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Did XFX 9600GT works with iBall generic 400w PSU with 17A on 12v rails?

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Reply to Aneesh@4GHz

I wouldn't do it. The 9600GT needs 8A for itself, and the CPU usually needs 95. Then there's HDD's and everything..
Get an HD5670. It'll use around 5a, leaving 12 for the CPU and everything else. Though if your CPU is a phenom ii or heavily overclocked, you're done.

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Its not for me,Its for my friend,His config is

Dual Core 2GHz
P5KPL AM PS(Going to buy this week)
XFX 9600GT 1Gb (Going to buy this week)
160GB seagate IDE hdd
Sony sata dvd-rw
and 2 80mm local case fans with the IBALL 400wat generic psu!

Reply to Aneesh@4GHz

wat abt mercury 450 watts psu with dual rail with 16/17 amps

Reply to Aneesh@4GHz

The answer is, you're probably right at the power supply's limit with that configuration. On my old system, I ran a dual core overclocked to 2.4 GHz, SATA DVD & HDD and several case-fans with my PNY 9600GT 1GB. I used a 430W Thermaltake TR2 (Newegg link here) and had zero problems even though that power supply wasn't even 80 plus certified, but it was because the PS had a lot of amps (29A) on the 12V rails. Make sure you have at least 25A on the 12V rail(s)... 20A at the bare minimum. I'm trying to find definitive info on your power supply, but I'm finding conflicting info... easiest thing to do is read the label on it. It probably has two 12V rails, so just add up the number of Amps for both. If it's at or below 20A (25A if you want to be sure), I wouldn't even try... just spend $30 on a decent low-end power supply (here's just one suggestion for $25, free shipping). Hope that helps.

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Aneesh@4GHz wrote :

Did XFX 9600GT works with iBall generic 400w PSU with 17A on 12v rails?

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Check it out solves any PSU questions follow my link!

http://educations.newegg.com/tool/ [...] calculator

Go to my link and type in the search bar on there: PSU calculator

Thanks.

Message edited by iholbrookv2 on 03-21-2010 at 06:57:22 AM

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He is ok for the PSu with 30$,But it is not available here,I am from Kollam,Kerala,India!

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Aneesh@4GHz wrote :

He is ok for the PSu with 30$,But it is not available here,I am from Kollam,Kerala,India!

Ya man I have a 580 Watt PSU running:

GTX 260

AMD Atholon 2 x 2 Dual core @ 3.0Ghz

3Gig's of Ram in Dual Channel @ 800Mhz

160Gig HDD

DVD Burner

WiFi Card B,G, and N

AM3 Gigabyte MotherBoard all on 580 Watts from newegg I only spent like $25 on.

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Reply to iholbrookv2

The problem is none of the PSUs your listing are of good quality. The parts inside of them, if they are even there, will be cheap. This means when stressed, the voltage might be out of range, or have a bad ripple. The Corsair 400W will power the 9600GT with ease, but an "iBall" 450W could have trouble.

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easiest thing to do is read the label on it. It probably has two 12V rails, so just add up the number of Amps for both.

Except it doesn't work that way. You can't just add the two (or more) numbers together to get the total output. Take my Delta based Earthwatts 500W PSU for example. "Two" 12v rails, each rated at 22A. According to you I should have 44A but I don't. There is a little note right beneath the PSU chart that says 12v1 and 12v2 can only output 408W at the same time. This comes out to 34A. Each rail by itself might be 22A, but the source feeding them both is only capable of sending 34A total. Another way to show thats wrong is that 44A x 12V = 528W, which is more then a 500W PSU can do.

The PSU you linked isn't any better then the ones he's suggested already. Has the red voltage selector switch, so its based on an old design. This is farther backed up by the use of an 80mm fan and 75% efficiency. It also has to much power available on the 3.3 and 5v rails, and no info on how much power is on the 12v1 and 12v2 rails total. I wouldn't use that PSU.

