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The 9800 is better, even with half the Vram, as the 9600gt isn't powerful enough to even use it's 1gb. The extra ram is a marketting gimmick to charge 10-30 dollars more for just a buck or two of extra materials. IMO, no card below a 4850/250gts needs more than 512mb of memory.

The only drawback to the 9800gt is that it will use more power. How much more I am not sure of, but it will suck more juice than a 9600gt. If PSU power is a concern then the 9600gt may be a better choice.

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JofaMang said:
The 9800 is better, even with half the Vram, as the 9600gt isn't powerful enough to even use it's 1gb. The extra ram is a marketting gimmick to charge 10-30 dollars more for just a buck or two of extra materials. IMO, no card below a 4850/250gts needs more than 512mb of memory.

The only drawback to the 9800gt is that it will use more power. How much more I am not sure of, but it will suck more juice than a 9600gt. If PSU power is a concern then the 9600gt may be a better choice.

@Okini
People generally want some meat with their potatoes. Just saying so without reason makes you look even more like the spammer/post-padder that you are.


+1 too all statements. I can't believe okini got Veteran rank in just 3 months...I guess 3 word posts can really boost up your experience /sarcasm
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9400gt makes gamers sad. A 9800GT, if you are willing to deal with increasingly lower games settings over time as new titles emerge, will probably power a gaming PC for at least a year or more. It depends on the type of games you play, and how stressfull new games are going to be on older hardware.
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A typical 9800gt will be good for at least 2 to 3 years as for the vram it can use but if it is only fps you are looking at then no card out there is going to be good enough. To me it is eye candy that counts so long fps is in the 20+ plus range. My 9800gt 1gb editions hold up VERY well in most of my games compared to my 8800gtx.

JofaMang said:
Not GTAIV or Crysis, but the rest would probably at least be playable on medium-high. Well, I don't know about ACII.

Cannot play Gta 4? What the hell of a graphic card should be there for playing GTA 4 at high settings...........

I heard 8600 GT can be used for playing GTA 4 at high settings............My friend uses 8600 Gt...........

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newzealend said:
Cannot play Gta 4? What the hell of a graphic card should be there for playing GTA 4 at high settings...........

I heard 8600 GT can be used for playing GTA 4 at high settings............My friend uses 8600 Gt...........


A 8600GT might be able to play it at high settings at 800x600 resolution or something silly like that. (Not even worth playing it like that.)

GTA 4 is a game that, if I'm thinking correctly, is fairly taxing on a card and pc due to all the objects in the game. If you have one GB of ram in your
computer, I doubt you can play any of those games at high settings with respectable frame rates regardless of your video card.

All of your system specs would really help if it's worth getting a new card or a new rig altogether. (At the very least, some upgrades to it.) Please post your power supply brand and max wattage output, CPU and speed, and motherboard. This information + the Tom's communities' advice may save you a lot of frustration after you buy a card that your system can't keep up with.

Edit: What resolution do you plan on playing on?

Manicslayer said:
A 8600GT might be able to play it at high settings at 800x600 resolution or something silly like that. (Not even worth playing it like that.)

GTA 4 is a game that, if I'm thinking correctly, is fairly taxing on a card and pc due to all the objects in the game. If you have one GB of ram in your
computer, I doubt you can play any of those games at high settings with respectable frame rates regardless of your video card.

All of your system specs would really help if it's worth getting a new card or a new rig altogether. (At the very least, some upgrades to it.) Please post your power supply brand and max wattage output, CPU and speed, and motherboard. This information + the Tom's communities' advice may save you a lot of frustration after you buy a card that your system can't keep up with.

Edit: What resolution do you plan on playing on?

i prefer to play it in 1024 X 768 resolution........

Biostar is my botherboard

CPU is Core 2 Duo @ 2.20Ghz

Currently installed Graphics card is 7200GS/7300 Se(Most horrible Graphics card ever :cry:  :cry:  )

Dont know the power supply brand and Max voltage output :D 

Okay, that is quite helpful. :)  I could play Crysis on my old 9600GT on all high settings at 1024x when I RMA'd my new card. The rest of my system is very new, but it's the video card that gets pummeled the most.

MAKE SURE your PCI slot is PCI Express 2.0. If it's just PCI-E 1.0, then you won't be able to use either card you've listed.

