ahead and get the board and then that cpu asap or vice versa, i just needed to get back up and running that's why i was on such a tight budget, soon as next month hits it wont be so tight. what is the between the 940 vs 1090 other than 4 core vs 6 core? i dont know that i really need 6 core (course it would be nice) the 'computer junkie' in me always wants the most....






Thats good....4 cores are a plenty unless you just like over doing it...

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i think 4's enuff, i know i could just about peg that 4000+ dual core, i had 2 gigs of ram and needed 2 more
the setup i had running was
tf570 a+ mobo, 2 gigs ddr2 800
dual geoforce 8600
sata dvd/cd burner
dual 320 gb sata hd
dual 250 sata hd
dual 160 sata hd
500 gb ide hd
trip boot: win mce 05 32 bit/xp64/win7 pro 64
exp slot nic
exp slot wifi nic
exp slot pci tv tuner
dual 4095 mb page files (i know it's over kill on the pf, but i have always run a pf with a size of 4095 and always on a slave drive other than the boot/sys partition
i go all the way back to dos 3.0 when i first got started (and mainframes) just never ventured in to AMD

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OH the 500 gb was external

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yeah and i woulda bought something else (mem,cpu) if they would ship, then their idiots and lost the business

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Indeed ric companies that do not ship are idiots for sure...WTF is that all about anyways some kind of mind f*** . Oh well, I only shop at Tigersdirect, Newegg, and FrozenCPU.com....They have anything you'd ever need for a computer I am sure there are other vendors that ar good but I stick to the ones with a good track record for customer service. Screw microcenter or whatever its called they don't ship their specials I guess thats why they are called the microcenter...its getting'em nowhere

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exactally!!:) maybe it should be 'microbrain center'!!

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i am one frackin lucky sob, one bad stick of mem, pulled it and she lit right up, runs dead dog slow with only a gig of mem but she runs!!! and what i dont get is i bought a brand new stick and it wouldnt lite, hmmmmm, prob gonna b a buggy board from here on out, thanks again guys !!

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