Why is my computer BLUE SCREENING with 4 Memory Banks Full ?

[wade36]

Hello,

I have recently started to have Blue Screening trouble,with my computer, which I have been using now for over a year without any trouble,

I am running Windows Vista 64 Bit.
I have a ASUS CROSSHAIR Motherboard,
with Amd Phenom II X4 940 @ 3.0 Black Edition processor,
with 4 memory sticks of Ocz 2 GB DDR2 pc 6400 @ 800 mhz,
toataling 8 giggs of ram, with a 1 TB western digital Black sata harddrive.
Ocz 750 watt psu an Nividia xfx 9600 gso vidieo card .

My computer started to blue screen with all 4 memory banks full,
so I removed memory from banks 2 and 4 leaving banks 1 and 3
and the system booted up. when I put all the memory back in,
it started to blue screen again and would not boot,
so I remove memory from banks 3 and 4 ,
and I put memory back in Banks 1 and 2 ,
leaving 3 and 4 empty and the OS booted,
so with that said can anyone help me figure
why I can't run but 4 gigs of memory now,
instead of 8 without Blue screening?

Thanks,

Your knowledge is appreciated.

 

[wade36]

Hello,

I trouble shooted all the ram, and every stick works.
I tried several different configerations and the memory tested good.
I run windows memory check and they checked out ok.
The OS booted with the memory in every bank 1,2,3 and 4 one stick at a time.
I ended up loading banks 1,2 and 4 giving me 6 GB and the system seems to be stable.
This is really confusing, I don't understand why when I add the fouth stick in bank 3 it Blue Screens.
But if I put memory in banks 2,3 and 4 it wll boot up'
or if I put memory in banks2 and 3 or 3 and 4 or 1 and 3 it will boot.
well anyway I cleared the cmos and reset everything and the system booted with all 8 Gb of ram installed. and I thought it was gonna work,
But when I restarted the system with the 4 banks full it blue screened again, so i took out one stick of ram and the system booted back up with just 6 gb installed.

Thanks for any further help concerning this problem, I would like to continue using 8 gb of memory this has really got me puzzeld.

Your knowledge is appreciated.

 

[wade36]

Hello,

I just took out the OZC 2GB sticks of memory and replaced them with 4 x 1 GB sticks of Wintec memory ,
All the banks are full and the computer is booting on 4 gigs of 1 x 1024mb pc 6400 @ 800 mhz sticks of wintec.
and I put the Ocz memory on my other board that the wintec was on and it is all working,
the only bad thing about this switch is that the computer with the Ocz memory in it is windows professional 32 bit,
so it is just reconizing 3.25 gb of the 8 gigs of memory. I guess that's all I can do for now,
it is ashame that I can't continue to use 8 gigs with windows vista 64 bit,like it was running with.

Well Thanks,

Your knowledge is appreciated.

 

[wade36]

No, I just left it on Auto settings.

 

[wade36]

Yeah, I will need to upgrade my OS. thats for sure.

 

[shortstuff_mt]

Many motherboards don't supply the RAM with enough voltage when using "Auto" settings, especially when you have all the RAM slots filled. You should manually set the RAM speed, timings, and voltage to the manufacturers rated specs in the BIOS.

 

[jaquith]

^ @shortstuff_mt {PERFORM THESE STEPS} +#23 Corrupted Sleep State - Boot into Safe Mode F8.

There are at least 5 versions of ASUS Crosshair and 2 with DDR2;

Crosshair - http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=9s5xj9DAuUWX35gT
DDR2 Voltage -> {Set to spec per the "Ocz 2 GB DDR2 pc 6400 @ 800 mhz"}
NB Core Voltage -> increase +1~2 notches above listed per BIOS; 1.20v -> 1.25v -> 1.28v

 

[jaquith]

'Honey Do's...' and 'Office Do's'

 

[wade36]

Hello,

Here's an update on what I did, I went into the bios and set the memory to 1066 mhz and the voltage is 2.00 volts cpuz is showwing 6-6-6-18 25 clocks 2T with 8 giggs of ddr2 and she is purring like a kitten.
Here is my memory status.



