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April 12, 2010 10:30:04 AM

Hey.

Priority Apps: 3ds Max 2010 (maybe 2011) ZBrush 3.5, Photoshop CS4.
Other: Gaming
Budget: £500-700 (ideally, but more if need be)

What should my focus be on for a good machine here: CPU & Memory, or a good GFX card? I've just been looking at CPU benchmarks and I think I'll go for either the Phenom 955/965 or the i5 750. I just don't know if the extra £30-40 for the i5 750 is worthwhile.

Advice please. :D 

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April 12, 2010 11:18:48 AM

Operating system: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64, Microsoft Windows Vista Business x64 (SP2 or higher), or Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 (SP2 or higher)

For general animation and rendering (typically fewer than 1,000 objects or 100,000 polygons):

Intel 64 or AMD 64 processor with SSE2 technology*
4 GB RAM (8 GB recommended)
4 GB swap space (8 GB recommended)**
3 GB free hard drive space
Direct3D 10, Direct3D 9, or OpenGL-capable graphics card† (256 MB or higher video card memory, 1 GB recommended)
Three-button mouse with mouse driver software
DVD-ROM drive††
Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.0 or higher or Mozilla Firefox 2.0 or higher browser
Internet connection for web downloads and Autodesk Subscription-aware access
For large scenes and complex data sets (typically more than 1,000 objects or 100,000 polygons):

Intel® 64 or AMD64 processor with SSE2 technology*
8 GB RAM
8 GB swap space**
3 GB free hard drive space
Direct3D 10, Direct3D 9, or OpenGL-capable graphics card† (1 GB or higher video card memory)
Three-button mouse with mouse driver software
DVD-ROM drive††
Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.0 or higher or Mozilla Firefox 2.0 or higher browser)
Internet connection for web downloads and Autodesk Subscription-aware access
April 12, 2010 11:25:37 AM


That is a very low budget ... You *could* spend $12K on a preferred config ...

I really think an i7-930 is going to serve you best ... 6GB RAM should be OK

Graphics Subsystem is where the really difficult decisions must be made . . .
You definately want to go with nVidia, here ... QuadroFX1800 or FX540 or PNY 250 or 9800GT or GT220 ... The most you can afford !

= Alvin =
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April 12, 2010 11:51:38 AM

Thanks for the response Alvin.

To put things in perspective; I'm going to be learning 3d on this machine so it doesn't need to be super powerful becuase the work I'll be doing on it won't be too demanding. The i7 930 is simply too expensive, and probably not necessary. I might begin with just 4gb of ram first and see how that goes for awhile. I can always add more later. And I was looking at the GeForce GTS 250 (1024mb). I just had a look at those Quadro cards, they seem very expensive...I don't need top-of-the-range just, sufficient. ;) 

Is the i5 750 an intel 64? :( 

I'm also confused as to what motherboard to get. How do I tell which one's better for my needs? I've only been judging them on their price tags so far...I know that it needs the right socket for my cpu but everything besides that in the specs is just gibberish.
April 12, 2010 12:15:44 PM

Socket 1156 is definately NOT the way to go ... As a socket ... as a cardbuss ... sucks ... but the proc you would want would be an i7-860 ... not an i5-750 (gamer).

Naw ... I DO think I get you now.

Socket AM3 890GX Chipset mobo by Gigabyte, ASUS, or MSI
Phenom-II x4Core 3.2Ghz 955 Black Edition @
Unanimous Choice for performance AIR COOLER
4GB of Faster OC RAM 2x2GB DDR3 1600 CAS7 Dual Channel Kit
PNY 250GT 1GB GDDR3 Graphics
SpinPoint F3 500GB HDD
ASUS DVDR
CORSAIR 500-650 PSU
Antec 300 Illusion

Should I paste the links ?



April 12, 2010 1:47:50 PM

ok so scrap the 1156 and go for amd. thanks for the specs, and this computer would be the best fit for my requirements?

you could post links but i'm finding the parts at novatech.co.uk.

i'm still unsure about the motherboard and ram though. I searched am3 890gx which gave me 3 options: here

there's little price difference but how do they differ: which is best? the dearest?

and then the ram. do i want triple channel, 1866mhz, 1333mhz, or 1066mhz?

I've found the hard-drive, which seems like a good price: here

now, i'm a bit concerned about the psu, the corsair ones are quite expensive the 450w from £60 to the 650x at £95! I was expecting to pay pretty much half than that for the psu.

the case might actually be the one i was already looking at: here the only thing I'm concerned about is that the psu is bottom-mounted and I've read in some of the reviews that it has been difficult to connect the psu to the motherboard due to its position.

and I couldn't find the specific pny card but i was looking at this one: here which is maybe the same chip :??:  but just a different manufacturer. I don't know if the names of things might be a bit different if you're in the states.

thanks a lot.
April 12, 2010 7:33:19 PM

One note, for AMD, you want to go with dual-channel RAM. Triple channel is currently only for Intel socket 1366.

As long as you get a number of sticks divisible by 2, you're fine.
April 13, 2010 9:31:55 AM

huge thanks for the help alvin. I'll get all that together and see how it looks. all-in-all i'm looking at around £800.
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