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April 7, 2010 4:44:05 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 1 month BUDGET RANGE: $800-900 +/- Before Rebates

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Priority #1 is getting the best possible performance in WoW (specifically 10 & 25 person raid content, ideally without having to reduce all my video settings). Apart from gaming, I will be surfing the web, etc.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: I have a Dell Flat Screen Monitor, Gaming Keyboard, and mouse.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg and/or any other reputable website. I'd like case recommendations but may try to buy locally due to shipping costs.

PARTS PREFERENCES: None. From what I have read so far, it seems an AMD build may be optimal given my budget/requirements but I'm open to suggestions.

OVERCLOCKING: probably not. SLI OR CROSSFIRE: not initially, but maybe down the road if it makes sense and/or the MB, etc. offers that capability.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050 or 1920x1080 I think.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Budget includes the cost of the OS. If possible, I'd love for the build to have room for upgrades down the road if I can do so without sacrificing performance now. Thanks in advance for taking the time to help me. I really appreciate it.

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a b Ý World of Warcraft
April 7, 2010 5:08:16 PM

Here's a build I put together. Will be easily able to handle WOW at max settings.

Optical
Light On $21.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case
Antec 300 Illlusion $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
XFX 5850 $309.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Will play anything at 1920x1080 at max settings with reasonable --> more than necessary frame rates.

RAM
G Skill Eco DDR3 1600 7-8-7-24 $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


MOBO
GIGABYTE GA-790XTA-UD4 $139.99 w/ $15 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo has USB 3.0/SATA 6 and another PCIE slot in case you want to xfire in the future.

CPU
Athlon II X4 635 $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU/HD
OCZ Stealthxstream 700W and 720012. 500 GB $114.98 w/ $20 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


$896.92 Before $35 MIR and shipping.
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April 7, 2010 5:19:35 PM

quick question... in some of the other builds I have seen, people suggest the phenom II X4 955 processor (which seems a bit quicker but a little more pricey) but also the 5770 GPU (which is a bit cheaper than the one you suggested).

I'm not partial to either... just wondering why/if that would be a better route for this build...

Thanks a bunch for taking the time to respond.
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a b Ý World of Warcraft
April 7, 2010 5:45:52 PM

Well initially given your budget, I figured you'd be better off fitting in a 5850 and Athlon II x4 instead of a Phenom II x4 and 5770. This former results in a much high FPS increase in gaming.

The Athlon II's are just Phenom II's with a smaller cache which doesn't really make a big difference. It is a lower clock though so it's comparable to the Phenom II x4 920. ~6% avg difference

Comparison Here
http://anandtech.com/bench/Product/81?vs=122

Bear in mind the gaming benchmarks are done at medium setting and lower resolution to emphasize a CPU difference. Real world difference will be even less if you turn on the eye candy.

The 5770 vs 5850 difference is much greater, averaging 44% at 1920 x 1200 and 4xAA (common high end gaming setting).

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-card...[3249]=on&prod[3251]=on
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April 7, 2010 5:46:43 PM

In your opinion, should that processor + GPU combo with 4gb of memory run WoW at decent settings in the scenarios I mentioned above?

If I need to hold off on my build and save more money, I am willing to do that. I am trying to maintain a reasonable budget for this machine, because this is an unexpected expense (the MB on my Dell XPS 710 machine died and fried my processor just outside of my warranty and Dell wants $556 for the MB & $200+ for the processor replacement which is obsurd).

I am using the machine I built (prior to purchasing the Dell) about 5 years ago. It still works, but is obviously outdated, and I am running games at the lowest settings at about 30fps.

I'd like to build a machine that CAN be upgraded, but doesn't HAVE to be for atleast a couple years. Thanks again.
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a b Ý World of Warcraft
April 7, 2010 5:53:28 PM

WOW can be maxed out with the 5770 and Phenom II x4 build I suggested.

It'll last a few years. It just won't play all games at 1920 x1200 4xAA with smooth frame rates (35+).

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April 7, 2010 5:57:29 PM

Right on. I don't play any other games at the moment... that's not to say I won't at some point, but the priority now, with this build is to get the most out of WoW.

Hopefully, the platform offers enough potential for upgrades that I can build around future gaming (or other needs) if they arise.

Cheers.
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a b Ý World of Warcraft
April 7, 2010 6:09:30 PM

Yea, easy upgrade would be to just drop in another 5770 in the future.
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April 7, 2010 10:32:10 PM

Based on our discussion earlier, I did a little searching on new egg, and this is what I came up with. I'd love to hear any feedback people have on how/if this build can be improved...

