Cat. 10.3 brings performance improvements with HD5000 and HD4800(!)

http://www.shanebaxtor.com/2010/03 [...] ap-driver/

Heh, there it goes

http://www.legitreviews.com/news/7586/

Besides the feature improvements on the HD5000, the performance will improve on both HD5000 & HD4800 series!

That includes:

3DMark Vantage

Overall scores increase by up to 8% with ATI Radeon HD 5970 graphics products
Overall scores increase by up to 4% on ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series products and up to 3% on ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series products

Aliens vs. Predator

Overall performance increases 5% on ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series products

Battleforge

Improves up to 8% on ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series products
Improves up to 3% on ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series products

Call of Duty: World at War

Improves up to 2% on ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series products
Improves up to 6% on ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series products

Company of Heroes

Improves up to 6% on ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series products
Improves up to 3% on ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series products

Crysis and Crysis Warhead

Improves up to 6% on ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series products
Improves up to 2% on ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series products

Devil May Cry 4

Improves up to 10% on ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series products
Improves up to 6% on ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series products

DiRT 2

Improves up to 30% on ATI Radeon HD 5970 graphics products
Improves up to 20% on ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series and ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series products
Improves up to 10% on ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series products

Enemy Territory: Quake Wars

Improves up to 5% on ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series products
Improves up to 3% on ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series products
Improves up to 2% on ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series products

Far Cry 2

Improves up to 6% on ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series products
Improves up to 4% on ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series products

Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2

Improves up to 3% on ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series products

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. – Call of Pripyat Benchmark

Improves up to 10% with Anti-Aliasing enabled on ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series products

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. – Clear Sky

Improves up to 2% with ATI Radeon HD 5970 graphics products
Improves up to 2% on ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series products

Resident Evil 5

Improves up to 5% on ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series products
Improves up to 3% on ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series products

Tom Clancy’s H.A.W.X.

Improves up to 15% with ATI Radeon HD 5970 graphics products
Improves up to 20% on ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series products and ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series products
Improves up to 3% on ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series products

Unigine Tropics

Improves up to 5% on ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series products

World in Conflict

Improves up to 5% on ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series products
Improves up to 3% on ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series products
Improves up to 5% on ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series products

Wolfenstein

Improves up to 4% on ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series products
Improves up to 4% on ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series products

There's an non-WHQL 10.3 driver coming out tomorrow
Can't wait!

Reply to unknown_13

Interesting. I mean really though, if you have a 4800 series card, 5700 series card, or 5800 series card, do you really need any improvement on Devil May Cry 4? :heink: Not exactly a demanding game there. My two 3850s had no trouble with that game and even one was able to be respectable at 1680x1050.

Anyway, hope they keep squeezing out more performance. :bounce:

But does it finally, once and for all fix the GSOD and vertical line issue?

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Reply to Mousemonkey

thanks for the links
I am waiting for this drivers too,will post as soon as they are available
to mouse,
I read somewhere(i think fudzila) that Cat 10.4 will take care of all GSOD problems,maybe 10.3 does the same too

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Reply to Maziar

Mousemonkey wrote :

But does it finally, once and for all fix the GSOD and vertical line issue?

Well i hope so, though i'm not an owner of a HD 5000 series, got an HD4850

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Reply to unknown_13

Can't wait...

Reply to MARSOC_Operator

Mousemonkey wrote :

But does it finally, once and for all fix the GSOD and vertical line issue?

I've never experienced vertical line issue with my 5870, it this really that common?

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Reply to MARSOC_Operator

unknown_13 wrote :

Well i hope so, though i'm not an owner of a HD 5000 series, got an HD4850

Well you are no good as one of my guinea pigs then! :lol:

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Reply to Mousemonkey

Mousemonkey wrote :

Well you are no good as one of my guinea pigs then! :lol:

hah ROFL

Reply to unknown_13

MARSOC_Operator wrote :

I've never experienced vertical line issue with my 5870, it this really that common?

Yes and no, there have been enough reports from those who have experienced it for AMD/ATi to have finally acknowledged it back in January but there is still no reason being given for what actually causes it and while I have my suspicions I too do not have access to a 5 series card to experiment with.

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Reply to Mousemonkey

My 5750's have been spectacular with no issues like that. They also DID solve it for a number of people, though there seem to be a few still having issues, but that could be other problems than just drivers. Might be drivers too, but its hard to say.

