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Want to run sc2 on highest settings but need to up graphics card

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March 15, 2010 4:59:54 PM

the tech dude told me maximum 300w pci so what does that mean? can i go further then 300 and what/where can i buy the equipment to upgrade the pc.

my pc runs at 2.93 GHZ 3.11 GB RAM and its a pavilion a1310y. if any1 can help it would be appreciated.
a c 130 U Graphics card
March 15, 2010 6:58:43 PM

You only have a pentium, and pci-slots. You need a solid upgrade.
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a b U Graphics card
March 15, 2010 7:48:21 PM

Yeah- a new machine is gonna be needed for you to max SC2- I don't think there is anything you can do to the machine you currently have to make it run SC2 at highest settings.
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March 16, 2010 1:28:08 AM

i dont wanna buy a new machine. Cant i buy a new power supply with a graphics card?
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a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2010 1:30:45 AM

It's not worth it. You'll probably have to buy a power supply that conforms to a non-standardized or non-ATX size specifications. PCI graphics cards are all overpriced, and the best PCI card is extremely weak. See if you can sell your computer for a hundred bucks or so. You can build yourself a cheap budget-gaming computer for about $400 or so.
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March 16, 2010 1:40:44 AM

i dot mind spending like up to 250 dollars though.
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a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2010 1:47:10 AM

Yeh. Sell your computer for about $100, and you'll have up to $350. You can still buy a decent computer if you're willing to build it yourself.
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March 16, 2010 1:53:13 AM

im not going to sell my comp man... i just put in 4gb of ram sticks.
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March 16, 2010 1:59:06 AM

this is all capable with the HP pavilion a1310y? if so i love you
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a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2010 1:59:37 AM

mustafaishere said:
im not going to sell my comp man... i just put in 4gb of ram sticks.


You will not be able to play Starcraft 2 at good settings when you have an old Pentium 4 single core computer, with an outdated PCI card slot. No PCI video card on the market today will be able to play SC2 at good settings. Even the ones that can play it on low will cost over $100 since they've become rare.

And the 4GB you've just put in...they're DDR1 right? DDR1 RAM is very slow as well.

I know you just added new RAM, but if you want to play SC2, your best option is to sell your computer and buy parts to build a new computer from scratch.



http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU + mobo = $123

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU = $40, $30 after MIR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
Any of these mid-tower cases = $20-$30

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2GB DDR2 RAM = $40, although I highly suggest you buy used (ie. from someone on these forums), used DDR2 RAM is much cheaper, and for $40 you can get 4GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ATI 5670 = $90


Total cost is ~$313, and add about $30 or so for shipping.

The parts I picked out will enable you to build a pretty good gaming computer...the dual core is fast and the graphics card performs equal to a 4830 or 9800GT...making it a good entry level gaming card.
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March 16, 2010 2:01:29 AM

no the ram is ddr2 and right now i can play sc2 but its graphics are really low and its kinda spiky during the game. i mean if i can get it to run at medium or high ill be happy man lol
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a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2010 2:02:11 AM

mustafaishere said:
this is all capable with the HP pavilion a1310y? if so i love you


Nope, those are the complete parts to build yourself an entirely new computer. A new computer for under $350.

It will be fairly up-to-date and will last you a while...as well as allowing you to play Starcraft 2 with good settings when it comes out.

If you can spend up to $350, then you can keep your old system. If you're just short, then I suggest you sell your old system.
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a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2010 2:05:08 AM

mustafaishere said:
no the ram is ddr2 and right now i can play sc2 but its graphics are really low and its kinda spiky during the game. i mean if i can get it to run at medium or high ill be happy man lol


lol. Well, if it's DDR2 and if it's PC2-4200 (533MHz), then you can reuse it in the system I suggested. You can buy all the parts except the RAM, and use the DDR2 RAM from your current system.

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March 16, 2010 2:06:04 AM

okay lets not say highest settings just medium or somthing
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March 16, 2010 2:08:48 AM

so i cant use any other power supply or graphics card or even new motherboard?
I mean lets say i do start from "scratch" like i kinda am now looking for a good graphics card a new power supply. why cant it work that way?
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a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2010 2:11:18 AM

^ Oh, and for the harddrive and CD/DVD drive, that's about $50-$60 total, but again, you can reuse the hard drive and CD/DVD drive from your old computer.

mustafaishere said:
okay lets not say highest settings just medium or somthing


Again, if you want to play medium on your current outdated computer, you'll need to buy a PCI card...which are all weak and overpriced. You'll have to spend $100 or so, and still get an inferior product that was obsolete years ago. I really don't suggest you spend any money on your current computer.