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Reply to 4745454b

iBall and Mercury PSU won't suffice.

These PSU can't even deliver 17A(Rated) for too long!!

Better get a new PSU.

This PSU will suffice:
http://www.primeabgb.com/index.php [...] &Itemid=53

400W or more Corsair, Antec, Seasonic PSU (If available ) will also be good options.

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Reply to shubham1401

Getting warmer. I would at least run that. Not sure about the quality however.

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Reply to 4745454b

I am ready to buy, but it is not available here,I am from Kollam,Kerala,India!

Reply to Aneesh@4GHz

What else is available where you are? We can list things all night, or you can tell us.

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4745454b wrote :

What else is available where you are? We can list things all night, or you can tell us.

True True! I can give you a list of every good power supply on newegg.com in your price range. So whats the amount your willing to spend?

To be honest most the veterans on this site are very true about what they say, but in my case I bought a cheap PSU off of newegg and scored, but I had to plug and pray that nothing bad would happen. You always take a chance when buying a PSU.

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Reply to iholbrookv2

Can you tell us which Brand is available out of these?

Corsair,Seasonic,Antec,Silverstone,FSP,Gigabyte,Tagan

If you have Coolermaster available then go for real power series not extreme power series.

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Reply to shubham1401

Only coolermaster is available here!they ask for 5000-6000RS for the 500W one!

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Anything else available?

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Nope!

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Aneesh@4GHz wrote :

Only coolermaster is available here!they ask for 5000-6000RS for the 500W one!

So they want about $125.00 US Dollars for that. Wow could you post a link?

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Reply to iholbrookv2

Okay,Look for Coolermaster Real Power Pro 460W.

Real Power series is much better than Extremepower and this unit is 80Plus certified.

Get this one.
Otherwise Buy online.

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Reply to shubham1401

iholbrookv2 wrote :

Wow could you post a link?

Which link?

Reply to Aneesh@4GHz

Ok,Guys ,I will search here every where for the CM RP PRO 460!

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Thank you all for ur replies!

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Aneesh@4GHz wrote :

Ok,Guys ,I will search here every where for the CM RP PRO 460!

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Thank you all for ur replies!

I was thinking that you could look on tigerdirect.com or newegg.com and find a PSU for your computer and then post the web address or link here and we can tell you if that would work well with your system.

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Reply to iholbrookv2

If you can't find anything good, just get something cheap? Pray it lasts long enough for you to save up more $$$ and get something good.

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4745454b wrote :

If you can't find anything good, just get something cheap? Pray it lasts long enough for you to save up more $$$ and get something good.

Agree.

Reply to iholbrookv2

Some more locally available cheap PSU...

VIP Silver 500W (Bluish casing) for Rs1700

Power Safe 500W Gold Rs 2250

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Reply to shubham1401

Ok,I will contact the retailer tomorrow,And will came back to the forum

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iholbrookv2 wrote :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817171028

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I don't know, Did it?

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4745454b wrote :

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easiest thing to do is read the label on it. It probably has two 12V rails, so just add up the number of Amps for both.

Except it doesn't work that way. You can't just add the two (or more) numbers together to get the total output. Take my Delta based Earthwatts 500W PSU for example. "Two" 12v rails, each rated at 22A. According to you I should have 44A but I don't. There is a little note right beneath the PSU chart that says 12v1 and 12v2 can only output 408W at the same time. This comes out to 34A. Each rail by itself might be 22A, but the source feeding them both is only capable of sending 34A total. Another way to show thats wrong is that 44A x 12V = 528W, which is more then a 500W PSU can do.

The PSU you linked isn't any better then the ones he's suggested already. Has the red voltage selector switch, so its based on an old design. This is farther backed up by the use of an 80mm fan and 75% efficiency. It also has to much power available on the 3.3 and 5v rails, and no info on how much power is on the 12v1 and 12v2 rails total. I wouldn't use that PSU. (Emphasis added by Gupeez).

