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February 10, 2013 2:27:48 PM

So I'm looking to upgrade my system with a modest Overclock to both the CPU and GPU however my current issue is heat. Now this is due to only having the stock cooler and stock case fans installed at this time, but I now have a little bit of money laying around (around £80) and I am looking to buy a H60 and some decent case fans. I have already purchased a 120mm fan which I was planning to install on the side panel, but it is not yet installed. So I have a few questions about the H60 and the correct fan configuration.

1) How much better is a dual fan set up on the H60 (push/pull etc) than the just standard one fan?

2) My case is the HAF 912 plus, I have a 200mm intake on the front and 120mm (stock) on the back as exhaust. What would be the best fan configuration (including the H60)?

3) If I do go for the dual fan setup on the H60 shall I replace both as well as the stock that already comes with the H60?

Lastly if you have any personal favorites and suggestions for which fans I should purchase, would be much appreciated, many thanks :) 

Specs:
Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus USB 2.0 ATX Case
Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0 Motherboard
AMD FX8350 Black Edition 8 Core Processor
Sapphire AMD 7850 2GB
Cooler Master 650w 80+ PSU (RS650-ACAAE3-UK GX-Series)
Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Memory Module Kit
WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA III 6GB/s Internal Hard Drive 3.5 inch
LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA
a b K Overclocking
February 10, 2013 8:41:18 PM

I wouldn't get the h60 to be honest a good air cooler can perform better than it, I'd suggest this cooler it will perform better than the h60
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/phanteks-cpu-performance...
for a case fan I suggest this the noise/performance ratio is great its really quiet and moves a good bit of air http://www.scan.co.uk/products/120mm-be-quiet!-silent-wings-2-quiet-fan-pwm-max-speed-1500rpm-noise-100-157-db(a)
if its for use on the h60 radiator I suggest this http://www.scan.co.uk/products/120mm-noctua-nf-f12-pwm-...
the radiator on the h60 is not that thick so i don't think a push pull configuration will be of much benifit and the fan that comes with the h60 is quiet loud so the fan I suggested is much better
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February 11, 2013 12:18:32 AM

ok so you need a pump, rad, the blocks for the CPU and GPU, and maybe a res for the loop and you should be good to go all you need to do now is deside what products you want for that loop. the H60 for that matter no H model will work for what you want.
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February 11, 2013 3:48:07 PM

toolmaker_03 said:
ok so you need a pump, rad, the blocks for the CPU and GPU, and maybe a res for the loop and you should be good to go all you need to do now is deside what products you want for that loop. the H60 for that matter no H model will work for what you want.

I'm not looking for a fully water cooled system, I'd rather something similar which requires less maintenance such as the H60.
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February 11, 2013 5:14:57 PM

well if you are really set on a water cooler get the h100i or the Antec Kúhler H2O 920 otherwise just go for a good air cooler, the h60 is not worth it
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February 11, 2013 6:11:58 PM

instead of push/pull on an H60, get the H100. It will way out perform the H60 and comes with 2 fans & a better RAD. But if thats too much coin, buy a good air cooler.

If you do put another fan on the H60, make sure its the same RPM's as the stock fan.
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a c 325 K Overclocking
February 11, 2013 6:49:57 PM

If you are on a budget, look for a good air cooler as it will perform about the same while saving you some money.

For the cost of an H100i, you are within $20 of an entry level watercooling loop. (depending on retailer)
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February 11, 2013 6:54:49 PM

rubix_1011 said:
If you are on a budget, look for a good air cooler as it will perform about the same while saving you some money.

For the cost of an H100i, you are within $20 of an entry level watercooling loop. (depending on retailer)


I think he said above that he wanted the low maintenance of a CLC, which is why he wants a Hydro series cooler. But otherwise I agree, the XSPC RS240 is $35 more than an H100i but obviously much better performance.
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February 11, 2013 7:48:44 PM

kid_darknesssss said:
I think he said above that he wanted the low maintenance of a CLC, which is why he wants a Hydro series cooler. But otherwise I agree, the XSPC RS240 is $35 more than an H100i but obviously much better performance.