I would honestly get one more GB of ram as well because 1GB will hinder your gaming severely. (Get the same brand, mhz, and timings.)
I assume you're using Windows XP or Linux. If that's the case, 2GB should do just fine.

After that, check your power supply by simply removing the side of your case and taking a gander at it. PSU's generally have a label on them with important information such as peak wattage (Amps on the 12v rail is also very important).

Once you get this information, check to see if the cards you want meet the minimum power requirements. (400W on 9800GT for example.)

If you can support it, 9800GT all the way,

Manicslayer said:
Okay, that is quite helpful. :)  I could play Crysis on my old 9600GT on all high settings at 1024x when I RMA'd my new card. The rest of my system is very new, but it's the video card that gets pummeled the most.

MAKE SURE your PCI slot is PCI Express 2.0. If it's just PCI-E 1.0, then you won't be able to use either card you've listed.

I would honestly get one more GB of ram as well because 1GB will hinder your gaming severely. (Get the same brand, mhz, and timings.)
I assume you're using Windows XP or Linux. If that's the case, 2GB should do just fine.

After that, check your power supply by simply removing the side of your case and taking a gander at it. PSU's generally have a label on them with important information such as peak wattage (Amps on the 12v rail is also very important).

Once you get this information, check to see if the cards you want meet the minimum power requirements. (400W on 9800GT for example.)

If you can support it, 9800GT all the way,

Ya,, I have a PCI slot of PCI express 2.0 and i think it is PCI x16 slot or something..........

I am currently using windows Xp and may switch over to Windows 7..........is it any good for gaming?

so by all the responses 9800 GT is way better than 9600 Gt isnt it?

Yes, the 9800 GT is significantly better.

The operating system doesn't really mean a whole lot if you're just gaming. The only things you look at are:

- What does this OS support game wise and feature wise. (Dx11, etc.)

- How much memory it takes to run the OS. (If you have 2 GB and the OS takes 1 to run, you only have 1 GB left over to run applications.)

Skip the operating system switch until you have your computer setup figured out.

cromedome said:
i thought the PCI express versions were backwards compatible. as in, a graphics card that is PCI express 2.0 would work on a PCI express 1.0 board, just a bit slower??????


You can put a 1.0 card in a 2.0 slot, but I don't believe a 2.0 card works in a 1.0 slot. If it does, it would definitely be card dependent and possibly not worth buying a better card with the performance loss from using an older slot.

At 1024x res, a 9800GT can handle just about anything. The only thing that would hold you back is that 1GB of system ram.


The card is a little big, so make sure it would even fit in your case first!

Manicslayer said:
At 1024x res, a 9800GT can handle just about anything. The only thing that would hold you back is that 1GB of system ram.

So even if there is only 1 Gb of Ram.....Can I play it on 1024 X 768 resolution?
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GTA IV is the HOG of a game at this time for all platforms including the pc. You need all the ram you can get that being at the very least 2gb while again the same for vram. 1GB editions of the 9800gt (not the shitty EE or green editions) if it doesn't have a 6pin pci-e connector don't buy it. GTA IV also favors one strong gpu and doesn't take advantage of sli and crossfire I tried its the only game that doesn't scale at all. As for Crysis again 9800gt over the 9600gt my friend has one of the best ones out there a limited edition from MSI. If you got a shitty psu ditch it any way you will need better later down the road any way. You need at least an Antec EA650 or a neo power 550 both are great units and I own them both. Why have one comp when they are like potato chips.

You can play it, but I'm not sure how good your FPS would be. Like I said, even a 9600GT can play Crysis all high settings at 1024x at 50+fps. However, the system I did that on had 4GB of ram. Get another GB of system ram and you should be able to seal the deal.

nforce4max said:
GTA IV is the HOG of a game at this time for all platforms including the pc. You need all the ram you can get that being at the very least 2gb while again the same for vram. 1GB editions of the 9800gt (not the shitty EE or green editions) if it doesn't have a 6pin pci-e connector don't buy it. GTA IV also favors one strong gpu and doesn't take advantage of sli and crossfire I tried its the only game that doesn't scale at all. As for Crysis again 9800gt over the 9600gt my friend has one of the best ones out there a limited edition from MSI. If you got a shitty psu ditch it any way you will need better later down the road any way. You need at least an Antec EA650 or a neo power 550 both are great units and I own them both. Why have one comp when they are like potato chips.

