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Please evaluate my AMD Phenom II X4 955/ XFX 5770 x2 Gaming Build

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April 8, 2010 6:27:32 AM

ADVANCED WARNING:
I'm a noob trying to learn to build their first computer. Please be gentle and bear with me :??: 

Also I'll listing any component additions/deletions/swaps made to my initial prospective build under the UPDATE headers at the bottom of this post.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: End of April/Beginning of May

BUDGET LIMIT: $1,300.00 Before Rebates

SYSTEM USAGE: Gaming, Watching HD Videos/Movies (not necessarily Blu-Rays)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITES FOR PARTS: Amazon.com first (because of free shipping to my address and no sales tax), then Newegg.com

PARTS PREFERENCES/ PROSPECTIVE BUILD:

CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 HDZ955FBGIBOX 3.2 GHz/6 MB L3/125W Processor
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00275G0VE/ref=ord_car...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPUs:
XFX Radeon HD 5870 1GB (single)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002Q5V704/ref=ord_car...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo:
MSI 790FX-GD70 SocketAM3/140W
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001V9KQPI/ref=ord_car...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive:
1T Western Digital Caviar Black
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001C271MA/ref=ord_car...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory:
CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 4GB ( 2 X 2GB ) PC3-10666 1333MHz 240-pin DDR3
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014BOQ54/ref=ord_car...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PSU:
Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750-Watt
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001M3G42W/ref=ord_car...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case:
Cooler Master HAF 922 Mid-Tower
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RC-922M-KKN1-GP-Tow...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive:
Lite-On LightScribe 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive IHAS424-98
http://www.amazon.com/Lite-LightScribe-Layer-Drive-IHAS...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


OVERCLOCKING: Maybe, but I'd prefer not to...

CROSSFIRE: Not now but in a year or so.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080 or 1920x1200. I don't really care about Crysis, but I do wish to play mainstream FPS like BC:2, MW:2 at max settings and watch movies at 1080p.

TOTAL COST of CURRENT BUILD PARTS (including applicable shipping and taxes):
Amazon: $1,099.93
Newegg: $1,292.76


ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
I choose to go with the HAF 922 mid-tower because the 932 full tower, well most full towers, are a bit too large for my tastes. The 922 is a bit bigger than most mid-towers from what I hear, and someone said that my config 'should fit', but they weren't sure about the heat etc.

Also the reason I'm choosing to buy and build at the end of this month is because I heard that component prices generally go down during this period. Is there any truth to that regarding the parts I selected?

THANK YOU IN ADVANCED FOR YOUR INPUT!

UPDATE #1:
I took out the CPU Cooler per excelblue's suggestion (Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm) and will try the stock cooler.

I'm also going to use Windows 7 Home OEM as the OS, but since only Newegg has it, I'm not including it into the 'Price of Current Build Parts' calculation for either vendor.

UPDATE #2
Following the infinite wisdom of welshmousepl, mkramer0820, and batuchka, I will use the money I saved from Update #1 to go for a 5870 single card configuration instead of Crossfired 5770s. This will save me some strain on my PSU and fans while giving me a more powerful and cost effective upgrade path down the line.
April 8, 2010 7:26:21 AM

The boxed AMD processor comes with a good cooler, so you can save a bit of money by not buying the Hyper 212. You will only need a high-end cooler like that if you plan to do some serious overclocking. Otherwise, the AMD stock cooler is excellent at stock speeds and is still good for a decent amount of OCing.

Since you're buying hardware, you are eligible for an OEM version of Windows. Since you came here and shown a very sensible build, I doubt you'll be able to make use of the 6hr personal support that comes with the full retail version. Instead, you can save a significant chunk by getting this instead:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

With the exception of "idiot" support and the ability to transfer the license to other systems, it's exactly the same as the retail version once installed.

I'd actually even feel comfortable with a smaller case. Your system won't be too heavy on energy usage, so 120mm + 80mm (one intake, one exhaust) should be enough. It's OK if your system runs a little hot. It's only a problem when the heat starts to cause issues with the components. If you can stress-test your machine and everything's stable, you're fine.

Other than that, I'd say it's a very sensible configuration, and enjoy your system! By the way, lower your budget - look to spend no more than $900 for this exact configuration.
April 8, 2010 8:32:20 AM

excelblue said:
The boxed AMD processor comes with a good cooler, so you can save a bit of money by not buying the Hyper 212. You will only need a high-end cooler like that if you plan to do some serious overclocking. Otherwise, the AMD stock cooler is excellent at stock speeds and is still good for a decent amount of OCing....since you're buying hardware, you are eligible for an OEM version of Windows....I'd actually even feel comfortable with a smaller case. Your system won't be too heavy on energy usage, so 120mm + 80mm (one intake, one exhaust) should be enough. It's OK if your system runs a little hot. It's only a problem when the heat starts to cause issues with the components. If you can stress-test your machine and everything's stable, you're fine...


Thank you very much for your input, especially regarding the case since that's what I was most unsure of even though I really want it. And I'm removing the CM 212 from my purchase list since I trust your judgement of the stock cooler. Anyways I can always buy it later if I have to.

