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March 31, 2010 6:38:43 AM

this is my beast cost 3k all up
CPU : i7 930 @4.2ghz
Memory : Corsair 12GB Dominator DDR3 (1600MHz)
solid state drive: Corsair Reactor 60GB SSD
Power Supply : Corsair 1200watt Truepower
CPU cooling : Corsair H50 High-performance CPU Cooler
RAM Cooling : Corsair DOMINATOR Airflow Fan for Triple Kit DDR3
Hard Drive : 5.5TB of WD&SG SATA II
Graphics Card : 2x ATI HD5770 XXX-Edition in crossfire
Motherboard : Gigabyte UD7 Motherboard
Optical Drive : Pioneer 12 x Bluray RW
Operating System : Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Case : Antec 902 with UV lightz
Tv tuner : Leadtek Digital TV tuner
Keyboard/mouse : Logitech DiNovo Cordless Media Bluetooth Desktop
Cardreader : OEM black cardreader
Monitor : Sanyo 42" 1080 PLASMA
Speaker system : Yamaha 5.1 with kustom built gigantic speakerz

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March 31, 2010 6:42:55 AM

^ Well 3K and just HD 5770s ? Is it a gaming machine ?
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March 31, 2010 6:44:25 AM

yeah gaming/download rig.there awsomely overclocked too!
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March 31, 2010 7:00:54 AM

But still IMO the HD 5770s should have been replaced with atleast HD 5830 or HD 5850 if it is a gaming PC...
You could have saved some money on the mobo, PSU - you wont need 1200W at all(unless you plan to run 2x HD 5970s) and with the saved money got more powerful graphics card...
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March 31, 2010 7:04:24 AM

Best answer selected by tyzaling.
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March 31, 2010 7:07:16 AM

^ Have you completed buildint it or just going to start ?
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March 31, 2010 7:08:35 AM

good answer i see, i had the 1000w orderd but had to replace with that..also i had 3 5770 wich replaced for 3 xxx but had no crossfire ,so replaced with 2 xxx in cross fire nd put cooling on it as the cards were bottle necked by my cpu lol the i7 bottle necked my graphics cards when it was stock but now work to full potential reaches 27137 on 3d mark vantage can play anything on extreme with no bumps at all
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March 31, 2010 7:16:41 AM

^ Hmm...but really when you go even more extreme - Eyefinity, then you would notice that the HD 5770s will have a hard time keeping upto that resolution...
Just cutting where you had gone overboard would have easily got you HD 5850s IMO...
It is still a good build but I wont say it is the best for that money though - dont take me wrong...
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March 31, 2010 7:17:35 AM

to witch mobo tho? i bought the ud7 for the esata and usb 3.0 for future use as im a harddrive fiend!
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March 31, 2010 7:22:32 AM

2 x 5770 in crossfire eat a 5850
and then overclocked they eat a 5970
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March 31, 2010 7:28:49 AM

Well I was talking about 2x HD 5850s...
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March 31, 2010 7:46:07 AM

yeah i seeur point clearly now.100% effort
thanx for the super fast expert help gkay
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March 31, 2010 7:48:33 AM

in the next while i might think bout those sexy 5970's or would u suggest another higher end gpu
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March 31, 2010 7:59:52 AM

The reason i chose the UD7 board for this build is because it was the only board with '333' that supported 3 way crossfire from my supplier.

The XFX 5770 xxx edition have eyefinity. They are factory over-clocked. The original plan was to have 3 x 5770xxx in 3-way crossfire, but the supplier stuffed up, they assured me that these cards were 3 way compatible and they weren't .

Also the price difference between the 1000w and 1200w corsair truepower is only about $10inc so i'm not sure about what money you were talking about saving. Even if i had downgraded this power supply and the board to a UD5 or UD3 board that didn't support the 3 way crossfire it would not have been enough money for me to upgrade his cards to 5850's as they were almost double the price per unit of the 5770 xxx edition that i got on special.
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March 31, 2010 8:47:51 AM

^ I guess you had built that PC for the OP...
Well even the UD5 and UD3R can run 3 way crossfire...not sure from where you got the info only the UD7 does that...
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/gigabyte_ga_x58...

