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March 31, 2010 10:12:45 PM

Okay, first off, I would like to state that I already had a thread with many replies, thank you EVERYONE! I just wanted to make this thread as I have been going down on parts. Any help is really appreciated it!
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APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Hopefully in some time in April.
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, Internet, Movies, etc.
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Need all of them actually.
PREFERRED WEBSITE: Amazon ( Free shipping and combines all items together so will get a lot at once. )
PARTS PREFERENCES: Best price/performance.
OVERCLOCKING: Maybe, if I learn how. It would be 2.8GHz to 3.0GHz
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: MAYBE crossfire if it is NEEDED.
MONITOR RESOLUTION: Looking for a Monitor as well.
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Looking for a computer that will last years, have an upgrade path, etc. The lower the price the happier I will be. =D
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CPU: i7-930 2.8GHz
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Processor-2-80GHz-LGA1366-B...
Graphics Card: Either a Single Radeon 5870/5970
http://www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-Express-Graphics-HD597...
http://www.amazon.com/XFX-RADEON-5870-Express-HD587AZNF...
http://www.amazon.com/Visiontek-Radeon-HD5870-Express-9...
http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Radeon-HD5870-GDDR5-5870P...
http://www.amazon.com/RADEON-5870-DDR5-Graphics-HD587XZ...
Hard Drive:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-H...
Solid State Drive:
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Value-Retail-Package-SSDSA2...
DVD/Blue Ray:
http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-Blu-ray-Writer-WH0...
Ram: 6Gb ( 3 x 2GB )
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias...
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-TR3X6G1600C8-PC3-12800-16...
http://www.amazon.com/Mushkin-Enhanced-Blackline-Frostb...
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-TR3X6G1600C7D-Dominator-P...
Case:
http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Twelve-Hundred-Drive-2xUSB/...
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-High-Tower-Black/dp...
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Aluminum-Tower-Blac...
http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-ARMOR-VH6000BWS-Windo...
http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Element-Gaming-TouchC...
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Cosmos-Tower-Silver...
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Cosmos-Black-RC-110...
http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Spedo-VI9001N2Z-Gamin...
Motherboard:
http://www.amazon.com/P6X58D-Premium-LGA1366-MAX-24GB-3...
Power Supply:
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CMPSU-850TX-850-Watt-Cert...
CPU Cooler:
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-B10-212P-G1-Univ...
Thermal Compound:
http://www.amazon.com/Ocztfrztc-Extreme-Thermal-Conduct...
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit / OEM
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-7-Home-Premium/...
Mouse:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Performance-Optical-Gami...
Keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Comfort-Curve-Keyboard-...
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-000021-Access-Keyboa...
Speakers:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-S220-Speaker-System-Blac...
Monitor:
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VH236HL-P-23-Inch-Widescreen...
http://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-VA2223wm-22-Inch-16-Mon...
http://www.amazon.com/HP-2009M-20-Inch-LCD-Monitor/dp/B...

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March 31, 2010 10:31:24 PM

I dont think you need any more advice. You need to sit down and pick a case, choose a couple of the other parts and order. Just check newegg.com as they normally beat amazons prices and if you have a local microcenter or even frys you might save.
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March 31, 2010 10:48:18 PM

dndhatcher,

Thank you very much for posting. I am indeed having a hard time choosing. There is things like Latency on the Ram. Is lower better or is higher better? Does it really matter? Plus, I am not sure if the cases I listed will be good for a first timer build. Like cable management. Plus, will it fit the 5870 or 5970, things like that.

Then the monitor. Which one is best, do I need it in 1080p, HD, etc. Which brand Graphics card?
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March 31, 2010 11:26:22 PM

As a first time builder you cant make a truly informed decision because you havent done it before. You also wont understand if some of the choices you made are good or bad because you have no other experience to compare it to. For the first build you should stay fairly mainstream and price conscious so if you do run into trouble you can get help and have budget to fix things.

Probably a good idea to stick to mid- towers to avoid needing power cable extensions.
Coolermaster HAF 922 will fit any graphics card and is a bit smaller/cheaper than the 932.

1920x1080 and 22-24 inch is a good monitor size.

If gaming is the primary function you really need to choose the graphics card. A 5870 or 5850 is a solid, safe choice depending on your budget.

There is no need to go i7 for gaming. An i5 750 will game as fast as anything at a lower price.

Your specs are very vague. You can make a decent gaming system for under $800 or you can make an overpowered one with all the latest for $2000. What are you looking for?
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March 31, 2010 11:39:35 PM

dndhatcher,

I was considering the HAF 922, I just thought a Full tower would last longer and have upgrade ability. Plus, the room would help me so much. I am not sure which cable extensions I would need anyhow. What do you personally think of the Cooler Master ATCS 840? I mean, I might try to add the three optional 120mm fans.

As for price range. I truly have no idea. 1500-2000 would be fine with me. Cheaper would be better. I think I will stick with the 5870 and a 22"-23" monitor. Does all the ones I listed actually support HD? Although not sure if I will HD.

I am indeed planning on gaming. Just want the PC to last. So that I do not have to pay for a new computer in a year or two. The one I am on right now, I think I have had close to 8-10 years.

About the cables needed. What exactly would I need? For example, the extra 120mm Fan's:
http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Go-27078-3-pin-Pass-Throug...

What about Sata Hard Drive cables? Plus, I am worried the Power Supply thing will not reach the motherboard. I suppose you could say I am pretty freaked out.
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April 1, 2010 8:51:40 PM

1080 = HD

Keep it simple. Forget non-essentials like extra fans until you know you need them.

Bigger is not necessarily better. I find my Antec 300 is easier to work cabling in than my 900, partly due to cable length issues. A smaller box lets you route cables much better.

The HAF 922 is large for a mid tower, and larger (in the important dimensions) than some cases classified as full towers. Full towers are taller, which leaves more room in a direction that does you no good (between the motherboard and PSU) and just requires longer power cables with little benefit. Depth for handling longer graphics cards and width for larger CPU coolers is far more important and the 922 has both of those like a full tower.

As a first time build a basic and inexpensive but flexible system that leave you budget for expanding later makes the most sense.

If gaming is your main function then an i5 750 and a p55 motherboard will server you as well for less money.

Looking at the builds by usage sticky at this point might be give you some better ideas.
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April 1, 2010 9:12:23 PM

OP, I recently built a computer similar to what you are looking at with the exact same goals in mind.

i7 930
p6x58D Premium mb
XFX 5850 XXX edition
1 TB WD black 7200rpm (I'll probably upgrade at some point)
Corsair 750TX psu
OCZ DDR3 1600mhz (the gold ones)
Antec 300

I LOVE my computer. And it feels good knowing you have a top of the line rig even if you don't need it. A lot of people told me similar advice to go with an i5. Personally, I know I would have regretted doing so cause I would be thinking about what "could have been". Get what I got. Good stuff. Don't compromise on anything (I compromised on antec 300 vs 900 which I don't feel is a compromise at all)
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April 1, 2010 9:14:36 PM

Oh, and I got a 23.6" Asus VH242H Black monitor (Freakin gorgeous)

And I have the Antec 300 Illusion which is a little bit different from the normal 300 I think.
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April 1, 2010 9:58:31 PM

gangstap said:
And I have the Antec 300 Illusion which is a little bit different from the normal 300 I think.
The illusion comes with two front 120mm blue LED fans installed. Generally its close in price to the 300 black and thus is a better deal.
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