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February 16, 2013 4:41:22 PM

Hello. Ive used oc genie 2 to overclock my i5-3570k to 4.3 ghz with everything on auto but the multiplier (43). In cpu-z it shows the core voltage between .98 and 1.00. Ive tried to go to 4.4 but my pc wont boot. Ive used auto voltage and also tried changing voltage to 1.15. Still no boot and it will have to be restarted several times to get it to revert to default bios clock settings. Any ideas? Am i doing something wrong? Ive read up on everything but it is confusing and i figured leaving everything on auto would automatically adjust for the multiplier. The core temps dont go over 55C on the core temp program while using prime 95.
February 16, 2013 4:50:20 PM

Restart Over again & set Multiplier at 4.2ghz on Auto if you want or Change it to 4.3ghz at 1.250v & up!! Find it Stable 1.15v aint enough volts to run 4.3ghz!!! So set it at 4.2ghz on Auto or change it to 1.250v that what I needed for my Cpu I5 3570k!!!

Keep In Mind Ivy Bridge throttles at 105 C. If you want to play conservative and be safe, I'd advise keeping it under 90c!!! Also if you're using Air I wouldnt go past 1.35v you will need Water Cooling going past 1.35v depends on your Temps!!
February 16, 2013 5:15:10 PM

So whats the avg needed voltage for 4.4? 1.275? I assume with my zalman air cooler 4.4 might be about the highest i should go to be perfectly safe?
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February 16, 2013 7:02:49 PM

Someone in another overclock post said to keep lowering the voltage until it wont boot, then bump it up one notch that way you dont get to much volts and unneccesary heat. Is this correct? I had the voltage at 1.225 and the core clock at 4.4 ghz and prime 95 had no errors and core temp read cored from 63 to 71C max. but then in guild wars it froze and said pc ran into a problem. So i bumped it to 1.230. Maybe its the graphics cards clock that had the error tho? I have a sapphire vapor-x 3gb 7970 set at 1200 clock and 1700 vram and +20% power and the vddc is at 1256 but i didnt change that setting.
February 16, 2013 8:45:35 PM

4.4ghz I would Try 1.3v & Check for Stable with Prime95 see what Temps you get keep it under 90c kkk Max for cpu is 105c so i would keep it under 90c!!! If you're stable at 1.3v & you do some Game play & everything works Then Good :) ) Then Restart & remember what Voltage u had 1.3v so knocked off 5 points to make it 1.295v & run prime95 see if that stable!! always wanna make sure you're not using extra power on your cpu when it doesnt need it!!
February 16, 2013 8:47:41 PM

I hit 4.4ghz at 1.285 or 1.290 cant remember & I was 24/7 stable!! I'm at 4.8ghz with my Cpu I5 3570k :) ) with Voltage of 1.42v Max Temps I get is 88c

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February 17, 2013 12:34:43 AM

My 3570 is at 4.4 ghz and only using 1.23v and it could go lower i just was tired of rebooting. Temps dont get over 70C. One went 76C but they avg 70. No errors on prime 95. Maybe i should try for 4.5 ghz? I know my cpu will never get to prime 95 temps with just games.
February 17, 2013 1:10:26 AM

Nice so you got 4.4ghz at 1.23v?? if so Nice how long did you test for & did you do any Gaming?? & By the Way Yes you can Go Higher Keep it Under 90c :) ..... When you're Testing & everything seems Stable & Temps are Good & when you're done Testing & you Go into Gaming & if your Game Crash you're not Stable etc.
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February 17, 2013 1:17:10 AM

How long did you test for stability using prime95? Your games crash probably because your GPU overclocked is not stable.
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February 17, 2013 1:17:50 AM

Most people get 4.5 with 1.3125 and 4.6 with 1.325 (i got 1.35V for 4.83 with my I7 3770k but it need a 46 ratio as 48 X100 require 1.4+V to boot and heat too much...)

I would head to 4.6 if you have a mid range CPU cooler like a cooler master hyper 212 or somthing like that... Keep temps below 90 Celsius and you'll never have trouble with that ;) 
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February 17, 2013 1:24:09 AM

ltbenjamin said:
Someone in another overclock post said to keep lowering the voltage until it wont boot, then bump it up one notch that way you dont get to much volts and unneccesary heat. Is this correct?


