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$750 Budget Gamer - First Build!

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March 29, 2010 3:23:43 PM

Hey guys :hello: 

This is my first post here, but I've been looking around here for a few days and taking advice from people.

For ~2 weeks, I've been looking for parts to build a new PC.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Early April BUDGET RANGE: ~$750 Before / After Rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Surfing the Net, Gaming, Photo/Video Editing, Schoolwork

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Mouse, Keyboard, Monitor, Hard Drive, Optical Drive

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes - CF

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Preferably quieter, but not loud.

Here are the parts I've selected :) 

Motherboard - MSI 790X-G45
Processor - AMD Athlon II X4 630
CPU Cooler - Cooler Master RR-910-HTX3-G1
PSU - OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ600MXSP
Memory - Crucial 4GB (2x2)
GFX - SAPPHIRE 100245HDMI
Speakers - Logitech S-220
Sound Card - HT|OMEGA STRIKER
Case - Raidmax Tornado ATX-238WU
Headset - ABS ABZ 7.1

Thanks :D 

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March 29, 2010 3:31:11 PM

Lots of changes.

CPU/Mobo: X3 440 and Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 $195 after rebate. Triple cores are actually better for gaming, so this saves some money. The board is higher quality and more future proof.
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1333 mhz CAS Latency 7 $110. Better, faster RAM.
GPU: HD 5850 $300. A much, much better GPU.
Case/PSU: Coolermaster Centurion 5 and OCZ StealthXStream 700W $80 after rebate
HSF: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus $35. One of the best HSF out there. You can leave this out until you decide to start overclocking (which you get you almost under budget).
Sound card: Completely unnecessary. Definitely leave it out.

Total: $720. Add in the audio stuff and it's $780.
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March 29, 2010 3:42:24 PM

^1+
with a build like this you will probably get 70% 80% better performance. The gpu is the most important thing in gaming, and the 5850 is probably more than doulbe the 4850. Also as admiral mentioned, triple core really all you need for gaming, Only a handful are actually coded for quad cores.
As well as the sound card onboard sounds has really made strides, from a few years ago, and the difference between onboard and a dedicated card is close to nothing
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March 29, 2010 4:17:20 PM

The original Quad posted would be better for multi tasking or having tons running in the background, but the triple will save money.
IMHO- whilst the 5850 is an awesome graphics card its also a huge chunk of the budget, maybe consider a 5770? but that may mean compromising on the detail levels slightly so idk what your opinion is on that.
Oh, and yep- drop the soundcard and HSF, not necessary unless your an audiophile and you want to O'C it ;) 
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March 29, 2010 4:33:24 PM

The 5770 would be very weak for the OP's resolution. Yes, you could get by with lowered details, but would you really want to build a new computer then have to turn down the settings to make it run?
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March 29, 2010 4:58:40 PM

Actually, I forgot to mention this, I was going to crossfire two 4850's.
I'll probably ditch the soundcard too.
MadAdmiral, for now I'll go with your changes (except GPU).
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March 29, 2010 5:05:27 PM

I still like the single 5850. The 4850s are nice, but are aging rapidly. Probably in a year (definitely under two years) you'll need to replace them. If you go with the single 5850, it will be powerful enough for now, and still be good in two years. Then you can add a second in Crossfire for more power.

Besides, two 5750s (which are better in CF than 4850s) are about the same as the 5850. So you'd just be losing an upgrade path AND lose a lot of future proofing potential.
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March 29, 2010 5:34:56 PM

OK :) 

How's this for a GPU to CrossFire?
This would bring price after rebates to $733.90 (with speakers & headset).
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March 29, 2010 5:41:54 PM

Get a 5850, you won't regret it. You will regret a lesser card.
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March 29, 2010 6:03:55 PM

Agree. The 5850 leaves you an upgrade path, while Crossfiring right away won't.
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March 29, 2010 6:55:47 PM

Yes, but I probably won't be able to upgrade for a long time. Also, with the 5850, it's more expensive, making the price w/o rebates (Rebates don't always work) out of my price range.
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March 29, 2010 7:02:42 PM

I'd still go with the 5850. Rebates work as long as you follow the rules. If you do everything they ask when they ask you to do it, you'll get the rebate.

Another thing to keep in mind is that many games don't allow you to use Crossfire. If you grabbed the two 5750s, that means you wouldn't be able to play them.

If you're really worried about the cost and not getting the rebates, don't get the HSF right away. Leaving that out makes up most of the $40 difference between 2x 5750 and the 5850. Once you get the rebates, or you decide you need to speed it up with an overclock, buy the HSF.
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March 29, 2010 7:47:24 PM

May i make a suggestion?
SAPPHIRE 100282-3CODSR Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814102885
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$10.00 Instant
$319.99
$309.99


A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600GB2G9-AG - Retail
Item #: N82E16820211409
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$99.99


Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified ... - Retail
Item #: N82E16817371015
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Antec TWO HUNDRED S Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811129074
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$20.00 Instant
-$20.00 Combo
$149.98
$109.98


GIGABYTE GA-770TA-UD3 AM3 AMD 770 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813128419
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX250OCGQBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103681
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
-$12.00 Combo
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$159.98
$147.98
Subtotal: $667.94
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March 29, 2010 8:02:36 PM

Few issues with that build. 1) The 200 is going to be a tight fit for the 5850. It also doesn't have a lot of cooling.

2) That board, while a good one, will not support Crossfire.

3) Dual cores lose a LOT to triple cores in pretty much every application. You're losing a lot and only saving about $10 (over the 770TA-UD3/X3 440 combo).
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March 29, 2010 8:13:24 PM

MadAdmiral said:
Few issues with that build. 1) The 200 is going to be a tight fit for the 5850. It also doesn't have a lot of cooling.

2) That board, while a good one, will not support Crossfire.

3) Dual cores lose a LOT to triple cores in pretty much every application. You're losing a lot and only saving about $10 (over the 770TA-UD3/X3 440 combo).

1.Switch it to the three hundred.
2.You said crossfire was not the rote to go.
3.I actually ment to put this combo:GIGABYTE GA-770TA-UD3 AM3 AMD 770 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813128419
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
AMD Phenom II X2 550 Callisto 3.1GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Model HDX550WFGMBOX - Retail,
or he can go with the Athlon II x3 or 720
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March 29, 2010 8:17:58 PM

I said Crossfire wasn't the route to go at the beginning of the build. I consider it an almost essential upgrade option.
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March 29, 2010 8:18:52 PM

MadAdmiral said:
I said Crossfire wasn't the route to go at the beginning of the build. I consider it an almost essential upgrade option.

Ok thanks just was sugestion. :) 
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