Sorry for the delay. Been swamped. Hope I can answer your questions. Updates, yes, all up to date, in fact, this server is my WSUS and it synchs each night with MS. As far as specific sites, I may have to eat my words, on one specific date it appeared that one site (juno.com) was the culprit, but lately I am not sure and perhaps I should not have jumped to that conclusion. I also believed at one time it may have been the firewall (PC Tools) but after trying all versions, then tried the AV engine, no dice. What bugs me is that Windows 2000 servers don't have this problem and would have stayed with them but July 2010 is the ax night when 2000 goes Jurassic. Never heard of Astaro but I am going to check it out now. Thanks so much for all the time you've spent, not sure if I will ever get to the bottom of this. I hope I can test 2008 next.