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Did XFX 9600GT works with iBall generic 400w PSU?

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March 20, 2010 10:30:00 AM

Did XFX 9600GT works with iBall generic 400w PSU with 17A on 12v rails?

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a b Î Nvidia
March 20, 2010 11:49:05 AM

I wouldn't do it. The 9600GT needs 8A for itself, and the CPU usually needs 95. Then there's HDD's and everything..
Get an HD5670. It'll use around 5a, leaving 12 for the CPU and everything else. Though if your CPU is a phenom ii or heavily overclocked, you're done.
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March 21, 2010 4:00:27 AM

Its not for me,Its for my friend,His config is

Dual Core 2GHz
P5KPL AM PS(Going to buy this week)
XFX 9600GT 1Gb (Going to buy this week)
160GB seagate IDE hdd
Sony sata dvd-rw
and 2 80mm local case fans with the IBALL 400wat generic psu!
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March 21, 2010 4:09:49 AM

wat abt mercury 450 watts psu with dual rail with 16/17 amps
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March 21, 2010 4:35:25 AM

The answer is, you're probably right at the power supply's limit with that configuration. On my old system, I ran a dual core overclocked to 2.4 GHz, SATA DVD & HDD and several case-fans with my PNY 9600GT 1GB. I used a 430W Thermaltake TR2 (Newegg link here) and had zero problems even though that power supply wasn't even 80 plus certified, but it was because the PS had a lot of amps (29A) on the 12V rails. Make sure you have at least 25A on the 12V rail(s)... 20A at the bare minimum. I'm trying to find definitive info on your power supply, but I'm finding conflicting info... easiest thing to do is read the label on it. It probably has two 12V rails, so just add up the number of Amps for both. If it's at or below 20A (25A if you want to be sure), I wouldn't even try... just spend $30 on a decent low-end power supply (here's just one suggestion for $25, free shipping). Hope that helps.
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March 21, 2010 5:04:43 AM

He is ok for the PSu with 30$,But it is not available here,I am from Kollam,Kerala,India!
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March 21, 2010 5:08:29 AM

Aneesh@4GHz said:
He is ok for the PSu with 30$,But it is not available here,I am from Kollam,Kerala,India!


Ya man I have a 580 Watt PSU running:

GTX 260

AMD Atholon 2 x 2 Dual core @ 3.0Ghz

3Gig's of Ram in Dual Channel @ 800Mhz

160Gig HDD

DVD Burner

WiFi Card B,G, and N

AM3 Gigabyte MotherBoard all on 580 Watts from newegg I only spent like $25 on.
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a b Î Nvidia
March 21, 2010 5:16:34 AM

The problem is none of the PSUs your listing are of good quality. The parts inside of them, if they are even there, will be cheap. This means when stressed, the voltage might be out of range, or have a bad ripple. The Corsair 400W will power the 9600GT with ease, but an "iBall" 450W could have trouble.
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a b Î Nvidia
March 21, 2010 5:25:05 AM

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easiest thing to do is read the label on it. It probably has two 12V rails, so just add up the number of Amps for both.


Except it doesn't work that way. You can't just add the two (or more) numbers together to get the total output. Take my Delta based Earthwatts 500W PSU for example. "Two" 12v rails, each rated at 22A. According to you I should have 44A but I don't. There is a little note right beneath the PSU chart that says 12v1 and 12v2 can only output 408W at the same time. This comes out to 34A. Each rail by itself might be 22A, but the source feeding them both is only capable of sending 34A total. Another way to show thats wrong is that 44A x 12V = 528W, which is more then a 500W PSU can do.

The PSU you linked isn't any better then the ones he's suggested already. Has the red voltage selector switch, so its based on an old design. This is farther backed up by the use of an 80mm fan and 75% efficiency. It also has to much power available on the 3.3 and 5v rails, and no info on how much power is on the 12v1 and 12v2 rails total. I wouldn't use that PSU.
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a b Î Nvidia
March 21, 2010 5:42:33 AM

Getting warmer. I would at least run that. Not sure about the quality however.
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March 21, 2010 5:53:57 AM

I am ready to buy, but it is not available here,I am from Kollam,Kerala,India!
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a b Î Nvidia
March 21, 2010 6:05:22 AM

What else is available where you are? We can list things all night, or you can tell us.
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March 21, 2010 6:11:56 AM

4745454b said:
What else is available where you are? We can list things all night, or you can tell us.


True True! I can give you a list of every good power supply on newegg.com in your price range. So whats the amount your willing to spend?

To be honest most the veterans on this site are very true about what they say, but in my case I bought a cheap PSU off of newegg and scored, but I had to plug and pray that nothing bad would happen. You always take a chance when buying a PSU.
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March 21, 2010 6:32:06 AM

Can you tell us which Brand is available out of these?

Corsair,Seasonic,Antec,Silverstone,FSP,Gigabyte,Tagan

If you have Coolermaster available then go for real power series not extreme power series.
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March 21, 2010 6:35:07 AM

Only coolermaster is available here!they ask for 5000-6000RS for the 500W one!
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a b Î Nvidia
March 21, 2010 6:37:09 AM

Anything else available?
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March 21, 2010 6:48:54 AM

Aneesh@4GHz said:
Only coolermaster is available here!they ask for 5000-6000RS for the 500W one!


So they want about $125.00 US Dollars for that. Wow could you post a link?
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March 21, 2010 6:51:37 AM

Okay,Look for Coolermaster Real Power Pro 460W.

Real Power series is much better than Extremepower and this unit is 80Plus certified.

Get this one.
Otherwise Buy online.
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March 21, 2010 6:53:45 AM

iholbrookv2 said:
Wow could you post a link?