So 9800 GT 512mb editions should also have a 6 pin connector...........??

newzealend said:
So 9800 GT 512mb editions should also have a 6 pin connector...........??


Yes, as long as it's not an ECO version, which you wouldn't want to get anyway unless your PSU can't handle a normal one.

Manicslayer said:
Yes, as long as it's not an ECO version, which you wouldn't want to get anyway unless your PSU can't handle a normal one.

so we have to look for the 6 pin connector or If it is a ECO version, The 8600Gt minimum sysem requirements games will be slower ?

newzealend said:
so we have to look for the 6 pin connector or If it is a ECO version, The 8600Gt minimum sysem requirements games will be slower ?


6pin connector should come with the card if you buy it from a reputable source. Can you reword the 8600gt question again I can't quite understand what you're asking.

Yes, it should say Eco edition or something similar on the box. However, Eco editions are generally weaker than their more power hungry counterparts. It should still serve you well, however, if that is all your PSU supports.
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Manicslayer said:
You can put a 1.0 card in a 2.0 slot, but I don't believe a 2.0 card works in a 1.0 slot. If it does, it would definitely be card dependent and possibly not worth buying a better card with the performance loss from using an older slot.


You sir are wrong. A PCIex 2.0 card will WORK on a 1.0/1.1 SLOT without any issues and with virtually no loss of performance.

Manicslayer said:
Yes, it should say Eco edition or something similar on the box. However, Eco editions are generally weaker than their more power hungry counterparts. It should still serve you well, however, if that is all your PSU supports.

and what will be written on the cover of original normal version of 9800 GT?

hallowed_dragon said:
You sir are wrong. A PCIex 2.0 card will WORK on a 1.0/1.1 SLOT without any issues and with virtually no loss of performance.


I said I don't think, I wasn't completely sure as I never used PCI-E 1.0. Thank you for correcting, I thought cards would have long bypassed the bus limit on 1.0 slots but I guess wattage plays a huge part in it too.

newzealend said:
and what will be written on the cover of original normal version of 9800 GT?


(Brand Name) 9800 GT 512/1GB
Just read the details on the box, they won't try to trick you into buying an Eco edition. It will be labeled clearly by the card name.

Manicslayer said:
(Brand Name) 9800 GT 512/1GB
Just read the details on the box, they won't try to trick you into buying an Eco edition. It will be labeled clearly by the card name.

So if it is ECO version, It will be written as 9800 GT 512 mb eco edition?right?

Manicslayer said:
Yes, here's an example I got from Zotac's website.

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ZOTAC GeForce 9800 GT Eco 512 Mb

1 year ago, I brought an ASUS 7200GS graphic card.............That was one of the horrible cards..........

Is ASUS 9800 GT better or any other company like ZOTAC?

Honestly, the best thing to do would be to look at reviews online. Each manufacturer will put their own little design and cooling on each card.

When it comes to Nvidia, I go EVGA or XFX. Asus is a reliable company, but I'm not sure when it comes to their graphics cards.

Like I said, read some reviews on NewEgg, Cnet, Tigerdirect, or even right here on Tom's.

Manicslayer said:
Honestly, the best thing to do would be to look at reviews online. Each manufacturer will put their own little design and cooling on each card.

When it comes to Nvidia, I go EVGA or XFX. Asus is a reliable company, but I'm not sure when it comes to their graphics cards.

Like I said, read some reviews on NewEgg, Cnet, Tigerdirect, or even right here on Tom's.

EVGA and XFX..............what are they?

are they like GT, GS?

newzealend said:
EVGA and XFX..............what are they?

are they like GT, GS?


They are manufacturers just like Asus. A company that makes computer components. Anyways, my time is up. I'm getting out of work and going to lunch but you have been an ample distraction.

Hopefully you can get that new card and ram,

Good luck!

Manicslayer said:
They are manufacturers just like Asus. A company that makes computer components. Anyways, my time is up. I'm getting out of work and going to lunch but you have been an ample distraction.

Hopefully you can get that new card and ram,

Good luck!

Thanks dude...........I will get that Graphic card by April 5th...........before that I have to do enough resarch on Graphics cards because I was cheated and I bought the worst Graphic card 7200 Gs..............So I have to be careful this time..........
You have been a great help for me..............
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