Where did I say that adding the two numbers equals the total output? I just gave him a range of amperage that should be available on the 12V rails to run a dual-core and a 9600GT. We already know the OP has a system that requires maybe a 350W PSU. I'm just trying to find a cheap power supply for this guy that I know will work for his system. If he has a 400W+ PS with at least 20 to 25A on the 12V rails, it will power what I know his system to be. I stand by that.

Anyway, back to the OP. Looking on India's eBay, I see there's not a whole bunch of variety... although the iBall 400W is one of the models available for about $15. Why not just use two power supplies? Here's a link to the mods you'd do: here. I haven't done it, but it looks like fun.

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Aneesh@4GHz wrote :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817171028

Good Price, Looks Good, Nice 6-Pin, Efficiency > 70% thats pretty good as well so you'll be getting most of the power evenly from the PSU! I would just go this onw for now man.

COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-460-PMSR-A3 460W ATX12V V2.3 Power Supply - Retail $34.97

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 63938&SID=

Reply to iholbrookv2

Ewww.

Fine, then you implied thats the total output. You told him to add them together. There is no reason to do that. Period.

I thought someone said to avoid the xtreme power series? The one linked still looked like junk. It might be better then the "iball" or some others that have been mentioned.

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The retailer said VIP may be available!He will contact me after confirming its availability!

Reply to Aneesh@4GHz

VIP Silver 500W is a fine PSU.
Just check for the bluish casing one.
That's a good unit.

What about CM Real Power?

Avoid Extreme Power.

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Reply to shubham1401

The VIP 500W GOLD is 2100RS ,I am ok with that and can any one gave me the detailed specs of VIP 500W GOLD (Amps,Rails,Output ,etc)

Reply to Aneesh@4GHz

Try to find VIP Silver model which is for around Rs1700 with a blue color body.

Actually Silver models are better than their Gold models.
They even have active PFC(AFAIK)

If you can't find that then go with Gold.

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shubham1401 wrote :

This is what i was able to find for you

http://www.technostarry.com/hardwa [...] 0w-review/

Though not very informative.

I'd say go for it.

But nothing abt Amps !Did any one knows the amp rating?

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OOps..I was updating that post...

Try to find VIP Silver model which is for around Rs1700 with a blue color body.

Actually Silver models are better than their Gold models.
They even have active PFC(AFAIK)

If you can't find that then go with Gold.

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Aneesh@4GHz wrote :

But nothing abt Amps !Did any one knows the amp rating?

These VIP PSU are locally available only In India.
There is not much info even on net.
But people have run Cards upto HD4850 on 500W VIP so I'm saying that it will handle a 9600GT.

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Only two models are available here
1. VIP 400EXE
2. VIP 500W GOLD

I dont see any thing like VIP 400 EXE,he said there is also a model called that.So ony way is to go with GOLD

And the CM 500W is 3500RS

Reply to Aneesh@4GHz

and the 400w exe cost's 1250RS!I think this is the 500W GOLD

Message edited by Aneesh@4GHz on 03-22-2010 at 04:14:09 PM

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Best answer

Get the VIP Gold.

It has 3 year warranty.

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Ok,Thanks for the replies!

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Is this specs of VIP 500W GOLD?
http://www.erodov.com/forums/got-vip-500w/8458.html

It has only
12v1 = 15A
12v2 = 16A
Total 31amps,Is it ok?

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Aneesh@4GHz wrote :

Is this specs of VIP 500W GOLD?
http://www.erodov.com/forums/got-vip-500w/8458.html

It has only
12v1 = 15A
12v2 = 16A
Total 31amps,Is it ok?

I don't know whether it has dual rails with those ratings or not...
But if those are the ratings then it will suffice for a 9600GT.

BTW for multi rail PSU you don't just add the amps on different rails(Not equal to 31Amps,must be less than that).

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Reply to shubham1401

Is this better than the CM 460?

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Which one?
Real power - No!

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Ok,Thanks.

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