Case + PSU (combo)
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 & OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W $154.97
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

CPU + GPU (combo)
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz + MSI R5770 Hawk Radeon HD 5770 $309.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

CPU Cooler (if needed?)
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 $34.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

MOBO
GIGABYTE GA-790XTA-UD4 AM3 AMD 790X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

HD
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

Optical
Light On $21.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Throw in some thermal compound and the grand total came to: $846.89 (before S&H and any MIR)

Looking forward to your feedback... take care.
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a b Ý World of Warcraft
April 8, 2010 8:59:09 AM

$775 AR including ship
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April 8, 2010 3:24:44 PM

Thanks for the replies banthracis & for the build suggestion batuchka. I have a question about your (batuchka) build... hopefully you, or someone equally knowledgeable can answer.

The MOBO I included in my build seems to be somewhat of a standard suggestion here on Toms. The one you proposed seems to be quite a bit cheaper, and I was sondering if that was because it was older and/or offered less in the way of potential for future upgrades...

There seems to be a lot of mention of certain boards being compatible with a new AMD chipset, and I'd like the capability to crossfire another video card down the road if the need arises.

I like the fact that your build has both the phenom II 955 and the better video card, I am just not knowledgeable enough about compnents to know if I am sacrificing upgradeability and/or dependability for the future for better performance short term.

Thanks...
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a b Ý World of Warcraft
April 8, 2010 3:43:05 PM

The mobo lacks USB 3.0/SATA 6.0, xfire support. It's also a budget board so it doesn't have the same overall build quality/reliability. We like to suggest the ASUS mobo's because USB 3.0/SATA 6.0 are the new industry standards, so it kinda sucks buying a mobo that is outdated before you even get it.

Performance wise it won't be much worse than the ASUS except no xfire support.

A-DATA is also a budget RAM company. Which isn't saying it's bad, but like biostar, lower build quality/reliability as opposed to the big names.

I would suggest you don't bother with the CAS 9 latency RAM though. CAS 7 is generally what you want.

If you're looking for a best bang for buck system, batuchka's build is fine, though I'd suggest better RAM and a better case.

However, his build does mean no future expansion of capability. You'd need a new mobo and PSU to xfire 5850's.
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April 8, 2010 3:53:28 PM

Thanks for the info Banthracis. I think I am going to stick to something similar to the build I put together with the exception of swapping out the RAM for the lower voltage Eco's that you recommended initially (and the cheaper thermal paste).

I'll have to see what combos are available when I am ready to pull the trigger, but ultimately those are the components I will shoot for.

For me, it's a pretty high priority to have a build that offers a solid balance of upgradeability in the future, and reliability short term (especially given my recent Dell'bacle).

Thanks a bunch for all the feedback everyone. I really appreciate you taking the time to help me connect the dots.

Have a fantastic day!
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April 8, 2010 4:01:44 PM

Best answer selected by eja78.
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April 8, 2010 7:50:40 PM

I don't want to roll a grenade into the room now that you kind of have things settled..

but considering your primary need (WoW) and budget, I'm going go ahead and call out the quad core. A good dual core will still max out WoW and save some cash. I'm a huge fan of the Phenom X2 555 3.2 ghz dual core because it has a really good chance of easily unlocking into a quad core. And if it doesn't, it's still a solid processor for around $100.

You could also drop down to the Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3 board for $90 as it has USB 3.0 and Sata 6gbs. It won't support Crossfire, but with a 5850 by the time you need some extra GPU power, you'll either be building a new system or just selling the 5850 and getting a new card.

I would pass on the Heatsink for now. Try out the processor you get and if you decide you NEED to OC (you won't with WoW), then you can get the Hyper 212 (great heatsink). Also, the heatsink comes with thermal paste. I don't think you'll be doing extreme OC's so I wouldn't worry about buying more/better paste.

When you go to checkout, see what the shipping price is with and without the case. Depending on where you live (distance), it might be cheaper to buy the case locally because they tend to jack up the shipping cost (weight). If you do buy the case locally, add the Antec Earthwatts 500W or 650W (whatever one is on sale) to your build - assuming you get the motherboard I listed above and so don't intend to Crossfire down the road. Otherwise, consider the Corsair 750W for efficiency. But IMO in your situation I wouldn't worry about leaving the door open for Crossfire; you're more likely to just buy a whole new card in 2-3+ years rather than find an ancient 5850 to CF with :) 

Anything listed in this thread will kill WoW so you're good to go with whatever, I'm just /grenading your thread because I've recently put together a few systems for some WoW fantatics based on what I said in here and trying to keep the $$$ to a min :) 

Cheers
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