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December 22, 2010 3:56:51 PM

I recently asked about these 2 sets of memory and was basically told they were the same.
I am now ready to buy and have discovered a few differances about the 2.

This set has Corsairs newer black heatsink spreaders.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/6gb-(3x2gb)-corsair-xms3-ddr3-pc3-12800-(1600)-240-pin-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-9-9-9-24-165v

This set support Intels XMP but has the older heatspreaders.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/plus-6gb-(3x2gb)-corsair-xms3-ddr3-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-9-9-9-24-165v

I've read a bit about XMP but never used it, is it a good feature or is manual oc'ing still the way to go?

They are about the same price with the same timings and I am assuming they will OC the same so the question is which ones do you go for and why, they are going in an Asus P6X58D-E with an i7 950.

Thanks.

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a b } Memory
December 22, 2010 4:15:51 PM

If you are going to OC memory, something that I don't recommend as the performance gained often simply isn't worth it in terms of increases versus headaches with stability, then manual configuring is the way to go. I recommend you go with the cheaper of the 2 and drive on. Good luck!
December 22, 2010 4:29:40 PM

Ok, so they are the same price would you take the newer heatsinks or the XMP capable sticks?

If the XMP settings work doesn't that remove the headache of stability?

Thanks.
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a b } Memory
December 22, 2010 4:34:32 PM

XMP is fairly modest in what it will attempt. Go for the XMP.
a b } Memory
December 22, 2010 4:48:20 PM

I forgot to mention to make sure your mobo supports XMP profiles. Enjoy!
a c 347 } Memory
December 22, 2010 4:54:37 PM

The CMX6GX3M3A1600C9 is the newer version of the older TR3X6G1600C9.

XMP is a dual edge sword and in most instances is limited to the first set of RAM, and the CAS will be set correctly. The other side is if the BIOS doesn't recognize the XMP correctly you get post failure or a host of other oddball problems. You'll still need to manually set the Speed and should set the DRAM Voltage if you're OC'ing the CPU.

In most instances since I need to set most everything, I disable XMP and manually set the RAM.

For your MOBO I would recommend the Corsair Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D 1600MHz 8-8-8-24-2T @ 1.65v. Corsair Tested -> http://www.corsair.com/configurator/product_results.asp...
December 22, 2010 5:29:45 PM

Yeah the Dominator is around £110 which is £40 more than the other.

So out of the 2 you would go for the newer set with the black heatspreaders without XMP.

Why then, if its the newer version have they not included XMP with it when it was on the older set??

Hang on, says here it does have XMP, so I'll just get the newer version then.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY...
a b } Memory
December 22, 2010 5:39:40 PM

XMP is more of a marketing gimmick than an actual capability (my opinion only). You can squeeze more from manual settings than XMP will do on its own. I personally would use another brand altogether, such as G-Skill or Adata. You get good performance for less cost.

Such as these:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/G-Skill-6GB-1600MHz-PC12800-DDR...
December 22, 2010 5:52:27 PM

Well I'm not a fan of auto clocking usually anyways, prefer to do the tinkering myself.

The set you listed seem to be £30 more with the same timings or are you saying they are better clockers?
a b } Memory
December 22, 2010 6:07:50 PM

"Better clockers" is subjective to a bunch of factors. I am using G-Skill, Adata, and Corsair memory. Of the 3 brands, I am happiest with the G-Skill and I have been able to get the most from them when I tinkered with the settings.

However, once I tinker, I always return my memory to stock settings. OCing memory just doesn't produce the same sorts of performance increases you see with CPU and GPU OCing. And, you can make your overall system flaky with the least little config issue with OCed memory.

Here is my best advice, all of these brands are okay. Get the best bang for your buck (pound) and be sure you buy a product with a lifetime warranty. All discussed will meet your needs. Save some geld and have fun in the process!
December 22, 2010 6:30:36 PM

Tell me about it, many hours of changing every setting on DDR then benching, then running hours of testing, for what.? Thats right..14 more points on 3DMark and a .22GB/s increase on Sandra. :lol: 

I guess my best performance option is to buy the memory with the tighter stock timings if thats what I'm after.
They do the 7-8-7-20 timings set for £100.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/6gb-(3x2gb)-corsair-xms3-classic-ddr3-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-7-8-7-20-xmp-165v

I'm still messing around with DDR2 and have found that the performance increase after hours of tinkering is noticable but makes me ask if it was worth all the time and headscratching.

Hopefully a 950 @4ghz+ and 6 gig of ram will give me the boost I'm looking for without the headache.

But I do like tinkering. :na: 

Thanks.
a c 347 } Memory
December 23, 2010 12:38:28 PM

If you're planning to OC 4GHz+ then you need RAM with good heat spreaders. Also, 4GHz typically performs better with 1800 MHz or 2000 MHz RAM. You get what you pay for, and hot RAM is unstable.
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