That is correct, I'm not looking to get into this as a hobby just a decent cooler :)  The H series was appealing because it seemed the best of both worlds being supposedly quieter (if you get the right fans), easy to install, especially if you working on a amd board like me and lastly its CLC so no maintenance. So keeping all that in mind would you suggest the H100i? Some people rave about it while others seem unhappy, also the issue with this is I am not certain it would fit into the Haf 912, though I have heard it can be modded.
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February 12, 2013 12:55:50 AM

The HAF 912 should fit an H100 fine, but just double check that the top vent has 15mm spacing in between the two fan holes. It will either be 15mm or like 20-25mm.

The viewpoints on the H series can be mixed to say the least. As far as the H100, I feel that it is better at cooling your CPU than any 3rd party air cooler, but its also a bit more expensive so performance for dollar might not be as high as a good air cooler, but bottom line is you should get better temps than said air cooler. Also, That goes for the H100 ONLY. Once you start talking about the H80 or below, I feel that an air cooler is the better choice because the performance of an H80 is pretty much the same as said air cooler, but its still more expensive.

So in the end its kinda like:

Water Cooling: Best - $140+

H100i: Very good - $110

H80i: More Good - $95

H60: Good - $70

Hyper 212 EVO: Good - $35

Stock Cooler: Crap - Free w/ CPU

You'll see that while the Hydro series are all good coolers, the VALUE isnt always there compared to something cheap like the hyper 212. That said you can spend $80 on an air cooler too, but I'd rather not have all that weight hanging off my MoBo.
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a c 325 K Overclocking
February 12, 2013 2:06:50 AM

Hyper has a backplate and really isn't that heavy...I've installed at least 5 and are pretty lightweight.
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a c 175 K Overclocking
February 12, 2013 4:28:16 AM

For half the cost and the same performance, a Hyper 212 EVO is a much better option than a H60.
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/cm_hyper212_evo...

Closed loop coolers offer bad value for money, particularly the low end ones. Its only at the higher end like the H100 where its kind of worth it, but as others have pointed out, then your only $20 from a custom kit.

1. It will be better, but not by much. The FPI on CLC rads is pretty low, so adding another fan (for more pressure) wont make that much of a difference.

2. Just the way it is, except there will be a H60 instead of that back 120mm. Maybe move the 120mm to the side panel.

3. See 1, If you buy two top-notch fans for the H60, the fans will end up almost costing as much as the unit itself. Would just be better off buying a better cooler in the first place.
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February 12, 2013 2:28:32 PM

manofchalk said:
For half the cost and the same performance, a Hyper 212 EVO is a much better option than a H60.


Closed loop coolers offer bad value for money, particularly the low end ones. Its only at the higher end like the H100 where its kind of worth it, but as others have pointed out, then your only $20 from a custom kit.
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This is exactly what I was trying to say. I prob just didnt say it as well.
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February 12, 2013 2:31:06 PM

rubix_1011 said:
Hyper has a backplate and really isn't that heavy...I've installed at least 5 and are pretty lightweight.


I guess its more the height plus weight that freaks me out a bit. all the weight being at the "top" creates leverage and I just have nightmares of that preasure cracking my mobo over time. I'm sure your right and they are fine, i doubt they would release a product that would do that, but its still always in the back of my mind.
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a c 325 K Overclocking
February 12, 2013 3:04:06 PM

The cooler is pretty lightweight overall (going to install one on my son's build tonight, actually) and they use a backplate that really helps support and distribute the mount. I actually would never use a larger air cooler without a backplate mounting option...it's just so much nicer and more secure than pushpin mounts.
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February 12, 2013 6:25:18 PM

rubix_1011 said:
The cooler is pretty lightweight overall (going to install one on my son's build tonight, actually) and they use a backplate that really helps support and distribute the mount. I actually would never use a larger air cooler without a backplate mounting option...it's just so much nicer and more secure than pushpin mounts.


Well thats good to know. I've never used one of these tall 3rd party coolers so I have no hands on with them, I've just seen pictures and I know how heavy a big block of aluminum can be.
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February 12, 2013 6:32:34 PM

Best answer selected by worldofjonny2.
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