Thief Three. Performance issue.

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Have you tried disabling V-sync? As I've understood it...if it's enabled and
your monitor runs at 85Hz the game will run at that framerate, but once it
can't maintain that framerate it drops to half of 85fps to have it synced
with the monitor.



"Morgan Sales" <morgan.salesDIESPAMMER@ntlworld.com> skrev i meddelandet
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> I've just put together a new PC and though I'd play through Thief 3 again.
> Now my new system is fairly hefty so I thought I'd also install the
> high-res texture packs.
>
> I'm getting very odd performance. The game seems to run really well (80+
> FPS) for about half a second, then drops a load of frames for the other
> half of the second. Then runs really well for another half second and low
> frames again for another half second, and so on, and so on. This happens
> all the time (at least in the training mission) so It's not connected to
> what is actually being displayed. I've not tried without the -high-res
> texture packs yet. I'd though I'd check here first to see if anyone has
> experienced the same problem.
>
> My system:
>
> Athlon FX-55
> Radeon X850 XT
> 2 SATA 150 HDs in RAID 0
> 2 GB 3200 DDR RAM
> Nforce 4 motherboard
> SB Audigy 2
> Windows XP SP2
> All latest drivers
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Morgan.
> ----
> * We could have our own game; where people throw ducks at baloons and
> nothing's the way it seems...
>
>
>
>

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Halbermensch wrote:
> Have you tried disabling V-sync? As I've understood it...if it's
> enabled and your monitor runs at 85Hz the game will run at that
> framerate, but once it can't maintain that framerate it drops to half
> of 85fps to have it synced with the monitor.

No, it's not that. I've got V-Sync of by default. Thanks for taking the
trouble to reply though.

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----
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On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 11:46:01 -0000, "Morgan Sales"
<msales.DIESPAMMER@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Geneve wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 18:09:18 -0000 Morgan Sales said :
>>>
>>> I've just put together a new PC and though I'd play through Thief 3
>>> again.
>>
>> Everything runs real fast over here.
>
>Are you using the high-res texture packs?
>
>I'm about to try it without them installed.

Can't say they made any performance differences when I used them (several
months ago - maybe they're different now.)

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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 13:29:12 GMT, Albert Conklin <aconklin@satx.rr.com>
wrote:

> Where does one get the high-res texture packs? I am almost tempted to
>reinstall T3 just to check it out. It did not come with the game CD's
>did it?
> I have a Sapphire Radeon 9200, so it may not make a whole bunch of
>difference with me.

http://www.graphics-by-john-p.com/ [...] ndex.shtml


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"Albert Conklin" <aconklin@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Michael Cecil wrote:
>
> (snip)
>>
>> http://www.graphics-by-john-p.com/ [...] ndex.shtml
>>
>
> Checking out the comparisons, there are some
> improvements. One in the Misc. section it looks as though
> the door does not highlight. Does it mean you can't tell
> if it is frobbable or not? You have to sign up to
> Gamespot to be able to download them. Maybe after the T3
> FM's come out I will try and download them. Albert

Sign up ? If you can't bonk 'em on the head
and steal their stuff, it's not fun.

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"Michael Cecil" <macecil@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 14:04:12 GMT, Albert Conklin
> <aconklin@satx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Michael Cecil wrote:
>>
>>(snip)
>>>
>>> http://www.graphics-by-john-p.com/ [...] ndex.shtml
>>>
>>
>> Checking out the comparisons, there are some
>>improvements. One in the Misc. section it looks as though
>>the door does not highlight. Does it mean you can't tell
>> if it is frobbable or not? You have to sign up to
>>Gamespot to be able to download them. Maybe after the T3
>>FM's come out I will try and download them.
>>Albert
>
> Just go to http://www.filemirrors.com/, enter "johnp" and
> do a search.
>
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> Michael Cecil
> http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/
> http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/

You use GetRight ?

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"Michael Cecil" <macecil@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 18:52:26 -0700, "Mos" <Not@YourHouse>
> wrote:
>
>>You use GetRight ?
>>
> No, but I use filemirrors.com from time to time.

Thought you might use the program when I saw their
logo at the top of the page. Good program. Best
$20. I ever spent.