It's true but you still have to test for stability. Run prime95 blend test with round off checking enabled for at least 12 hours.
February 17, 2013 7:08:01 AM

EzioAs said:
How long did you test for stability using prime95? Your games crash probably because your GPU overclocked is not stable.



If his Game Crashes he is not Stable Etc. this has nothing to do with his card when he is trying to oc his cpu!! I mean he can take out his card & game will freeze or w/e that because he aint 24/7 stable!!
February 17, 2013 7:12:35 AM

ltbenjamin said:
Someone in another overclock post said to keep lowering the voltage until it wont boot, then bump it up one notch that way you dont get to much volts and unneccesary heat. Is this correct? I had the voltage at 1.225 and the core clock at 4.4 ghz and prime 95 had no errors and core temp read cored from 63 to 71C max. but then in guild wars it froze and said pc ran into a problem. So i bumped it to 1.230. Maybe its the graphics cards clock that had the error tho? I have a sapphire vapor-x 3gb 7970 set at 1200 clock and 1700 vram and +20% power and the vddc is at 1256 but i didnt change that setting.



If your Overclock on your Card was FINE before you Overclock your CPU then its not that its your CPU its not 24/7 stable so bump it up 5 points & go into Gaming & you will notice & if Nothing Crashes your Stable
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February 17, 2013 7:16:34 AM

NightHawk87 said:
If his Game Crashes he is not Stable Etc. this has nothing to do with his card when he is trying to oc his cpu!! I mean he can take out his card & game will freeze or w/e that because he aint 24/7 stable!!


I should've commented more clear but I asked his stability testing with prime95 for the CPU since he didn't clarify how long it ran.

His 7970 is running at 1200MHz, clearly showing that the card is overclocked and he didn't clarify whether this was stable or not. Just because it could run certain games without crashing after a few hours doesn't mean it's stable. He'll need to test it with some stress programs like Furmark, or Kombustor or OCCT.

So, his game crashing could be either a result of unstable CPU or GPU overclocked or both.
February 17, 2013 7:16:54 AM

EzioAs said:
It's true but you still have to test for stability. Run prime95 blend test with round off checking enabled for at least 12 hours.


He only needs to Test on Prime95 or w/e Program he uses to Test his Cpu for 6hrs 12hrs is just a Waste :pfff:  lol
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February 17, 2013 7:20:23 AM

NightHawk87 said:
He only needs to Test on Prime95 or w/e Program he uses to Test his Cpu for 6hrs 12hrs is just a Waste :pfff:  lol


I disagree (granted I'm more old fashioned), I would still run it for 12 hours. There are other people who even run it for 24 hours too, you know.
February 17, 2013 7:24:47 AM

EzioAs said:
I should've commented more clear but I asked his stability testing with prime95 for the CPU since he didn't clarify how long it ran.

His 7970 is running at 1200MHz, clearly showing that the card is overclocked and he didn't clarify whether this was stable or not.

So, his game crashing could be either a result of unstable CPU or GPU overclocked or both.



Ya we just gotta wait & hear how long he been running that CPU Testing for & I dought its his Card since he didnt have any Problems before when he just got Into Overclocking his CPU!! If your Game Crashes you're not 24/7 Stable!! Bump your Voltage up 5 points!!! If it was your Card does your Settings on your Overclock go back to Default when it Crashes or does it say Game stop Running?? If game stop Responding you're not Stable on CPU!!
February 17, 2013 7:28:14 AM

EzioAs said:
I disagree (granted I'm more old fashioned), I would still run it for 12 hours. There are other people who even run it for 24 hours too, you know.



ROFL You're more OLD Fashioned w/e that Means there buddy & 12hrs & 24hrs people are Insane haha just a Waste of Time!!! 6hrs is Good Enough & if nothing Crashes your 24/7 Stable Etc.
February 17, 2013 9:14:57 AM

Hi guys. I updated drivers and now the game doesnt crash. I only tested prime 95 for about an hr. 24hrs! Aint nobody got time for dat! I will try 4.5 today and 6 hrs of prime95 and post back.
February 17, 2013 9:46:03 AM

ltbenjamin said:
Hi guys. I updated drivers and now the game doesnt crash. I only tested prime 95 for about an hr. 24hrs! Aint nobody got time for dat! I will try 4.5 today and 6 hrs of prime95 and post back.


