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February 20, 2013 1:14:52 AM

Hello,
I pretty much have my part list together but I have no idea what would be the best size on the tubbing that won't restrict the flow rate, but won't let the flow rate drop too much either. Any help would be great, thanks.
I will be running;
**CPU-Swiftech Apogee
**GPU-Two 4850X2 XSPC full coverage water blocks
**Radiators-Alphacool 240 & 140 both 45mm-maybe 80mm thick with possibly a push/pull fan setup, depending on space.
** Koolance RP-401X2 dual Swiftech MCP35X 12v PWM in series. Single 5.25" Reservoir.
**I'm undecided on the NB Chipset water block at this time.
**All going in a Cooler Master HAF 932 housing an ASUS Maximus II Formula.
THANKS AGAIN

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a c 92 K Overclocking
February 20, 2013 1:54:02 AM

Although I have read that 3/8" ID tubing is not that great of a restrictor (I run 3/8"), when I consider the journey you're sending the water through there (a fine journey it appears to be) I think I'd be looking at 1/2" ID tubing to accomodate that.
Just my take here
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a c 177 K Overclocking
February 20, 2013 2:49:56 AM

Tubing size doesn't have an impact on cooling performance, if its wider there's more water moving volume wise, if its narrower the water will move faster.
You get the same result at the end of it.

A common choice (and what I use) is 1/2" barbs and 7/16" tubing, that way you get a tight seal between fitting and tube.
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a c 78 K Overclocking
February 20, 2013 7:08:42 AM

MCP35x's are a D5 variant or in a laing housing. They require a minimum of 3/8" 's ID to be effective. anything above them and you're more than fine. Anything below that and you introduce restriction.

Martinsliquidlab had a test regarding them. Even a test of how much restriction/flow/pressure drop compression fittings and barbs may cause.

Getting tubing on a slightly bigger fitting is possible by dipping the tubing end on warm water to loosen it. Slip on the tubing and after it cools - the fit is tight.

Oh yeah scooter, I've got the older Rampage Extreme x48 - I'm interested in seeing how your work turns out in the end.
Build log? Please?
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February 20, 2013 11:41:21 AM

Wow, everyone is really giving me good info! I just got done pulling it all apart, pulled the pin-fin heat sink off and reset it with Arctic Silver 5 and cleaned everything up. I'm in the process of getting all my parts, but I will be doing the water blocks on the GPUs in the next few days I'll see about pix as I go. Another question, any opinion on barbs vs. compression fittings? I'm liking the look and piece of mind with the compression fittings, but this project is pushing my budget and I have to keep that in mind. Thanks.
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a c 78 K Overclocking
February 20, 2013 2:05:17 PM

You may want to go through my AMS build log(in my sig) mate, Its a cousin of the MIIF...meaning the Fusion block system.

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any opinion on barbs vs. compression fittings?

Both are prone to leakage if not tightened properly. Both have their aesthetics but only one doesn't need a tubing clamp to keep the tubing on.

You could:
1| have thinner dia tubing over a larger Fitting to get a snug fit, however the edges of a barb will protrude.
2| If you're like me see if you can get the Perfect seal barbs by Alphacool, Bitspower , DangerDen and Primochill
3| The monsoon compression fittings are the cheapest when considering they come in a pack of 6 where if you bundled any other makers compression fittings in a pack of 6 would cost about $10 higher.
4| as stated above, they are purely aesthetic nothing worth shelling to achieve a phenomenal flow rate or pressure.

According to the theme of your build, you'll know which way to take.
My Opinion though :) 
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a c 177 K Overclocking
February 20, 2013 7:00:27 PM

Compressions looks nicer than Barbs, for a pretty penny more.
Performance and reliability wise, both are exactly the same.

I personally dont bother with Compressions, i'm kind of too far in with Barbs to change now :lol: .
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a c 78 K Overclocking
February 20, 2013 7:17:40 PM


^DangerDen 1/2" OD PerfectSeal Barbs w/ 1/2" ID PC LRT White.


^EK PSC 10mm fittings or 3/8" OD compatible with a max of 5/8" OD tubing.

:)  the 2nd project was an excuse to try out the compression's.
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a b K Overclocking
February 20, 2013 8:20:28 PM

scooter69 said:
Another question, any opinion on barbs vs. compression fittings? I'm liking the look and piece of mind with the compression fittings, but this project is pushing my budget and I have to keep that in mind. Thanks.


There is no real functional difference between comps and barbs, but comps do look a little nicer. I actually ran both in my last loop because my GPU block was not able to handle 1/2" ID 3/4" OD compression fittings, but could do it with barbs and clamps. (If you're not going to run 1/2" ID 3/4" OD tubing, you won't need to worry about issues like this on most components).
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February 20, 2013 9:46:33 PM

Lutfij said:
http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac288/Lutfij/WC%20build%20log/IMG_0220.jpg
^DangerDen 1/2" OD PerfectSeal Barbs w/ 1/2" ID PC LRT White.

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac288/Lutfij/vintage%20case%20mod/IMG_0134.jpg
^EK PSC 10mm fittings or 3/8" OD compatible with a max of 5/8" OD tubing.

:)  the 2nd project was an excuse to try out the compression's.



No clamps needed and the tube's secure on the barb?
$2.50 isn't a bad price either.
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a b K Overclocking
February 20, 2013 10:09:34 PM

If you use smaller ID tubing and warm it up in hot water, you can get the tubing to fit. When it cools it will seal tightly, eliminating the need for clamps.
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a c 330 K Overclocking
February 20, 2013 11:18:15 PM

Lutfij said:
MCP35x's are a D5 variant or in a laing housing.


MCP35x is actually based on DDC pump with a custom PCB that includes PWM.
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February 21, 2013 12:23:05 AM

Thanks everyone, great info, just what I needed!
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February 21, 2013 12:24:25 AM

Best answer selected by scooter69.
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a c 330 K Overclocking
February 21, 2013 12:35:30 AM

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