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APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: I did not buy it yet. A friend of mine suggested computerlx.com to me because they build custom computer for you... This http://www.computerlx.com/config.aspx?t=&product_ID=1234 is what I've been looking at. But, I am willing to use newegg too though to find myself parts.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming & surfing the web basically. I want it to be a multi-use computer I guess you could say.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: I'm starting from scratch, however I have a rockwell 550 watt power supply that I could reuse maybe, maybe not. Actually, I don't need a monitor or speakers or a microphone, A keyboard and mouse would be nice if i have extra money though.
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, computerlx.com, but I am willing to check other sites as well.

PARTS PREFERENCES: As long as it is reliable and will last me long enough, I do not care.

OVERCLOCKING: Yes in the future but not at first. I don't know the difference between

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Monitor itself is 1280x1024, but I run most games in 1024x768 because of my current computer's limits.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I don't want a very, very loud PC, but It doesn't have to be silent. I have a budget of 1200 at the most. I am somewhat new to hardware so forgive me if i don't know certain things. I'm lookign at the i7 920 with probably the x58 but hey, if something is better, I'm willing to change it. Right now, I'm not running any hardcore games right now... I've been playing M&B, MMO's like Darkfall. But, I'm gonna start playing EVE again soon. But, I wouldn't pay attention to that because I plan on having this computer for 4 years with upgrades so I will be playing hardcore games by then like Arma 2. So, I want a hardcore gaming system.
 
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Yes every thing is compatible.

20+4 pin is so you have the option to use only 20 pins on older motherboards. It will work fine, every PSU is made like that.

The Spinpoint F3 is faster then the WD caviar black and it's not much slower at all compared to the 10K vraptor. Look at this part of that page you linked to see the difference in speed, then you can decide what you want. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2tb-hdd-7200,2430-7.html

However I wouldn't buy the raptor drive.

If the Spinpoint F3 doesn't come with a cable, then here's one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812189155&cm_re=Sata_cable-_-12-189-155-_-Product
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5770 will work fine for that resolution. If not you can easily fit the 5850 in. Up to you.

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*EDIT* Don't buy a prebuilt system, they usually pair you with a crappy mobo/psu and then your screwed. Also, that build doesn't have a video card. So add $200 to that price. And I'm sure the PSU they selected is crap.
 
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whitefangs build looks pretty good (especially the $8 for Assassins Creed), though getting an HD 5870 may be a good idea if you can afford it and would like to end up playing high-end games. Also never buy pre-built new systems (referbs are a different story since even if you need to upgrade you can still save money)
 
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5870 vs the 5770 at that resolution will increase performance by so little it will be unnoticeable. if he upgrades the LCD then swap the 5850/5870 in there since my build comes $220 under budget.
 
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Right now it'll be unnoticeable, but once some new games come out that can tax the card enough, then you'll definitely see a difference. So if you plan on buying a new computer within a year, stick with the 5770. If not, then the HD 5870 may be worth it.

Whichever you choose, either card will be able to rip EVE to shreds. I get 30FPS on pretty much all max with an HD 4670, so you'll be perfectly fine with either for that game (or any other MMO really).

EDIT: Oh yea, i'd really consider grabbing a new monitor. Then you can dual-screen, which is a very good thing to have when playing any MMO. Plus you can also dual-box pirate in EVE :D
 
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Alright, thanks. I edited my post for specificness by the way. So if I don't buy the video card, I would save a couple hundred bucks right? And, is that power supply good to reuse? Thanks for all your help by the way. Also, if I do stick with the 9800 gtx, would it be better to go sli later on or just upgrade it? I heard there are problems doing sli and some games don't support it.
 
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No it would not be good to SLI a 9800GTX, better off buying a 5850/5870 when you get a new LCD down the road.

Don't reuse your power supply, it's a crappy brand and a crappy PSU, sorry.

You could do this...

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That's a very solid build. 5870 + 20" LCD.

Or switch 5870 out for 5850 and your set =)
 
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So which one would be best, the first build plus one of the monitors you linked or the second build? Is 1156 better than 1366? I want a computer I can upgrade for the next few years at least. Sorry for all the questions, it's just getting a new computer is a pretty big deal to me considering I have a few hundred dollar work computer thats 5 years old and has some socket 800 stuff for the cpu.
 
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So, is it worth getting a new monitor even with the 5770 or do i need the 5850? it's going a little over my budget, with my mouse it's at 1384 with shipping...But I think I can manage. Lastly, everything will fit right? I won't have any problems trying to get the graphics card to fit or have any cables not fit eachother? By the way, I'm playing on the Viewsonic va902b monitor. It's 19 inches and it is a LCD monitor. Do I still need a new monitor? It 05 technology though.

Alright, so since I'm gonna be basically gaming on this comp and I need more rpm...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136296

I might go with that instead for now, any comments?

I think I'm gonna stick with my 19 inch LCD Monitor for now, I might get the 23 inch on my birthday as a gift to myself basically... Any comments?
I also want 4 gigs of ram... What's good 4 gig ram for this build?
How about this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220468
 
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No the Spintpoint F3 500gb is almost as fast as that raptor, No point in buying it at all.

The second build is the best as it has the 5850 + a good monitor.

However the second build cannont crossfire because it is 16x4 crossfire. You would need to spend a little more ($30-50) to get a crossfire motherboard. Then you'd really be set.
 
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Alright looks great, thanks. I'm still confused thought about what's the difference between my viewsonic va902b 19 inch LCD Monitor compared to this 20 inch one? And what's a good thermal paste? By the way that ram isn't compatible with the motherboard. What's the difference between pci express 2.0 and 2.1? Will a 2.0 motherboard work fine with a 2.1 video card?

EDIT: Alright, in order to save money, I'm going to be use my current 9800GTX until I need a better card, and the same idea with the monitor. The only things I'm stuck between is the hard drive, ram, and OS. Os I'll do Windows 7 but not sure whether 32 bit or 64 bit, that won't take long for me to decide though.

EDIT 2: Do i need a full size case for better cooling for when I OC and my most important question for this is will the graphics cards 3 years from now be able to run on 750w AND fit in this mid tower case?
 
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I didn't see a real cpu preference, so here's an AMD option:

CPU: X4 955 $160
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 $125 after $15 rebate
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2GB DDR3-1600 CL7 $120
HDD: Seagate ST3500418AS 7200.12 500GB $55
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 $90
PSU: Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750W 80+ $100 after $10 rebate
or above Antec 900/PSU combo
Optical: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS $24
HSF: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus $35

Total: $709 after $25 in rebates, without GPU

Your 9800GTX should be okay for now. If you want to move up to 1920x1080 gaming, get a 5850 or 5870, then a 1080p monitor now or later.

--Jin
 
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Hey, thats almost exactly what i'm working on putting together only as a intel build, not amd. I also threw a ssd in there. Nice build.
 
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there seems to be some contention on this point. I have not tried the technology, but i wanted a very responsive system. I will be doing motly multitasking, office/internet, and music production.

alvin told me in my post to definately go SSD now to make the system responsive. I;ve read articles and seen benchmarks that confuse me even further. I cant seem to find a definative answer, so i thought id err on the side of caution.

Please let me know what your experience tells you.
 
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I agree with almost all of this, except i'd get this monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059. Dunno why whitefang picked a monitor that has a 5ms response time, and 1600x900 resolution. The one there is 1920x1080, with 2ms response time.
 
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