Sweet Deal man what is your Overclock 4.4ghz?? What is your Results?? & you're gonna try 4.5ghz Nice & ya just do bout 6hrs of Stress Testing 12hrs to 24hrs that just Insane no Need to do anything like that waste of time & if you was really that smart on Overclocking 6hrs plenty enough!! Always Remember if anything Crashes not Stable :D 
February 17, 2013 9:53:14 AM

When Gaming Test BattleField 3 if you have it that Max out your Cpu & it will let you know if your Cpu is 24/7 Stable ;)  do bout 7hrs of Gaming on all your Games & if its stable bump your voltage +5 & you're good to go & watch your Temps Use Real Temp to Monitor all time! Let me know your Results
February 17, 2013 10:03:22 AM

Watch out if you Use Intel Burn Test that will Max the Temps out like Crazy prob over 90c+ so just letting you know! when using Prime95 or Aida64 you will get less Temps cause Intel Burn Test Maxes Everything!!
February 17, 2013 10:34:16 AM

Should i use intelburn? How long do i use that for? If prime 95 temps are more than games will make your cpu, then why would i need intel burn? I probably could get 4.6 ghz and stay under 90C but i dont wanna push my cpu that hard. 4.5ghz is a pretty good boost from 3.4. I saw a bench that showed 4.5 gained 5-10 fps and 5ghz gained 10-15fps
February 17, 2013 10:35:10 AM

And i use core temp. Is real temp better?
February 17, 2013 10:56:03 AM

NO Dont use Intel Burn Test & Use Real Temp to Monitor Your Temps!! That better then Core temp in my Experience
February 17, 2013 10:57:57 AM

Just Run Prime95 & Run at w/e Ghz you can get 4.6ghz pretty Nice & 4.5ghz pretty good is that where you're at now?? & Whats your Temps & Voltage at 4.5ghz if that is where you're at??
February 17, 2013 11:00:48 AM

You Dont wanna Use Intel Burn Test use that when you're First bout to Overclock! and when you use it the Temps will be way Higher then wat prime95 gonna be!! & Another thing when you're Using Prime95 or Aida64 stress testing that Max Temps when gaming your temps will be way Lower then what your Max temp was on Prime95
February 17, 2013 11:48:54 AM

I guess my zalman cooler is installed right after all? If it wasnt wouldnt my temps be alot higher than 70c at 4.4ghz? It slides a little on the cpu if i push hard, maybe the thermal paste has glued it on tight by now though. Zalman's (and most everything) instructions were less than specific.
February 17, 2013 11:50:28 AM

Im using the small quiet zalman 9500a i got it for $30. Whenever my rebate gets here anyways. I also used arctic silver thermal paste.
February 17, 2013 11:54:06 AM

oh ya that weird did you install it Correctly?? & are you using Prime95 & did you Test up to couple hrs Stress Testing?? you only got Max of 70c on 4.4ghz??
February 17, 2013 11:57:20 AM

If it wasnt installed all the way Temps would Be Insane prob Blow your Chip Up!!! Yikes dont want that to Happen & Make sure its Installed Correctly & dont wanna move it around when its on Cpu... If that is what you're Getting Max Temps of 4.4ghz then WoW you can Prob go 4.5 or 4.6ghz if Lucky keep it Under 90c
February 17, 2013 11:58:17 AM

I will post tonight when i go from 4.4 to 4.5 or 4.6. Ill test it on prime 95 overnight but ive really been worried about leaving it alone. Thinking it may suddenly jump to 90+ and be there for hours. Will the temps usually go up after the first hour or is that what they usually are the whole time. Ive been using the preset on prime 95 that tests cpu and ram and some fft or whatever. I also did the one that says it tests ur max temps and it didnt go maybe a few degrees higher. Ill get real temp program tonight. Whats the avg max 24/7 overclock for a pc with an aftermarket air cpu cooler?
February 17, 2013 12:05:11 PM

Ight that cool cool & never leave it alone when Stress Testing lol it may overheat & you dont want that to happend!! You can Stress test for bout 2hrs & See what Max Temp you get on Real Temp Monitor Temp Program!!! Get that before you even Stress test cause u gotta have something to Monitor your temps :)  ..... When Using Prime95 use Large In-Place Large FFT the second line!!! Then Stress Test for Couple hrs if its Stable then Bumb it to 4.5ghz or w/e & watch those Temps!!
February 17, 2013 12:08:53 PM