Also thanks for pointing out the cheaper OEM edition of Windows 7. Too bad I only have Newegg to choose from, but I'll still save at least 50 bucks either way.
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April 8, 2010 8:42:52 AM

If i were u i'd either hit a single HD 5850 and a cheap 770/budget 790GX if you can't wait or else if April 26th isn't a bridge too far AMD would unleash its SATA 6GB/s native supporting enthusiast chipset the 890FX along with Thuban X6...
April 8, 2010 8:43:40 AM

i would strongly recommend getting a single more powerful card( a 5850 or 5870) than crossfiring two 5770s.

you may lose a little performance, but you will have a cooler, quieter system that draws less power, and most importantly you can add another card down the road for more performance, instead of having to get rid of both cards to upgrade.
April 8, 2010 10:24:23 AM

welshmousepk said:
i would strongly recommend getting a single more powerful card( a 5850 or 5870) than crossfiring two 5770s.

you may lose a little performance, but you will have a cooler, quieter system that draws less power, and most importantly you can add another card down the road for more performance, instead of having to get rid of both cards to upgrade.


I actually wanted a single 5870 to begin with, but switched to the dual 5770s cause it was cheaper.

But you certainly point out the overwhelming advantages of the single card for this build. Plus the $100 I recently cut from my initial build would negate the price difference.

However, if I did choose to Crossfire two 5870s or 5850s down the line, would I have to change any other parts of my build to avoid bottlenecks, or is my current mobo and cpu selection up to the task?
April 8, 2010 10:26:48 AM

batuchka said:
If i were u i'd either hit a single HD 5850 and a cheap 770/budget 790GX if you can't wait or else if April 26th isn't a bridge too far AMD would unleash its SATA 6GB/s native supporting enthusiast chipset the 890FX along with Thuban X6...


Well the newer stuff would be nicer, but I'm guessing it would be more expensive, no?

Actually, once the hexacore comes out, should I expect the price of the quad core cpu to drop as well?
April 8, 2010 1:21:45 PM

Nope the 870 is a direct replacement for the current 770 and those are at the $60-80 mark hehe The 890GX out is filling in the previous 790GX pricepoint nicely ^^
April 8, 2010 1:43:11 PM

Good build, i too would also suggest a single 5850, i was going to do the xfire 5770 and i am happy that i went with the 5850. That PSU should be good for xfire in the future that is what i am using and see no problems what so ever. A smaller case is not a bad idea either. I too use the 922 and this case is huge. if you dont plan on upgrading to larger parts and more hardware the 922 is massive and not needed. But the airflow in it s really good.

Any of these Seagate Hard drives should be considered too. I use a WD but have nothing against seagate either. Seagate is a little cheaper and just a good many think.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

overall build looks good and should rip most games apart.
April 9, 2010 1:03:55 AM

yup, as kramer pointed out you dont need to worry about upgrading your PSU if you want to crossfire later. and with that CPU you dont need to worry about a bottleneck.
April 9, 2010 2:20:26 AM

welshmousepk said:
i would strongly recommend getting a single more powerful card( a 5850 or 5870) than crossfiring two 5770s. you may lose a little performance, but you will have a cooler, quieter system that draws less power, and most importantly you can add another card down the road for more performance, instead of having to get rid of both cards to upgrade.


Alrighty then! I've switched out the dual 5770s for a single XFX 5870.

Thank you!


April 9, 2010 2:36:12 AM

batuchka said:
Nope the 870 is a direct replacement for the current 770 and those are at the $60-80 mark hehe The 890GX out is filling in the previous 790GX pricepoint nicely ^^


So would that mean that the 790GX I selected will shift down in the price brackets once the 890GX comes out?

Also are what any significant are the improvements of the 890GX over the 790GX that I should be aware about?
April 9, 2010 2:39:19 AM

Here's a build I put together.

Optical
Light On $19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case
922 $89.99 w/ $10 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS Win 7 OEM $99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU/HD
OCZ Gamexstream 850W and Spinpoint F3 500 GB $134.98 w/ $30 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
PSU can easily handle xfire 5870's


GPU/RAM
5870 and G Skill Ripjaw DDR3 1600 7-8-7-24 $514.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
better RAM then what you had. CAS 7


CPU/MOBO/Free Game
Phenom II x4 955, GIGABYTE GA-790XTA-UD4, MW2 (hey, it's free. Sell on ebay for $40 if you don't want =P) $15MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Mobo has USB 3.0/SATA 6 and another PCIE slot in case you want to xfire in the future.



$1280.55 After Shipping, Tax before $55 MIR

alternatively you can grab a 750TX and spinpoint F3 for a $1,313.48 total after shipping and tax before $35 MIR
April 9, 2010 2:58:07 AM

Quote:
didnt the OP just got convinced out of the Hyper 212? :lol: 


haha yea, that's why I decided to make it an addendum, just in case :kaola: 

Besides, I just find it hilarious that newegg's automated pricing system caused the pay us to take floppy off their hands glitch. Usually free item is best we get!
April 9, 2010 11:14:51 AM

omgwtflolbbqbye said:
So would that mean that the 790GX I selected will shift down in the price brackets once the 890GX comes out?

Also are what any significant are the improvements of the 890GX over the 790GX that I should be aware about?


890GX already out ^^

790GX - SB 750/SATA 3GB/s
890GX - SB 850/SATA 6GB/s
!