Which link?
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March 21, 2010 6:56:23 AM

Ok,Guys ,I will search here every where for the CM RP PRO 460!

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Thank you all for ur replies!
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March 21, 2010 7:02:03 AM

Aneesh@4GHz said:
Ok,Guys ,I will search here every where for the CM RP PRO 460!

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Thank you all for ur replies!


I was thinking that you could look on tigerdirect.com or newegg.com and find a PSU for your computer and then post the web address or link here and we can tell you if that would work well with your system.
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a b Î Nvidia
March 21, 2010 7:19:26 AM

If you can't find anything good, just get something cheap? Pray it lasts long enough for you to save up more $$$ and get something good.
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March 21, 2010 7:27:49 AM

4745454b said:
If you can't find anything good, just get something cheap? Pray it lasts long enough for you to save up more $$$ and get something good.


Agree.
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March 21, 2010 7:31:35 AM

Some more locally available cheap PSU...

VIP Silver 500W (Bluish casing) for Rs1700

Power Safe 500W Gold Rs 2250



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March 21, 2010 1:10:50 PM

Ok,I will contact the retailer tomorrow,And will came back to the forum
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March 21, 2010 2:24:28 PM

I don't know, Did it?
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March 21, 2010 7:36:12 PM

4745454b said:
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easiest thing to do is read the label on it. It probably has two 12V rails, so just add up the number of Amps for both.


Except it doesn't work that way. You can't just add the two (or more) numbers together to get the total output. Take my Delta based Earthwatts 500W PSU for example. "Two" 12v rails, each rated at 22A. According to you I should have 44A but I don't. There is a little note right beneath the PSU chart that says 12v1 and 12v2 can only output 408W at the same time. This comes out to 34A. Each rail by itself might be 22A, but the source feeding them both is only capable of sending 34A total. Another way to show thats wrong is that 44A x 12V = 528W, which is more then a 500W PSU can do.

The PSU you linked isn't any better then the ones he's suggested already. Has the red voltage selector switch, so its based on an old design. This is farther backed up by the use of an 80mm fan and 75% efficiency. It also has to much power available on the 3.3 and 5v rails, and no info on how much power is on the 12v1 and 12v2 rails total. I wouldn't use that PSU. (Emphasis added by Gupeez).


Where did I say that adding the two numbers equals the total output? I just gave him a range of amperage that should be available on the 12V rails to run a dual-core and a 9600GT. We already know the OP has a system that requires maybe a 350W PSU. I'm just trying to find a cheap power supply for this guy that I know will work for his system. If he has a 400W+ PS with at least 20 to 25A on the 12V rails, it will power what I know his system to be. I stand by that.

Anyway, back to the OP. Looking on India's eBay, I see there's not a whole bunch of variety... although the iBall 400W is one of the models available for about $15. Why not just use two power supplies? Here's a link to the mods you'd do: here. I haven't done it, but it looks like fun.


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a b Î Nvidia
March 22, 2010 3:09:32 AM

Fine, then you implied thats the total output. You told him to add them together. There is no reason to do that. Period.

I thought someone said to avoid the xtreme power series? The one linked still looked like junk. It might be better then the "iball" or some others that have been mentioned.
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March 22, 2010 6:24:06 AM

The retailer said VIP may be available!He will contact me after confirming its availability!
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March 22, 2010 8:05:49 AM

VIP Silver 500W is a fine PSU.
Just check for the bluish casing one.
That's a good unit.

What about CM Real Power?

Avoid Extreme Power.
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March 22, 2010 1:39:47 PM

The VIP 500W GOLD is 2100RS ,I am ok with that and can any one gave me the detailed specs of VIP 500W GOLD (Amps,Rails,Output ,etc)
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March 22, 2010 1:48:30 PM

Try to find VIP Silver model which is for around Rs1700 with a blue color body.

Actually Silver models are better than their Gold models.
They even have active PFC(AFAIK)

If you can't find that then go with Gold.
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March 22, 2010 1:59:27 PM

OOps..I was updating that post...

Try to find VIP Silver model which is for around Rs1700 with a blue color body.

Actually Silver models are better than their Gold models.
They even have active PFC(AFAIK)

If you can't find that then go with Gold.
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March 22, 2010 2:00:45 PM

Aneesh@4GHz said:
But nothing abt Amps !Did any one knows the amp rating?



These VIP PSU are locally available only In India.
There is not much info even on net.
But people have run Cards upto HD4850 on 500W VIP so I'm saying that it will handle a 9600GT.
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March 22, 2010 2:01:54 PM

Only two models are available here
1. VIP 400EXE
2. VIP 500W GOLD

I dont see any thing like VIP 400 EXE,he said there is also a model called that.So ony way is to go with GOLD

And the CM 500W is 3500RS
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March 22, 2010 2:11:02 PM

and the 400w exe cost's 1250RS!I think this is the 500W GOLD

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March 22, 2010 2:23:27 PM

Get the VIP Gold.

It has 3 year warranty.
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March 22, 2010 2:24:40 PM

Ok,Thanks for the replies!
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March 22, 2010 6:01:08 PM

Aneesh@4GHz said:
Is this specs of VIP 500W GOLD?
http://www.erodov.com/forums/got-vip-500w/8458.html

It has only
12v1 = 15A
12v2 = 16A
Total 31amps,Is it ok?



I don't know whether it has dual rails with those ratings or not...
But if those are the ratings then it will suffice for a 9600GT.

BTW for multi rail PSU you don't just add the amps on different rails(Not equal to 31Amps,must be less than that).
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March 23, 2010 1:56:25 AM

Is this better than the CM 460?
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March 23, 2010 5:07:21 AM

Which one?
Real power - No!
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March 23, 2010 6:51:41 AM

Ok,Thanks.
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