For those of you reading this that are unfamiliar with
GetRight, it's a downloading program. Handy since
you don't have to download the whole file all at once
and can do bits at a time. Much better than GoZilla.
It can be found at Tucows. Download of this
program is free (GetRight 5.2b). Subscription to
upgrades costs. I paid for it about 5 years ago and
get periodic upgrades.
(this has been an unpaid advertisement. Mos is in
no way affiliated with either GetRight nor Tucows.
The opinion is his and in no way reflects those of the
above mentioned web sites or program companies)

>
> --
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> http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/
> http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/

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"Albert Conklin" <aconklin@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Mos wrote:
>
>> "Michael Cecil" <macecil@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:1110090116.40db29faaa2e8aedef26aa131a455e9e@teranews
>>
>>>On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 18:52:26 -0700, "Mos" <Not@YourHouse>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>You use GetRight ?
>>>>
>>>
>>>No, but I use filemirrors.com from time to time.
>>
>>
>> Thought you might use the program when I saw their
>> logo at the top of the page. Good program. Best
>> $20. I ever spent.
>>
>> For those of you reading this that are unfamiliar with
>> GetRight, it's a downloading program. Handy since
>> you don't have to download the whole file all at once
>> and can do bits at a time. Much better than GoZilla.
>> It can be found at Tucows. Download of this
>> program is free (GetRight 5.2b). Subscription to
>> upgrades costs. I paid for it about 5 years ago and
>> get periodic upgrades.
>> (this has been an unpaid advertisement. Mos is in
>> no way affiliated with either GetRight nor Tucows.
>> The opinion is his and in no way reflects those of the
>> above mentioned web sites or program companies)
>>
>>
>>>--
>>>Michael Cecil
>>>http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/
>>>http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/
>>
>>
>>
> Any spyware or adware in GetRight?
> Albert

None that I've ever found nor noticed.
GetRight also lets you know when there is an update available.
About once a year they send out notices that if you should
wish to give an extra donation, they will accept it, but they
do not press the issue if you do not donate, nor does it
effect your upgrading.
The program tells you the size of the file, how fast it's
downloading, and aprox time left before completed. It will
also look for mirrors, if need be.
Right now, I'm downloading two of the files. It can be set to
keep going so when one file is finished, it takes up the next one.
Handy if you want to download while you run off to the store
or go outside and fire up the grill.

Grief, I sound like I should be a salesman for them.

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On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 11:46:01 -0000 Morgan Sales said :
>
>Geneve wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 18:09:18 -0000 Morgan Sales said :
>>>
>>> I've just put together a new PC and though I'd play through Thief 3
>>> again.
>>
>> Everything runs real fast over here.
>
>Are you using the high-res texture packs?
>
>I'm about to try it without them installed.
>

Yes I did add them.


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On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 19:12:25 -0600 Michael Cecil said :
>
>On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 14:04:12 GMT, Albert Conklin <aconklin@satx.rr.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Michael Cecil wrote:
>>
>>(snip)
>>>
>>> http://www.graphics-by-john-p.com/ [...] ndex.shtml
>>>
>>
>> Checking out the comparisons, there are some improvements. One in the
>>Misc. section it looks as though the door does not highlight. Does it
>>mean you can't tell if it is frobbable or not?
>> You have to sign up to Gamespot to be able to download them. Maybe
>>after the T3 FM's come out I will try and download them.
>>Albert
>
>Just go to http://www.filemirrors.com/, enter "johnp" and do a search.
>

Sounds like a possible place to go.........