Your knowledge is appreciated.



General Information :
DIMM_B1 (RAS 2, RAS 3) : 2048 (Double Bank)
DIMM_B2 (RAS 6, RAS 7) : 2048 (Double Bank)
DIMM_A1 (RAS 0, RAS 1) : 2048 (Double Bank)
DIMM_A2 (RAS 4, RAS 5) : 2048 (Double Bank)

Information SPD EEPROM (DIMM_B1) :
Manufacturer : OCZ
Part Number : OCZ2N800SR2G
Serial Number : Unspecified
Type : DDR2-SDRAM PC2-6400 (399MHz) - [DDR2-800]
Format : Regular UDIMM (133.35 x 3)
Size : 2048MB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
Module Buffered : No
Module Registered : No
Module SLi Ready (EPP) : Yes
Width : 64-bit
Error Correction Capability (EC... No
Max. Burst Length : 8
Refresh : Reduced (.5x)7.8, Self Refreshµs
Voltage : SSTL 1.8v
Prefetch Buffer : 4-bit
Manufacture : 2000
Supported Frequencies : 333MHz, 400MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) : 4 clocks @ 333MHz, 5 clocks @ 400MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 5 clocks @ 333MHz, 6 clocks @ 400MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 5 clocks @ 333MHz, 6 clocks @ 400MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 15 clocks @ 333MHz, 18 clocks @ 400MHz
Min TRC : 20 clocks @ 333MHz, 24 clocks @ 400MHz

EPP Profile #1 : Abbreviated Performance
Voltage Level : 2V
Address Command Rate : 2T
Cycle Time : 2.5ns @ 400MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) : 5 clocks
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 4 clocks
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 4 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 15 clocks

Information SPD EEPROM (DIMM_B2) :
Manufacturer : OCZ
Part Number : OCZ2N800SR2G
Serial Number : Unspecified
Type : DDR2-SDRAM PC2-6400 (399MHz) - [DDR2-800]
Format : Regular UDIMM (133.35 x 3)
Size : 2048MB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
Module Buffered : No
Module Registered : No
Module SLi Ready (EPP) : Yes
Width : 64-bit
Error Correction Capability (EC... No
Max. Burst Length : 8
Refresh : Reduced (.5x)7.8, Self Refreshµs
Voltage : SSTL 1.8v
Prefetch Buffer : 4-bit
Manufacture : 2000
Supported Frequencies : 333MHz, 400MHz
CAS Latency (tCL) : 4 clocks @ 333MHz, 5 clocks @ 400MHz
RAS to CAS (tRCD) : 5 clocks @ 333MHz, 6 clocks @ 400MHz
RAS Precharge (tRP) : 5 clocks @ 333MHz, 6 clocks @ 400MHz
Cycle Time (tRAS) : 15 clocks @ 333MHz, 18 clocks @ 400MHz
Min TRC : 20 clocks @ 333MHz, 24 clocks @ 400MHz

EPP Profile #1 : Abbreviated Performance

 

[jaquith]

EPP4-4-4-15 1T(CAS-TRCD-TRP-TRAS) @ 2.1 v - http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_6400_sli_ready_edition_dual_channel

Well the {EPP Profile #1} is sort of right; CAS is slow/incorrect and the voltage is off by 0.1v but close enough.

All that above is reiteration of the timings that [shortstuff_mt] suggested before, but I still would correct both the CAS and Voltage; Voltage only if necessary.

 

[wade36]

Hello,

Well guess what it blue screened again,
I will try some different settings,
Man I thought I had it fixed.

 

[jaquith]

In Windows -> run MSCONFIG and select Diagnostic then Enable only Microsoft Services. A BSOD can happen for a lot of reasons. Download and install the latest Drivers @ ASUS.

Next, open the Event Manager as below and look at the 'Critical Errors' - if you'd like post the reasons -- not the entire dump.