And as for the PSU, even an 850W PSU can run 3x HD 5770s without any issues...And those are cheaper by atleast $100...
And also it is generally advisable not to go beyond 2 cards either in SLI/ Crossfire because of driver and scalability issues and also less cards mean less heat and power...
So for that money, 2x HD 5850s would have been a better option for sure...And the performance would be very good...
And I can see that you are not this criticism in a good way...
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March 31, 2010 11:42:13 PM

850PSU unit running mobo, 4 x 3.5" HDD's, 1 x SSD, 3 x 5770, H50 Cooling, Bluray burner, UV lights, fans etc??

And paying double for each card for the sake of another 4,000 3D mark points?? That doesn't really sound like value for money to me.

It's not that i don't take critisism well, it's just that i made all these considerations when building the system on the budget given and discounted them. I know people with UD3 boards and they are not as stable as the extreme boards under heavy overclock. I got his UD7 up to 4.18Ghz stable under stress at 45 degrees.

It makes alot more sense to me to give him a high-end base for his system and compromise on the parts that he is likely to upgrade in future anyways (And that are easily upgradable). We are talking about someone who is an xbox gamer and has never had a gaming PC. So honestly a 3D mark Vantage score of 27,194 for his first system is pretty bloody good for what he paid.
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April 1, 2010 12:37:58 AM

You might want to pick up an Antec spot cooler for your northbridge. It's going to get exceptionally hot with you running that H50.

Nice rig, not the choices I would have made across the board but still a solid build.
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April 1, 2010 3:51:52 AM

@bornofsin how did you check how much power you need ?
check the power requirements once here...With say i7 at your specified speeds - 4.18GHz + 4HDDs + 2 DVDs + 2x HD 5850s + 5 LED 120MM fans + An additional PCIe x4 card(say sound card or any other add-on card) + Fan controller + Front bay card reader with 25% capacitor aging, gives a total of about ~750W -> Peak - which is very much not possible to achieve even when playing games @ max settings...So an 850W PSU has enough headroom for that setup...
http://www.antec.outervision.com/PSUEngine

And going above 3.66GHz-3.8GHz for the i7 doesnt have much advantages...only increases the power consumption drastically...And what is the point of just getting some high score on a benchmark ??? The daily usage is what matter IMO...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclock-core-i7,2...

And also just $10 more than the 850TX, you can get the 950TX...
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April 1, 2010 4:02:20 AM

"2 x 5770 in crossfire eat a 5850 and then overclocked they eat a 5970"

No way. 1 5870 > 5770. A 5970 will destroy 2 OC'd 5770's.....
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April 1, 2010 4:03:56 AM

You are telling me i should have gotten a shitty UD3 board so he could get graphics card with minimal performance increase that are twice the price? Save $100, then Spend $300 more?!?!?

And then tell me i should have purchased a power supply that was $35ex cheaper than the one i got to save money? And that going to 4.18Ghz doesn't have much advantage yet 3,000 points on a video card does? I mean this in the nicest way possible but, you're an idiot.

There is a saying that goes 'Don't argue with idiots, they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.'

So on that note: I'm done with this conversation.
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April 1, 2010 4:16:05 AM

goatsword said:
"2 x 5770 in crossfire eat a 5850 and then overclocked they eat a 5970"

No way. 1 5870 > 5770. A 5970 will destroy 2 OC'd 5770's.....


He was thinking they were talking about a single 5850 vs 2 x 5770 ... and with the system overclocked the 2 x 5770 did perform better than a 5970 in the same 'non o/c' system .. just!! .. but the 5970 in the same o/c system would win you are right.
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April 1, 2010 4:26:36 AM

^^ Haha...frankly I was thinking the same...So even the authors here at TOMs are Idiots who have said that going above 3.66GHz is not worth it...lolz...