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"I suggest you go to http://www.timdoc.com"

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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 13:34:28 GMT, Albert Conklin <aconklin@satx.rr.com>
wrote:

> If I recall, I passed on the higher card because of the slots I had
>in my new computer. I think it was only a 4 bit instead of an 8 bit
>slot. Or something like that.
>Albert

Generally an 8x AGP card will work fine in a 4x AGP slot. There is really
only a miniscule difference in performance. You need to do benchmarking
to even notice it. It's more of a marketing thing the video card makers
were hyping.
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"Geneve" <a@n.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 19:12:25 -0600 Michael Cecil said :
>>
>>On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 14:04:12 GMT, Albert Conklin
>><aconklin@satx.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Michael Cecil wrote:
>>>
>>>(snip)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.graphics-by-john-p.com/ [...] ndex.shtml
>>>>
>>>
>>> Checking out the comparisons, there are some
>>>improvements. One in the Misc. section it looks as
>>>though the door does not highlight. Does it mean you
>>> can't tell if it is frobbable or not? You have to
>>>sign up to Gamespot to be able to download them. Maybe
>>>after the T3 FM's come out I will try and download them.
>>>Albert
>>
>>Just go to http://www.filemirrors.com/, enter "johnp" and
>>do a search.
>>
>
> Sounds like a possible place to go.........

Worked for me.

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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 08:53:38 -0600 Michael Cecil said :
>
>You need to do benchmarking
>to even notice it. It's more of a marketing thing the video card makers
>were hyping.

Yeah I have a 8x card. No big thrill here.

All I know is I can play some of the higher end games now.


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"Geneve" <a@n.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 02:28:55 GMT Albert Conklin said :
>>
>> I hear you guys loud and clear. :-)
>
> Funny.
>
> I dont hear a thing.
>
> Can you please step out on to the side walk
>
> and yell as loud as you can ?
>
> Yell Thief 8 or 9 times so I can hear you please...

I'd rather whisper in your ear.....


>
>
>
>
>
> Geneve
>
>
> --
> "If confused why this or that is going on."
> "I suggest you go to http://www.timdoc.com"

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Geneve wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 11:46:01 -0000 Morgan Sales said :
>>
>> Geneve wrote:
>>> On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 18:09:18 -0000 Morgan Sales said :
>>>>
>>>> I've just put together a new PC and though I'd play through Thief 3
>>>> again.
>>>
>>> Everything runs real fast over here.
>>
>> Are you using the high-res texture packs?
>>
>> I'm about to try it without them installed.
>>
>
> Yes I did add them.

Odd. My graphics card is one of the faster ones on the market at the moment,
of course it is possible that the game just doesn't like it.

I've just done a software rebuild and I've reinstalled T3 but no texture
packs yet. It's working fine with no texture packs now. I'll try it again.

Thanks for the reply.

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----
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Martin

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On 8 Mar 2005 08:23:20 -0800, Geneve <a@n.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:51:21 -0700 Mos said :
>>
>>I'd rather whisper in your ear.....
>>
>
>Chicken. lol

You want him to whisper "Chicken" in your ear?!?

That is some weird Thief fliration fetish stuff you've got going on there.

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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 12:11:41 -0700, "Mos" <Not@YourHouse> wrote:

>
>
>"Michael Cecil" <macecil@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:1110306779.ac72a170a14a4004cfa7f78fdd9c34b3@teranews
>> On 8 Mar 2005 08:23:20 -0800, Geneve <a@n.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:51:21 -0700 Mos said :
>>>>
>>>>I'd rather whisper in your ear.....
>>>>
>>>
>>>Chicken. lol
>>
>> You want him to whisper "Chicken" in your ear?!?
>>
>> That is some weird Thief fliration fetish stuff you've
>> got going on there.
>
>And you're making it difficult for me to bonk her
>on the head if you keep making chicken noises.

I fully expect her character in the game to make chicken noises now.

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"Michael Cecil" <macecil@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 12:11:41 -0700, "Mos" <Not@YourHouse>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Michael Cecil" <macecil@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:1110306779.ac72a170a14a4004cfa7f78fdd9c34b3@teranews
>>> On 8 Mar 2005 08:23:20 -0800, Geneve <a@n.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 07:51:21 -0700 Mos said :
>>>>>
>>>>>I'd rather whisper in your ear.....
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Chicken. lol
>>>
>>> You want him to whisper "Chicken" in your ear?!?
>>>
>>> That is some weird Thief fliration fetish stuff you've
>>> got going on there.
>>
>>And you're making it difficult for me to bonk her
>>on the head if you keep making chicken noises.
>
> I fully expect her character in the game to make chicken
> noises now.

Not sure if I could do that.
At least I've got her drunk and on the inn balcony.


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> http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/
> http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/