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Reply to flyinfinni

a 2-5% increase in FPS isn't really that much of a performance increase. In real numbers, if a game runs at 50fps for example, it will climb at 51-53 fps. Not a life changer!
Anyways, I'm more than happy with my 4870 which I got 18 months ago and still rocks any game I play (no, I don't play crysis) at 1080p

Reply to blashyrkh

Ah good new for my 4890! Keep rocking!

Reply to tnsantosh

bashyrkh what do you expect. Driver update after 6 months to bring another 30% improvement?

its not game changing at all but yet on review sites you see that 285 winning by 5% over 4890 is called clear winner

its all about PR, yes these changes (the small ones ) wont bring anything new to your experience. Its just preparation for Fermi to look NOT TOO MUCH better.

because if fermi is like 15% better and after these drivers its only 10% better thats huge in PR

BTW I still have my HUGE cursor problem on my 5850 and with 10.2 so its NOT FIXED

about the GSOD - if its the one that when you watch some flash your pc hangs due to driver crashing - yes I have this only when I installed Flash 10.1

and I BET its Flash idiots problem- thats the most idiotic software of all times - requiring like supercomputer to run a flash video - and about 5x slower than normal video player.

anyway disabling hardware acceleration for flash seems to fix it and I havent had problems since. Waiting on either ATI driver fix or Flash fix not sure who is guilty (can be both)

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Reply to rawsteel

rawsteel, do you have 2 monitors?

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Reply to EXT64

rawsteel wrote :

bashyrkh what do you expect. Driver update after 6 months to bring another 30% improvement?

its not game changing at all but yet on review sites you see that 285 winning by 5% over 4890 is called clear winner

its all about PR, yes these changes (the small ones ) wont bring anything new to your experience. Its just preparation for Fermi to look NOT TOO MUCH better.

because if fermi is like 15% better and after these drivers its only 10% better thats huge in PR

BTW I still have my HUGE cursor problem on my 5850 and with 10.2 so its NOT FIXED

about the GSOD - if its the one that when you watch some flash your pc hangs due to driver crashing - yes I have this only when I installed Flash 10.1

and I BET its Flash idiots problem- thats the most idiotic software of all times - requiring like supercomputer to run a flash video - and about 5x slower than normal video player.

anyway disabling hardware acceleration for flash seems to fix it and I havent had problems since. Waiting on either ATI driver fix or Flash fix not sure who is guilty (can be both)

Have you tried Cat 10.2 Hotfix?

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Reply to unknown_13

Mousemonkey wrote :

Yes and no, there have been enough reports from those who have experienced it for AMD/ATi to have finally acknowledged it back in January but there is still no reason being given for what actually causes it and while I have my suspicions I too do not have access to a 5 series card to experiment with.

There was a hotfix for 10.1 (I believe it was 10.1) that came out about a week before the next month's update that supposedly fixed the GSOD problems (cleared mine right up, though mine only did it frequently when I overclocked the card, otherwise it just randomly crashed, really ruining my Fallout 3 game )

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Reply to jedimasterben

unknown_13 wrote :

Have you tried Cat 10.2 Hotfix?

10.2 fixed the bugs with Flash acceleration for me. 10.2 did quite a bit for me, actually.

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Reply to jedimasterben

Mousemonkey wrote :

But does it finally, once and for all fix the GSOD and vertical line issue?

I'll let you know.... The beta version did not, though.

Reply to Scotteq

EXT64 wrote :

rawsteel, do you have 2 monitors?

Yes, why?

Reply to rawsteel

Here is the 10.3 preview driver:
http://sites.amd.com/us/undergroun [...] eview.aspx
But the strange thing is that when you click on desktop drivers it reports 10.3 mobility

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Reply to Maziar

yeah I was JUST going to post this, and same suspicion

Reply to rawsteel

If someone tries it on desktop and confirms it I will move on and install it

Reply to rawsteel

They're having some trouble with the links- they are working to get them fixed now:
CatalystMaker on twitter: "sorry all - the download links need updating - give it a few minutes. will let you know when its fixed"

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Reply to flyinfinni

I was just checking, as the only time I have seen that reported as happening was with 2+ monitors. I know several drivers were supposed to help with that (like 9.12 HF) but I guess they haven't fixed it completely.

