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i noticed something wasn't right a couple months back and just yesterday things got real bad - blue screens...

at first i started getting system errors of different types. most common was that something msi stopped working or missing, or sometimes "There was an error copying this file." - and i had random crashes to blue screen eventually. it looked to me it could be a hard drive issue and i ran the windows bad sectors test and memory test - got nothing.

a time came when i couldn't use the computer for more than 5 minutes (all this happened progressively within 24 hours) so i decided to re-installing windows (win 7 64 bit) but i also had big problems doing it because i would get blue screens just after i click "Install" and select language/area (after it loaded the initial files after boot from dvd). the error was 0x00000007E (and also 0x0000003b).

at the end I reset my cmos and it finally went ahead and installed windows.

but - i am still getting the same crap. it was ok just after installation but after updating like half of the "important" ones i got the same crash again..

a couple times the blue screen showed: "Memory Management Problem".

what should i do?

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  1. sounds like ram compatibility problems, or maybe its dying. try a different kind if you can
  2. crap, i don't have any, i guess i'll have to order new one.. i currently have 3x2GB, so i guess i'll try them stick by stick...
  3. use windows memory test in win 7
  4. windows memory diagnostic tool didn't find any problems.

    i also tried to start memtest86 from a CD and it got me to the main screen but then it crashed. after that my computer started crashing on the very first window where you pick the version of memtest - and was restarting on its own.

    tried to enter the BIOS - it crashed while i was in the bios... had to reset CMOS again, even removed the motherboard battery for 30 secs...


    here's also my hardware configuration:

    Intel i7 950 Noctua NH-D14
    EVGA 131-GT-E767-TR LGA 1366 Intel X58 SLI 3
    G.SKILL F3-12800CL9T 6GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
    PNY GeForce GTX 470 1280MB
    OCZGXS700 (GameXstream 700W)

    (nothing is overclocked now and hasn't been for a month. before that was only oc-ed to 3.6Ghz, tested - stable)
  5. i also wanted to mention another issue that happened, maybe this would help identifying the problem? i tried installing Daz Studio 4 several times and i always get some error at the very end that the program did not isntall correctly. when i try starting it anyway i get this:

    "The program can't start because MSVCP100.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling.." - I tried - same issue..

    MSVCP100.dll appears to be a C++ library file and should've been installed with Daz. what hardware problem could cause the C++ library not to get installed?
  6. i'm running Prime95 and i see some hardware errors mentioned there but not sure what they mean:

    http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/7466/prime95.th.jpg http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/7875/prime95b.th.jpg
  7. i noticed the errors i get from trying to run programs are pretty random (for the same program) i guess and not the same error every time.

    i've never tried memtest86 befor but because i ran into some crazy problems lately i tried to run it and i think it just couldn't start. on the first screen i clicked 1) and instantly got at the bottom "Loading memtest.....ready." then nothing happens for like a minute and then this appeared:



    i couldn't click anywhere, so after 2-3 minutes it went in to this screen on its own:

    http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6083/img0575lf.jpg

    i waited for 5 minutes - nothing was moving, so i restarted.. is this normal?

    i am right now running on only one RAM stick to test and getting the same erros, so I am starting to doubt that the problem is in my RAM..
  8. ud be surprised how random the problems with ram compatibility can be
  9. It's probably your gpu drivers.
    The 470 is notorious for problems.
    Remove the Nvidia graphic drivers in add/remove
    Download http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html
    Run it in safemode
    analyze and clean Nvidia display
    restart normal
    go to amd site and download latest drivers
    install as admin
  10. memtest86 wouldn't start, so i used metest86+ and i got these results after a 15-hour test:

    http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5899/img0587lq.jpg

    i will adjust the RAM voltages first and see what happens and post it here, before i do anything else.
  11. memtest86+ is now running on 9-9-9-24-2T

    i left the voltage on Auto since it was showing 1.5V

    i bumped slightly the clock speed up to 558 MHz.

    16 minutes passed with no error - good sign? :bounce:

    http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2702/img0590jv.jpg
  12. CRAP..... i was so happy 15 minutes ago...... i guess this fixed some issues but not the main one :(

    http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7466/prime95.jpg

    could the problem be coming from a bad windows installation, since i installed when the memory speeds were bad? maybe it installed with fatal errors that are showing up now?
  13. ^^^ makes sense!
    But states hardware errors which could be attributed to a bad o/s install.
  14. davcon said:
    ^^^ makes sense!
    But states hardware errors which could be attributed to a bad o/s install.


    alright, i might re-install windows again then..

    and i got the driver removal thing you recommend and i'm also downloading the latest geforce drivers that came out just yesterday actually.. v. 285.62
  15. Best answer
    svetko said:
    alright, i might re-install windows again then..

    and i got the driver removal thing you recommend and i'm also downloading the latest geforce drivers that came out just yesterday actually.. v. 285.62

    Before you re-install make sure your ram is absolutely stable.
    When you ran those test did you test one ram stick at a time?
    If not do so/it's the only way to isolate a faulty module
    If the ram didn't prove stable/no errors at mobo default settings i have my concerns.
    Since mobo default voltage is 1.5v same as the kit.
  16. davcon said:
    Before you re-install make sure your ram is absolutely stable.
    When you ran those test did you test one ram stick at a time?
    If not do so/it's the only way to isolate a faulty module
    If the ram didn't prove stable/no errors at mobo default settings i have my concerns.
    Since mobo default voltage is 1.5v same as the kit.


    - just made these changes:

    lowered the BCLK back down to the default of 133
    changed the DRAM frequency to DDR3-1600 (x12 multiplier)
    This at rated timings of 9-9-9-24 and DRAM voltage set to 1.55V

    - Prime 95 gave me the same errors and then blue screen when i tried to exit.

    - shutdown, removed 2 of the sticks and left only ONE stick on DIMM2 (i believe - second out from the CPU) - it wouldn't enter windows.

    - shutdown, went to BIOS and loaded defaults (on that one stick) - it let me login in windows.

    attempted to start prime95 - blue screen before it even started (that's on stock - 1 module on dimm1 only)

    - replaced the stick with another one in the same slot (DIMM2), same errors, at least running though...



    - placed the same stick into DIMM slot 4 (on stock) and started Prime95 - running but with the same errors.

    will try another stick now.
  17. - replaced the second stick with stick #3 and placed it in DIMM 2 (still on stock - last time - will go try the suggested clocks in a sec) - running Prime95 with the same errors.

    - changed the stock clocks to the suggested ones - changed the DRAM frequency to DDR3-1600 (x12 multiplier) 9-9-9-24 and DRAM voltage set to 1.55V

    same errors:

    http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/2590/stick3dimm2.jpg

    - bumped the QPI PLL VCore to 1.125000 - same errors...
  18. alright, almost got it!

    tested stick#1 with memtest86+ and got many errors!
    http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9942/img05951c.jpg

    sneaky bastard! obviously that's a bad stick, but why would the other ones give me errors in Prime95?
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