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March 21, 2010 5:45:40 PM

I've been thinking lately that it would be slight overkill getting another ati 5770 for my system. What do you guys think?

Specs.

Q8300 OC'd to 3.2ghz
4 x 1GB DDR2 800
ati 5770 oc'd to 960c 1374mem
2 500gb hdd's
ocz modxstream 600w
foxconn ela mobo

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a c 235 U Graphics card
March 21, 2010 5:47:03 PM

what resolution are you playing at?
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March 21, 2010 5:49:42 PM

1440x900

I've been thinking if I should go up to a 24" monitor sometime later in the year.

I'm not too sure if it matters but the games I mostly play are Dirt 2, rFactor, TF2, Crysis Warhead, F1 2010 when that comes out and Bioshock 2
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a c 235 U Graphics card
March 21, 2010 6:02:28 PM

get the monitor first, then get the card

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a c 190 U Graphics card
March 21, 2010 6:32:19 PM

+1 ct1615.
For your current resolution the HD5770 should be more than enough and by the time you choose to upgrade the landscape will have changed considerably-Nvidia are releasing their own DX11 cards on the 25th of this month.
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March 22, 2010 2:50:04 PM

Well, I bought a 24" monitor at a really good deal. Should be here Wednesday. I wonder what kind of performance hit I'm going to take. Do you guys think it would be drastic?
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a c 147 U Graphics card
March 22, 2010 2:59:18 PM

From 1440x900 to 1920x1200 or 1920x1080? Either way, you will feel it. Think of it this way. Below are the actual number of pixels. If you go from your current res to 1920x1080 that is a 37.5% increase in pixels that your card now has to address.

1,296,000 (1440x900)
2,073,600 (1920x1080)
2,304,000 (1920x1200)
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a b U Graphics card
March 22, 2010 3:19:11 PM

mr2shim said:
Well, I bought a 24" monitor at a really good deal. Should be here Wednesday. I wonder what kind of performance hit I'm going to take. Do you guys think it would be drastic?

No, it will not take a performance hit. The single HD5770 should still be able to handle 1920x1080 ( if this is your monitor resolution? ). I got an HD4890 and I play Crysis Warhead in Enthusiast Setting at 1920x1080 and it runs very nice. The HD5770 performs only a little bit less than the HD4890 so I think you should still be able to play it at Gamer Setting at least. And certainly it will perform much better for lesser games.

In answer to your original question, yes, a 2nd HD5770 will already be an overkill for your original monitor 1440x900 but at 1920x1080 the 2nd card might come in handy. But there is no rush to buy it now.. try the single one with your new monitor and get a feel of how it will be... then you can decide...
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March 22, 2010 3:22:56 PM

It has a resolution of 1920 x 1080. I guess I better knock dirt 2 from x8 aa and everything on max back down to x4 aa and high settings when the monitor arrives. I was getting over 75fps with everything on high. I went to ultra and fps went down to low 40's.

I haven't played crysis in a few days. I'd be curious to see the difference.
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a c 147 U Graphics card
March 22, 2010 3:27:38 PM

Dirt2 you will have to turn down the settings. I game at 1680x1050 and use a 5870 and have to turn down the AA and such. It is DX11 so that will give it a little bit of hurt on your card. However, the 10.3 drivers state up to a 20% increase in Dirt2 for 5800 and 5700 cards. So we will see.

The 5770 is a mainstream card, I would expect moderate settings on most new games.
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a b U Graphics card
March 22, 2010 3:28:25 PM

Yeah- going from 1440x900 to 1920x1080 is a pretty big hit, but still not a breaker for a single 5770. I was gaming on a single 4870 (pretty much the same performance as the 5770) at 1920x1080 and was just fine with it. However- now that you have DX11 with tesselation and extra detail settings etc, it uses a TON more GPU power. Also- with Crysis, it can wreck just about any system. For Crysis and Dirt2 (with maxing in game settings) and other DX11 titles at 1920x1080, I would get the second 5770. I'm loving my 2x5750s:-)
Edit- I'm playing at 1920x1080 with my 2 5750's and I'm playing with Dirt2 maxed in-game settings, but I'm not forcing anything in the driver currently, and I'm getting frames averaging mid 70's.
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a b U Graphics card
March 22, 2010 3:29:08 PM

@mr2shim,
Low 40's is not bad. Anything above 30fps should still be good gameplay except if you got very keen eyes... :) 
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a b U Graphics card
March 22, 2010 3:46:21 PM

Randomkid- that was with his 1440x900 monitor though. pump that to 1920x1080, and those rates are gonna drop:-p
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March 22, 2010 8:40:17 PM

Thanks for the help guys. I think I might go with another 5770 within a couple months. May as well pick up a 1TB while I'm at it.
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a b U Graphics card
March 22, 2010 8:52:05 PM

Haha yeah- storage is getting so cheap these days, its hard not to get more:-) I'm wanting another external now since my wife pretty much confiscated my 1tb external, even though I have more than a TB internal storage with 2x320gb and 1x500gb and its not really close to full yet (using one of the 320's for my system backup). Enjoy and good luck man- another 5770 will crank you some really nice performance.
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March 22, 2010 8:52:29 PM