 

[wade36]

Critical 6/13/2010 6:22:18 PM DriverFrameworks-UserMode 10110 User-mode Driver problems.

 

[jaquith]

Rather than me retyping -> http://www.ehow.com/how_5175769_remove-microsoft-usermode-driver-framework.html

Uninstall "Windows User Mode Driver Framework"

Q - Did this help => In Windows -> run MSCONFIG and select Diagnostic then Enable only Microsoft Services...

 

[wade36]

The answer to your ? (Did this help) No it did not help

I went to this site and followed the instructions and disabled user mode driver framework
but I was unable to locate and delete the executable file.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5175769_re [...] ework.html

I can't find
Windows User Mode Driver Framework
to unistall.
Where would it be?
Thanks

 

[richarduk]

How you get on with this, have you got it fixed?

I have a simular problem. Ubuntu 64bit and 8gig of ram with a AMD 965 x4 chip and 4 x 2 ddr2 dims rated at 1066. Mine fails to boot unless I under clock the ram to 800. At that point it runs fine when running burnin tests.

With 4 x 1gig dims runs fine too. The only combo that does not work is 4 x 2gig dims @ 1066Mhz, the speed the ram is suposed to be.

I tried boostng the voltage to 1.9 without success, do you think if 2.0v works it will be ok or damage the ram???

Ta.

 

[jaquith]

The answer to your ? (Did this help) No it did not help

Then In Windows -> run MSCONFIG and select Diagnostic only.

I assume that you installed the correct bit drivers OS = 32-bit => Drivers 32-bit or visa versa. If that doesn't fix the problem, then 1. Driver Issue or 2. BIOS Issue.

Okay -- post the 'dump' example: {I will remove this after you post yours}
Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-DriverFrameworks-UserMode
Date: 8/25/2009 1:55:40 PM
Event ID: 10111
Task Category: User-mode Driver problems.
Level: Critical
Keywords:
User: SYSTEM
Computer: Richard-PC
Description:
The device MTP USB Device (location Port_#0001.Hub_#0008) is offline due to a user-mode driver crash. Windows will attempt to restart the device 5 more times. Please contact the device manufacturer for more information about this problem.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-DriverFrameworks-UserMode" Guid="{2E35AAEB-857F-4BEB-A418-2E6C0E54D988}" />
<EventID>10111</EventID>
<Version>1</Version>
<Level>1</Level>
<Task>64</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x2000000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-08-25T17:55:40.435794100Z" />
<EventRecordID>3439</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="120" ThreadID="1152" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>Richard-PC</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
</System>
<UserData>....blah blah

 

[richarduk]

^
you need to start your own thread..

I did, no one answered, as this thread is very similar I though i'll asked if he had fix he's issue. Is that OK with you?

 

[wade36]

Then In Windows -> run MSCONFIG and select Diagnostic only.

I assume that you installed the correct bit drivers OS = 32-bit => Drivers 32-bit or visa versa. If that doesn't fix the problem, then 1. Driver Issue or 2. BIOS Issue.

Okay -- post the 'dump' example: {I will remove this after you post yours}
Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-DriverFrameworks-UserMode
Date: 8/25/2009 1:55:40 PM
Event ID: 10111
Task Category: User-mode Driver problems.
Level: Critical
Keywords:
User: SYSTEM
Computer: Richard-PC
Description:
The device MTP USB Device (location Port_#0001.Hub_#0008) is offline due to a user-mode driver crash. Windows will attempt to restart the device 5 more times. Please contact the device manufacturer for more information about this problem.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-DriverFrameworks-UserMode" Guid="{2E35AAEB-857F-4BEB-A418-2E6C0E54D988}" />
<EventID>10111</EventID>
<Version>1</Version>
<Level>1</Level>
<Task>64</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x2000000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2009-08-25T17:55:40.435794100Z" />
<EventRecordID>3439</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="120" ThreadID="1152" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>Richard-PC</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
</System>
<UserData>....blah blah

Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-DriverFrameworks-UserMode
Date: 6/13/2010 6:22:18 PM
Event ID: 10110
Task Category: User-mode Driver problems.
Level: Critical
Keywords:
User: SYSTEM
Computer: Owner2-PC
Description:
A problem has occurred with one or more user-mode drivers and the hosting process has been terminated. This may temporarily interrupt your ability to access the devices.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-DriverFrameworks-UserMode" Guid="{2e35aaeb-857f-4beb-a418-2e6c0e54d988}" />
<EventID>10110</EventID>
<Version>1</Version>
<Level>1</Level>
<Task>64</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x2000000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2010-06-13T23:22:18.355Z" />
<EventRecordID>62375</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="572" ThreadID="1492" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>Owner2-PC</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
</System>
<UserData>
<UMDFHostProblem lifetime="{C0F0D9DC-8B83-433D-8ACA-B551E7A3F073}" xmlns:auto-ns2="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events" xmlns="http://www.microsoft.com/DriverFrameworks/UserMode/Event">
<Problem code="8" detectedBy="2">
</Problem>
<ExitCode>0</ExitCode>
<Operation code="259">
<Message>0</Message>
<Status>4294967295</Status>
</Operation>
</UMDFHostProblem>
</UserData>
</Event>

 

[wade36]

Hello,




Here's an update I flashed the bios and cleared the cmos and removed a card reader that I just recenly installed so here is the results


Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-DriverFrameworks-UserMode
Date: 6/13/2010 6:22:18 PM
Event ID: 10111
Task Category: User-mode Driver problems.
Level: Critical
Keywords:
User: SYSTEM
Computer: Owner2-PC
Description:
The device Lexar (location (unknown)) is offline due to a user-mode driver crash. Windows will attempt to restart the device 4 more times. Please contact the device manufacturer for more information about this problem.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-DriverFrameworks-UserMode" Guid="{2e35aaeb-857f-4beb-a418-2e6c0e54d988}" />
<EventID>10111</EventID>
<Version>1</Version>
<Level>1</Level>
<Task>64</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x2000000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2010-06-13T23:22:18.355Z" />
<EventRecordID>62376</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="572" ThreadID="1492" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>Owner2-PC</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
</System>
<UserData>
<UmdfDeviceOffline lifetime="{C0F0D9DC-8B83-433D-8ACA-B551E7A3F073}" xmlns:auto-ns2="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events" xmlns="http://www.microsoft.com/DriverFrameworks/UserMode/Event">
<DeviceInfo>
<FriendlyName>Lexar</FriendlyName>
<Location>(unknown)</Location>
<InstanceId>WPDBUSENUMROOT\UMB\2&amp;37C186B&amp;0&amp;STORAGE#VOLUME#1&amp;19F7E59C&amp;0&amp;_??_USBSTOR#DISK&amp;VEN_LEXAR&amp;PROD_JD_SECURE_II_+&amp;REV_1100#5DD2BC03140756190608&amp;0#</InstanceId>
</DeviceInfo>
<RestartCount>4</RestartCount>
</UmdfDeviceOffline>
</UserData>
</Event>

 

[jaquith]

Go through you device manager and right click Update driver on the device listed above or download the updated drivers at the OEM site.

 

[richarduk]

Hi, I have a AM2+ system with 8 gig that like yours does not like running the ram at it's full speed when all slots are populated.

Anyway I did a bit of routing about on the Crucial website as this is the brand of my memory and it seems this is not an uncommon problem. A Crucial engineer replied to one post saying that whilst some boards support 1066 they can not do so when all dims are populated. And this seems to be what I am seeing with my system.

Maybe you've been hit with a similar issue. Bit of a poor show on the motherboard manufactures if this is true.

 

[wade36]

Hello,

Thanks for all your help,and support on this problem.

Even though I have not found a solution to this problem yet.

As of now, I am just gonna take a break from this

problem and just chill out for a while.

So for now I wish all of you, on this day, a very

MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY HOLIDAYS

& A HAPPY NEW YEAR !! To All


Your Knowledge is Appreciated.