Also one of my front intake fans that snaps out of the front of the case and is powered with contacts came d.o.a. so they shipped me a new one. When i get that maybe it will help with temps. Also i believe my bottom fan is going the wrong way i will flip it over tonight. Instead of bringin in cool air from underneath its blowing air out the bottom lol. Didnt realize it till earlier. And im at 4.4 ghz and 2.23v with everything else on auto with the oc genie 2. Temps for one hour on prime95 avg 70C but one core went up to 76C. I will try 4.5 or 4.6 tonight and use real temps and prime 95 overnight. Also will adjust fans and leave zalman on high(it has a manual knob to adjust speed). Prolly will use around 1.29v for 4.5 ghz
February 17, 2013 12:13:30 PM

Holy Smoke 2.23 Vcore???? if so wow that a no no never wanna go past 1.4v unless u have really good Water COoling cause on Air u prob get lucky depends that why i'm trying to figure out help you ;)  So where you at with 4.4ghz 2.23v or 1.29v with 4.5ghz??
February 17, 2013 12:32:44 PM

Sorry i meant 1.23v
February 17, 2013 12:44:13 PM

Im at 4.4 and 1.23v with prime 95 for an hour getting 70c with one core that went to 76c but the other cores didnt go over 70C
February 17, 2013 12:52:23 PM

oh ok rofl 1.23v that awesome & your Temps are Good as well & Nice Rig man ya you def can go Higher on your Ghz :) ) Also Budd I gotta mention to you!!!

On my Cpu I5 3570k I took it apart Delidded it when I took it apart the Thermal Paste that was on it My God it was So Bad & I clean it up & everything & put New Thermal Paste on it Really Good Stuff & Temps Knocked down 30c :) ) To learn how to do it Check out Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXs0I5kuoX4
February 17, 2013 1:00:33 PM

Interesting, so you delid it and then redo the paste and relid it? Seems good but also seems like u might could mess it up. I heard intel put crappy paste in ivy bridge to lower the performance gap between ivy and sandy because they still had alot of sandys left to sell. Those dogs. I dont think i will do that though i would probably break it.
February 17, 2013 1:08:31 PM

I think i will not delid, or buy watercooling. Seems like i got a good chip to oc so i will probably be happy with the performance at 4.5 or 4.6ghz without spendin more money or time on building. Lol my wifes already like get off of that computer its all u do! Lol and shes also like why arent u playing ur game(because ive been watching temps to overclock) lol
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February 17, 2013 1:11:24 PM

AS5 is garbage
February 17, 2013 1:29:40 PM

Lol na I didnt mess it up Works just fine for 3 months & it knocked my Temps down 30c :) ) & that why i'm at 4.8ghz with my Overclock suppose to get my New stuff tommorow imma try reach over 5ghz on this chip see whats sup!! its awesome & ya Intel did put shitty paste on it & it was very bad when I took it apart!!
February 17, 2013 1:32:45 PM

ltbenjamin said:
I think i will not delid, or buy watercooling. Seems like i got a good chip to oc so i will probably be happy with the performance at 4.5 or 4.6ghz without spendin more money or time on building. Lol my wifes already like get off of that computer its all u do! Lol and shes also like why arent u playing ur game(because ive been watching temps to overclock) lol



lol ya 4.5ghz or 4.6ghz that plenty enough man that fast better then 3.4ghz right hehe
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February 17, 2013 2:57:32 PM

NightHawk87 said:
ROFL You're more OLD Fashioned w/e that Means there buddy & 12hrs & 24hrs people are Insane haha just a Waste of Time!!! 6hrs is Good Enough & if nothing Crashes your 24/7 Stable Etc.



sorry gonna have to disagree with ya. i ran prime 95 for 8 hrs one occasion, then again for 9hrs. the first time everything went ok, the second time i got a core error about 8 hours into it. its a math calculation, it needs to run through them all to find any possible errors. a short test is fine to check instant stability. a full test is needed to make sure everything is really ok.
February 17, 2013 3:38:53 PM

^^ Ya well then Bump your Voltage then +5 then you should be Stable 24/7 etc. if it worked the first time then idk why second time it didnt work unless something else wentt wrong lol? you got same Cpu as what we have?
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February 17, 2013 3:41:10 PM

yeah same cpu. Im running fine now. just stating you need to run the test for longer the an hour! ;) 

4.7ghz, 1.296v, 212 evo
February 17, 2013 3:46:32 PM

^^ Cool dude ya this guy already knows what to do so just waiting to hear Results on how he did on his Overclock :)  I'm at 4.8ghz with Vcore of 1.42v
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