HD 5770 is far overkill for 1440x900.
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March 22, 2010 9:01:24 PM

Yea, I figured it was, when I'm getting 300+ FPS with rFactor F1 2009 WCP mod with everything MAXED. x16 AF... :lol: 
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a b U Graphics card
March 22, 2010 9:06:03 PM

Lol- yeah, though I think we already pretty well established that :-p
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a b U Graphics card
March 22, 2010 10:46:25 PM

flyinfinni said:
Randomkid- that was with his 1440x900 monitor though. pump that to 1920x1080, and those rates are gonna drop:-p


Yeah... yeah... I know... I mean it as a general term that fps > 30 should not be bad. Actually due to this, I checked reviews on my HD4890 to see what should be the fps for Crysis at 1920x1080 and found out it should be just in the 20's at enthusiast setting. I have enthusiast setting but I pretty much do not see any lagging when the fps should be just around 20fps. Well anyway I will see how it differs if I set it at gamers when I have the time.

By the way, can you set anything in Crysis to see the fps while playing?
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a c 147 U Graphics card
March 22, 2010 10:59:36 PM

A 5770 at 1440x900 in DX9 vs DX11 is going to be pretty good hit in performance. IF you were running Modern warefare 2 (dx9) vs Bad Company 2 (DX11) you would really be able to tell.
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a c 235 U Graphics card
March 22, 2010 11:02:52 PM

jay2tall said:
A 5770 at 1440x900 in DX9 vs DX11 is going to be pretty good hit in performance. IF you were running Modern warefare 2 (dx9) vs Bad Company 2 (DX11) you would really be able to tell.


apples to oranges in terms of games, BC2 requires better performance hardware but you are correct in terms of same game taking a hit going from DX 9 - 10- 11
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a b U Graphics card
March 23, 2010 12:16:56 AM

randomkid said:
Yeah... yeah... I know... I mean it as a general term that fps > 30 should not be bad. Actually due to this, I checked reviews on my HD4890 to see what should be the fps for Crysis at 1920x1080 and found out it should be just in the 20's at enthusiast setting. I have enthusiast setting but I pretty much do not see any lagging when the fps should be just around 20fps. Well anyway I will see how it differs if I set it at gamers when I have the time.

By the way, can you set anything in Crysis to see the fps while playing?


30 FPS is unplayable for many FPS's, and racing games want high FPS too, for online FPS like Combat Arms & CS:S many people need 60+FPS constantly, and many prefer 80-100+.
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a b U Graphics card
March 23, 2010 12:35:59 AM

sabot00 said:
30 FPS is unplayable for many FPS's, and racing games want high FPS too, for online FPS like Combat Arms & CS:S many people need 60+FPS constantly, and many prefer 80-100+.

I see what you mean... For high motion scenes yes it will certainly make a difference...
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a b U Graphics card
March 23, 2010 3:14:13 PM

Just as a point of interest- DX11 does NOT cause a performance hit. It is actually more efficient than DX9/DX10. (run the DX11 version of AvP vs. the DX9 version and you'll see a performance INCREASE- see HardOCP's review:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/22/aliens_vs_pre...
Where you see a performance HIT is when you enable the extra graphical features that DX11 has- tesselation, etc. These new features cause a performance hit, but improve graphical quality as well.
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March 30, 2010 12:11:14 AM

Well, I got my 23" monitor and I've been playing games with it, I haven't noticed any major decrease in performance with dirt 2 and rfactor + f1 WCP 2009 mod. I think the new 10.3 drivers did help a lot with dirt 2. I did a benchmark and the fps drop was only 10fps average which is great, it benched at 48fps average, which is playable for me. I didn't notice any lag or anything. I might hold off on the 5770 for crossfire for a little while.
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a b U Graphics card
March 30, 2010 4:06:43 PM



Thanks, CT. I wonder why I did not see this before... but instead found your same answer in another thread answering someone else's question. But I already downloaded it and was able to confirm that my HD4890 is doing less than 30fps on Crysis enthusiast setting so I down it to Gamer setting and now getting above 35fps.
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a b U Graphics card
March 30, 2010 4:11:01 PM

mr2shim said:
Well, I got my 23" monitor and I've been playing games with it, I haven't noticed any major decrease in performance with dirt 2 and rfactor + f1 WCP 2009 mod. I think the new 10.3 drivers did help a lot with dirt 2. I did a benchmark and the fps drop was only 10fps average which is great, it benched at 48fps average, which is playable for me. I didn't notice any lag or anything. I might hold off on the 5770 for crossfire for a little while.

Congratulations on your new monitor... Good call on holding off the second HD5770... You might be able to use the $ for something else in the future... although the 2nd HD5770 won't be bad idea too if you can not find anything else to spend money on.... :) 
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a b U Graphics card
March 30, 2010 4:17:51 PM

Hold off on the second 5770 until you hit a point where a single one isn't performing like you want it to. As long as you are enjoying the one you have, and its pushing the frame rates you are looking for, enjoy it!:-)
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