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March 12, 2010 6:21:22 AM

Is HD4650 a low-end card?Can it do above 30FPS at 1024x768 resolution in most of the games(except Crysis and etc).....I think tomshardware have misinterpreted and written in the buying guide that it delivers great gameplay at 1280x1024 and 1680x1050 with lowered detail?
Alongside this, that its coupled with a nice dual core and 2GB ram?
What do u guys say?Can tomshardware misinterpret?

P.S its a GDDr2 card.....and don't SUGGEST ME OTHER CARDS and ASK FOR MY BUDGET AND ETC....I am only seeking answer to the question above:) 

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March 12, 2010 6:25:51 AM

Yes, HD 4650 is a low end card. It might do 30FPS in every game at 1024X768 but comparatively it isn't as strong as other cards.

But it is an awesome card considering the budget. :) 

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March 12, 2010 10:21:03 AM

bikermicefrmars said:
BUMP!


Ati 5670.
March 12, 2010 12:03:45 PM

No offence, BUT I suppose some people dont bother reading the whole question before blatantly answering, I WROTE:
"and don't SUGGEST ME OTHER CARDS and ASK FOR MY BUDGET AND ETC....I am only seeking answer to the question above:) "
Now if u can answer my question, i would be thankful!

March 12, 2010 12:06:24 PM

bikermicefrmars said:
No offence, BUT I suppose some people dont bother reading the whole question before blatantly answering, I WROTE:
"and don't SUGGEST ME OTHER CARDS and ASK FOR MY BUDGET AND ETC....I am only seeking answer to the question above:) "
Now if u can answer my question, i would be thankful!


Don't expect miracles from that card, especially from 1680x1050. And yes it is low level. Very low level card.
March 12, 2010 12:21:42 PM

No bro again teh same thing....I am asking ABOUT 1024x768 resolution?Will it provide 30+FPS in all games?
March 12, 2010 12:25:01 PM

bikermicefrmars said:
No bro again teh same thing....I am asking ABOUT 1024x768 resolution?Will it provide 30+FPS in all games?


NO.
March 12, 2010 12:28:51 PM

Then my question is:

I think tomshardware have misinterpreted and written in the buying guide that it delivers great gameplay at 1280x1024 and 1680x1050 with lowered detail?
March 12, 2010 12:35:17 PM

bikermicefrmars said:
Then my question is:

I think tomshardware have misinterpreted and written in the buying guide that it delivers great gameplay at 1280x1024 and 1680x1050 with lowered detail?


It will deliver good gameplay at those resolutions for the GDDR3 version of the card. The GDDR2 version is useless.
March 12, 2010 1:03:57 PM

bikermicefrmars said:
You mean i wont GET A SMOOTH GAMEPLAY in lets say Dirt 2 , BUT WAIT WHAT ABOUT THIS?

Hows this then?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Lx3KUqYxo


Bro if you want to throw out the window 50$ tell me so I come under that window. That card is a waste of money. A real card starts at 80$ (even with money from parents a kid can buy it). Why would anyone buy that card to play games at that freaking resolution is beyond me at a time when 1280x1024 is the bare minimum in quality gameplay.
And after buying a card that won't give you the best performance at that resolution people come here complaining that card lags in Pacman.
March 12, 2010 2:22:38 PM

The point being that i currently own that card but an insufficient P4....So i am abt to upgrade to a E5300....So i want to know if i will be able to get 30FPS i most games at 1024x768 resolution(its the max my CRT supports:( )
March 12, 2010 3:41:38 PM

There are loads of games in the market.
Starting from Doom to Doom 3 to Crysis Warhead and Dirt2.

Majority of games will run very smoothly with that card.
But just the newer ones may struggle.