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Reply to EXT64

really, hm, that's interesting.

I will probably try to play with some settings this weekend and see if I can figure out something

Reply to rawsteel

I can't find it in the AMD/ATI webiste... Was it even released already? :cry:

Reply to MARSOC_Operator

yes, but they are still fixing the download links. you can find it here:
http://sites.amd.com/us/undergroun [...] eview.aspx

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Reply to flyinfinni

They have been up for a while, on the underground.amd.com site. Though the desktop hot link still points to mobility (it might still work mind you)

EDIT: Award for not refreshgin before I post goes to me, Thanks flyinfinni

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Reply to daedalus685

I hope they didn't forget to make them :lol:

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Reply to EXT64

Anybody install the "mobility" driver yet on a desktop?

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Reply to z06psi

They've fixed the links now, so you can download the proper drivers for desktop!

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Reply to flyinfinni

Yes they did ....Thanks!

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Reply to z06psi

hey anybody , post any benchmarks before/after if you can

I will post also later

Reply to rawsteel

Uh, finally those "mobility" desktop bugs are fixed

Here for those who didn't downloaded already:
http://sites.amd.com/us/undergroun [...] eview.aspx

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Reply to unknown_13

You didn't mention this but it said in that article that the driver fixed bezel correction issues with eyefinity.

Reply to sparkman

How do I check what version I have now?

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Reply to builderbobftw

Open Catalyst Control Center and go to the information center. SHould tell you all the details.

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Reply to flyinfinni

Is this the latest?

Driver Packaging Version 8.69-091211a-094296C-ATI
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 8.01.01.994
2D Driver File Path /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/CLASS/{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}/0000
Direct3D Version 8.14.10.0723
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.9252
Catalyst™ Control Center Version 2009.1211.1547.28237

Message edited by builderbobftw on 03-17-2010 at 11:00:09 PM

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Reply to builderbobftw

I don't think thats the latest. Here is a screen cap posted of the newest version over on HardOCP:
http://hugalgh.com/pics/cat103preview.png

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Reply to flyinfinni

Just ran the Dirt 2 Benchmark with these drivers.

Max Settings - 8X AA - 1920x1080

Average FPS ~ 70.3
Minimum FPS ~ 61.3
Max (that I saw) FPS ~ 79

This is with max overclock in CCC, mind you.

Reply to alextheawesome

Link to the new drivers?

Also, Do i have to uninstall the old ones, or what?

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Reply to builderbobftw

Well, the only Benchmark I did (and a pretty messy one at that) was on Dirt 2 with the latest patch.

1920x1080, 8xMSAA in Game, 16xAF and Adaptive AA in CCC (not sure if I am supposed to force these), VSync in Game (so FPS capped at 60), All in Game Settings Maxed, Standard Cat. AI.

Cat. 9.12 Hotfix:

Average: 55
Minimum: 39

Cat. 10.3a:

Average: 58.2
Minimum: 44.0

Which is a great improvement in the minimum FPS. However, I don't think that benchmark is necessarily the most consistent, so I should have done several runs and averaged. Regardless, it seems like a decent driver as my comp hasn't bust into flames yet.

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Reply to EXT64

@ Alextheawesome: What were your benchmark results from before you installed the 10.3a driver?

Edit: @BuilderbobFTW- Unknown_13 posted the link just above here. Its probably best to uninstall and then resintall the new driver, but you probably don't have to unless you have problems installing it over the top of your other drivers.

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Reply to flyinfinni

EXT64 wrote :

Regardless, it seems like a decent driver as my comp hasn't bust into flames yet.

Why, When has that happened in any recent driver updates?

/Sarcasm

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Reply to builderbobftw

And also post all forced settings, in game settings, etc.

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Reply to EXT64

builderbobftw wrote :

Link to the new drivers?

Also, Do i have to uninstall the old ones, or what?

http://sites.amd.com/us/undergroun [...] eview.aspx

Reply to unknown_13

Alright, Cool. When i get on my desktop i'll download those. Anyways, Do I Uninstall the old ones? Do I have to install it in the OS partition?

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Reply to builderbobftw

I did a full uninstall (using Catalyst Install Manager), reboot, install of new drivers, reboot.

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Reply to EXT64

The drivers will go where they need to go. You can choose where to extract the files for installation to though.

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Reply to EXT64

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