But if you really don't want to buy a new computer and just want to upgrade your old computer, then I suggest getting the 9500GT for your PCI slot. It can probably play SC2 on medium.
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March 16, 2010 2:14:09 AM

NEW NVIDIA 9500 GT 1GB DDR2 PCI-E 2 HDCP VCG951024GXEB
would somthing like this work out?
Thing is i checked the W would i have to find a new power supply for this????
A minimum 350W or greater system power supply (with a minimum 12V current rating of 18A)
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March 16, 2010 2:14:50 AM

bah this is becoming hopeless...
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a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2010 2:16:39 AM

mustafaishere said:
so i cant use any other power supply or graphics card or even new motherboard?
I mean lets say i do start from "scratch" like i kinda am now looking for a good graphics card a new power supply. why cant it work that way?


HP/Dell/other OEM manufacturers use specific custom parts that are not interchangeable. (such as BTX computer cases and BTX PSUs, when the standard design is ATX)

The parts that you can reuse from your old computer are your: RAM, hard drive, and DVD drive. If your PSU is an ATX power supply, you can reuse that as well...but I suggest getting a new PSU anyways since your current PSU probably doesn't have a PCIe connector.
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a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2010 2:17:54 AM

mustafaishere said:
NEW NVIDIA 9500 GT 1GB DDR2 PCI-E 2 HDCP VCG951024GXEB
would somthing like this work out?
Thing is i checked the W would i have to find a new power supply for this????
A minimum 350W or greater system power supply (with a minimum 12V current rating of 18A)

mustafaishere said:
bah this is becoming hopeless...



What is your current power supply's specifications?
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March 16, 2010 2:19:46 AM

Something PCI
300W Maximum is what like the tech guy told me.
is there i way where i can have all my system info.
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a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2010 2:23:01 AM

Yeh...so you have two choices before you.

1) Stick to your old system and buy a 9500GT, which might work and will probably play SC2 on medium...but you'll need to find out more info on your power supply, which might not have the right connectors.

2)
A. Keep your current system, and spend $350 on a new system that will let your play SC2 on high. You'll have to reuse your RAM, hard drive, and DVD drive.

B. Spend $350 on a new system that will let your play SC2 on high, and reuse some of the RAM. Keep the original amount of RAM in the old system and sell that system for about $100 or so. Then buy a new hard drive and DVD drive for about $50 or so.
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March 16, 2010 2:29:40 AM

well thanks man for your help. you stuck with my stubbornness just gotta say thank you. ill figure out this power supply thing then get that GT9500 thing.
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a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2010 2:38:42 AM

oh and make sure it's the 9500GT for PCI, and not PCIe (express)
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March 16, 2010 4:32:10 AM

mustafaishere said:
well thanks man for your help. you stuck with my stubbornness just gotta say thank you. ill figure out this power supply thing then get that GT9500 thing.


I think it would be better for you to build a brand new computer. It will only cost $150 to $200 if you use some of your old parts. Here are the things you need. You can look at the prices on newegg.com

Intel motherboard - $40
Celeron E3300 $50 (you can reuse your old pentium 4 cpu since its a 775 socket)
Case with power supply - $35
Video Card ATI HD 5670 - $90
SATA dvd drive - $15 (you will need this since both your HD and dvd is IDE)
reuse your memony/hard drive/keyboard/mouse/speakers

this will only work if you have a copy of Windows XP/Vista/7 to install on the new hardware. you don't even need to buy the computer now because SC2 is not out yet. buy the parks like 1 month before the game comes out and you might even get a ATI HD 5750 for under $100
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a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2010 4:49:43 AM

This Nvidia 9400GT is about the best you'll be able to do with your current system. Prolly won't need to bother with a new psu as any card on a pci bus isn't going to be fast enough to require more power. I suggest saving your money like everyone else but here you have it..
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a b U Graphics card
March 16, 2010 2:30:08 PM

Part of the issue here is that the P4 single core will bottleneck just about ANY graphics card you can get that would be able to get SC2 to good settings.
That 9500GT is fine, but its PCI-e not PCI, and it doesn't seem like you have a PCI-e slot. Any PCI card is just not going to be much better than what you have. Like has been said, sell it for as much as you can, and spend $300-400 and build a new machine. It'll make a big difference in EVERYTHING you do on your comp.
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