I think you can play newer games at 1024X786 with that card.
March 13, 2010 12:54:45 AM

Isnt there anyone other than two people!
March 13, 2010 5:51:00 AM

i think that it'll be fine at those resolutions, for the majority of games at decent settings, now of course there are exceptions, i hate even mentions but yeah crysis will be no comprendo, probably far cry 2, gta 4, mostly because of the cpu honestly. but for alot of games, like mw2 batman AA, mass effect 2, that are still pretty good looking, will probably be fine with it
March 13, 2010 6:08:57 AM

Ok....so Tomshardware is right afterall?
March 13, 2010 7:24:04 AM

no way

I own a HD4650.
On my other system E5300 4gb ddr3 etc
It is an absolute faliure
you will be chucking money down the bog if you buy that card
dont cry to yourself and get angry again,
But for gods sake, at least consider a HD4670, or a Hd5670 (i have the 512mb version, runs mw2 and dirt 2 at 45fps
March 13, 2010 2:08:57 PM

bikermicefrmars said:
U have a 4650 ddr2? how much FPS u get with it when u max out Dirt 2?At what resolution do u game at?

Can u explain this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Lx3KUqYxo

I can pretty much guess.
There is no way that card could chuck out that performance without being oc'd.
I game at 1024x768 on a 15'' Monitor. My HD4650 is not overclocked, and it is a GDDR2. I am selling it soon due to
A)It being a bad card
B)me saving up for another 5670 and a crossfiex mobo.

At dirt 2, i tried once and got these spec's:
DIRT 2, 1024x768, AA off, Medium-High
Max fps hit:34fps
Min fps hit:11fps
Avg fps hit:19fps
Playable, but not very good
March 13, 2010 2:38:23 PM

Do u have XFX card?And is that man lieing that he has a 4650?
March 14, 2010 8:23:48 AM

Anyone else guys...i am waiting?
March 14, 2010 8:38:48 AM

Was ur 4650 a ddr3 card?What was ur other specs of the rig?
March 14, 2010 9:18:34 AM

Alright, what you need to understand is that performance will vary drastically based not only on the game but also on the settings used. At your resolution the DDR2 HD4650 will give you acceptable but not particularly good performance at medium settings in most games. Some games you will be able to use high settings, others you will need to use low. They statements about resolutions in the Tom's monthly article ARE in fact inappropriate, not just for that card but for most of the others on the low end. Also I do believe it is based on the DDR3 version. A long while back the DDR3 version of that card disappeared and nothing about that articles descriptions or claims about that card changed. The same happened when it used to recommend the 9600 GSO; the card available to consumers changed into something noticeable weaker and nothing was altered. It's usually a reliable article but it has some glaring flaws such as those.
That said very recently the DDR3 HD4650 has shown up again, if only from one manufacturer. Unfortunately it is currently sold out on newegg;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Perhaps you can find it elsewhere but really like everyone else is saying you would be better off with at least the HD4670 as it is a much better choice and really isn't much more expensive.
March 14, 2010 3:53:27 PM

Interesting...now what say u, who were previously regarding as a inferior card?
March 14, 2010 5:27:13 PM

Quote:
oh realy??


Yes. I've played at similar resolutions quite often with a superior card(9600 GSO.) Admittedly I'm not talking from first hand experience but from imagining if it was 25ish% slower which is what all the benchmarks indicate. Other people talking from first hand experience have been even harsher on the card than I was so there you go.
FYI if you have a point and want others to take you seriously what you want to provide is benchmarks from respected sources, not low res youtube clips as they prove absolutely nothing about what card/system/resolution/settings were being used.
March 14, 2010 5:55:30 PM

Whatever. I didn't actually click on them because they cant possibly really prove anything. Like I said, benchmarks from reliable sources. If you can't find those to back your claims than your claims aren't worth making.
March 14, 2010 5:58:30 PM

The 3870 isn't bad mine only cost me $56 used and it gots GDDR4 and with nice clocks. The 46x0 cards are good for people who are on a small budget and have a pos for a psu. The main weakness on the 46x0 cards is the por fill rates and bandwidth on the vram but either than that they got shader.
March 14, 2010 6:08:35 PM

lol
March 14, 2010 6:29:27 PM

Ok, I just clicked them. Sadly they weren't a video with charts of reliable benchmarks. :p 
March 15, 2010 8:50:00 AM

Stop the discussion....i am hell of confused now!!!
March 15, 2010 9:52:44 AM

bikermicefrmars said:
Stop the discussion....i am hell of confused now!!!


I think its not for you anymore :lol: 


You own the card and now you can't do anything about it.
So Enjoy with what you have.
!