No point saying you anything when you dont want to take it...
And I was talking about including 2x HD 5850s FYI...

I7 930
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
UD5 - Even UD3R is capable of 4GHz...And what is the use of going extreme ?? breaking record ? is that OP's main aim or just to play games at highest possible settings ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 CAS7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2x XFX HD 5850s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - 64GB Kingston with TRIM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD - 1TB Samsung F3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CASE - 902
PSU - Hmm...still you think 850W is not enough...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...
CPU Cooler - H50

The above setup with the i7 at even 3.8GHz will beat the original setup by a good margin and will still be cheaper...
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April 1, 2010 4:27:52 AM

And I dint even include combos, which will make the build even more cheaper...
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April 1, 2010 4:33:44 AM

Samsung HDDs!!

LOL

You just proved to me that you dont actually work with computers on a daily basis cause otherwise you'd never use samsung drives.

Anyone who uses Samsung HDD's should not be allowed near a computer.

Now shhhh .. You're lowering my IQ.

Thanks.
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April 1, 2010 4:44:47 AM

bornofsin said:
Samsung HDDs!!

LOL

You just proved to me that you dont actually work with computers on a daily basis cause otherwise you'd never use samsung drives.

Anyone who uses Samsung HDD's should not be allowed near a computer.

Now shhhh .. You're lowering my IQ.

Thanks.

^ Haha I think I am lowering my IQ here trying to make you understand...actually I dont have to say anything to you but to the OP who was the one who spent this much money...
Check some reviews of those F3s...
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2009/10/06/sam...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2tb-hdd-7200,2430.h...

You should brush up your knowledge...And you are making an idiot out of yourself by posting like this....
A guy with good common sense and understandability would have by now got what am trying to say...
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April 1, 2010 5:00:50 AM

From what I know there are plenty of benchmarks that show Samsung F3 HDDs are very good so I don't get why you're laughing
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April 1, 2010 5:15:31 AM

tserich said:
From what I know there are plenty of benchmarks that show Samsung F3 HDDs are very good so I don't get why you're laughing



He is referring to the reliability of old samsung drives which was not that great. Samsung drives now are perfectly fine and perform very well.
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April 1, 2010 9:56:58 AM

Samsung drives are RUBBISH!! Dude i work for a computer sub-distributor and i can tell you now that we have NEVER had as many warranty returns EVER for HDD's as when we made the mistake of using Samsung drives in our systems.

You might get lucky and have your one samsung piece of *** work for you. But we were getting a return rate of 6/10!!!

6/10 HDD's returned! Samsung drives are AWFUL!And i'm only talking about just over a month ago! Actually i'll go further than that and say all Samsung products are awful .. Innov8 phone i paid $1,000 for - Broke, the 62" Samsung DLP i purchased - Still being repaired by Samsung. Samsung 50" LCD - Near death. Samsung 4 horsepower aircon in my industrial shed - Being repaired under warranty.

I don't know about in the USA, they may be good over there, but in Australia Samsung are RUBBISH. By the way the system is built in Australian dollars, not US dollars. Our parts are a fair chunk more expensive here than in the USA. Take into consideration that this system was built with distributor pricing and that it would retail for well over 5k here.

Dell apparently are great computers in the USA but over here they are rubbish, so maybe your Samsung drives ARE good. But in Australia you don't want to buy ANY brand of HDD except Seagate.

**PS i don't need to read reviews on anything. We do near on 5 million a year worth of system builds, i get to see how things perform first hand.**

/endrant
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April 1, 2010 9:28:26 PM

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Actually i'll go further than that and say all Samsung products are awful


Samsung is the number one provider of OEM screens for top-end LCDs such as Dell, HP, and premium brands like Lacie and Eizo.

Let us not forget S-LCD which is a joint Sony/Samsung venture that provides highend consumer screens for manufacturers like, Sony, Samsung, Hitachi and Mitsubishi.

While I cannot speak of Samsung's reliability in HDDs, to say all their products are awful is quite a broad statement that obviously holds little truth.
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