I found a card with SPDIF out. The sound blaster live mod # ct4830. First, No x64 win 7 drivers. That was problem # 1. problem #2 was that creative tries to convince people that out dated cards need to be replaced. They DENIED the SPDIF existed on this card like i wanted it to. They said it would basically only work with the front panel. LIE is a strong word. The technician probably just was oblivious, but still, it was there. I just installed XP pro x32 and now i have a dandy lan and HTPC. Thanks for your input guys. Its all appreciated.