Need a cheap upgrade; recommendations?

Hey Tom's Hardware people, I'm looking to upgrade my computer for the use of gaming. Looking at my specs, my video card seems to be the weak spot in the bunch. Here's my computer...

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12132708-12133156-12133158-12133158-12133158-80631744-81049107.html

(Video adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS graphics card)

I need some recommendations on what new video card to get (and possible power supply if my 350w doesn't suffice) while staying (hopefully) below the $100 range. I'm more fond of NVIDIA over ATI since I already have one and a concern of mine is how much can fit in my tower. I'm not sure how much, but it seems like my tower is pretty long and could hold a lot, though I'm not quite sure seeing as people always complain about how their new video cards don't fit. Any ideas?
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  1. Grab an HD5670. It's priced at $90, and it's much faster than nVidia's current best offering (with no external connectors, anyways). Will go just fine with your PSU, and is quite small.
  2. Yes your system is very good ( especially the CPU )
    +1 to HD5670 since you have an 350W PSU. Good card for some mild gaming
  3. I would go a bit above my limit too if there were a card+power supply combo worth getting. I'll check into that though, thanks guys.[:

    Keep the recommendations coming please?
  4. No doubt the 5670 is the best card you can run for less than $100, and with no external power connector (since your PSU won't like you using that much power). Will do you for some gaming, but if you want to get better performance and higher detail levels, you'll end up having to spend more and get a new PSU as well. As far as fitting in the case, the 5670 is not a big card. It really should have no problem fitting. Also, there really isn't a good Nvidia card to suggest that will fit your budget and your needs very well. 5670 is your best bet.
    Edit- if you are gonna go up from the 5670, then you'll want to be looking at the 5750 or 5770, with a solid ~4-500W PSU with a 6 pin PCI-e connector. Something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008 should do you.
  5. Well the next logical step is the HD 5750, but + PSU i think it will cost you no less than $160-$170
    But id say go for HD 5670 since this will overcome your budget by 3/4
  6. Wow, this seems to be a unanimous decision. That's good. Is this the exact card everyone's talking about?
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102871&cm_re=HD5670-_-14-102-871-_-Product
    It does say 400w or greater in the specs, is this accurate?
  7. that card is fine, yes. And yes, it says 400W, but they always over-rate them so that they're not liable if something happens, but really, unless you have a ton of Hard drives, a super-overclocked CPU and GPU, a TON of fans, a couple of DVD/Blu-ray writers, etc. you won't have a problem. Your system probably won't even hit 250W total usage.
  8. Grab this one for $5 more.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161319&cm_re=hd_5670-_-14-161-319-_-Product

    1GB and IceQ technology.

    The card uses about 53 watts of power on full load. You will be absolutely fine.
  9. Shadow, that is not 1GB version that you linked.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161320&cm_re=5670-_-14-161-320-_-Product

    One thing though, this card cannot utilize all of 1gb, so get the 512meg version.
  10. +1 to the 512MB version
  11. Oh my bad, lol. I assumed 1GB because of the IceQ.

    HD4650/70 isn't powerful enough to utilize 1GB, maybe the HD5670 is. I'm curious as to where the borderline is when 1Gb becomes useful.
  12. I say the 1GB version. It's true that for the 4670, 1GB doesn't help because it's clocked slightly lower compared to the 512MB version. As for the 5670 the speeds are the same on both the 1GB and 512MB version. Also, the 5670 is a fair bit faster especially since it's using GDDR5 providing more bandwidth. That extra bandwidth will help the card utilize the extra RAM.

    In short, get the 1GB version.
  13. Thanks for all the feedback! I'm definitely looking into the HD5670 now.

    Any suggestions if, say, my budget was increased to ~$175? Would the performance increase from the > $100 HD5670 to the $175 cards/combos be that much greater?

    Just something I was looking at...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130339

    Possibly with a cheap, high voltage PSU...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817339012

    Any thoughts? Remember about tower size and the rest of my computer's components. http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12132708-12133156-12133158-12133158-12133158-80631744-81049107.html
  14. You will not skimp on a PSU, and a quality 450Watt Corsair is $50. Leaving you with $20, you can go with the HD5750, or you can upgrade to an HD5770 for $20 more (recommended).
  15. You can run a 5750 or 5770 off the 400W or 450W Corsair PSU's, which you can get for $45 after MIR on Newegg right now, but then you are pushing your budget to try for a 5770 even at $175. The 5750 would be the best fit for your budget in that case, which is only a bit better than the 5670. For that much more, its better to go with the 5670. If you can go up to the 5770 I would say go for it, but $75+ more for a 5750 is not gonna show you THAT much more perf over a 5670.
  16. flyinfinni said:
    You can run a 5750 or 5770 off the 400W or 450W Corsair PSU's, which you can get for $45 after MIR on Newegg right now, but then you are pushing your budget to try for a 5770 even at $175. The 5750 would be the best fit for your budget in that case, which is only a bit better than the 5670. For that much more, its better to go with the 5670. If you can go up to the 5770 I would say go for it, but $75+ more for a 5750 is not gonna show you THAT much more perf over a 5670.


    Agree:)
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