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May 23, 2012 8:45:27 PM

I am getting the Samsung 830 128GB SSD in the next couple of days. I bought it on Newegg and it is being shipped as of right now. i have a couple of questions though before it gets here, how do install Windows 7 that is currently on my hdd? I want my Windows 7 to be on my SSD for faster boot times and programs etc. Also how can I install certain games from Steam to my SSD and the others to my hdd? Thanks in advance!

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a b $ Windows 7
a c 99 G Storage
May 23, 2012 9:01:14 PM

A fresh install of Windows to the SSD is best. You need the installation disk.

Unplug the HDD during install, or you will have conflicts b/t the SSD and HDD. plug in back in once installed, and you have a desktop again.

Install everything to the SSD. Don't you want faster access/loads for everthing?

You can install Steam games to the HDD, there are threads in here about that.

Once the OS is installed to the SSD, you can then move stuff from the HDD to the SSD (Contacts, Favorties, etc. in the User folder).

Use the HDD as a data/media drive for your Libraries (i.e My Docs, Music, Pictures, etc.) There are other threads in here about that too.
a b G Storage
May 23, 2012 9:05:19 PM

You can install windows 7 on your ssd if you unplug the hdd from the motherboard. There are a small number of things you must do before installing windows 7, please refer to Sean's Windows 7 install and Optimization guide for SSD (can google that not too sure if I can refer other website links).

In regards to Steam, You have the option to move games not necessarily install games in either hard drive using Steam Mover. Or you have the option of installing steam in either hard drive. But most of your games will install where you installed steam.
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May 24, 2012 1:22:21 AM

I am going to do a fresh install of Windows when I get my SSD, although I still have a couple of question before trying anything. What exactly do I have to do before unplugging my hdd? After that, when I plug in my SSD and install Windows, will it recognize that I am re-installing the same Windows 7 or will I have to buy a whole new Windows 7 package? Thanks.
a b $ Windows 7
a c 353 G Storage
May 24, 2012 1:40:12 AM

(1) You can use your current windows disk to install, no need to buy a new one. If it is an Upgrade copy, You must use custom install and DO NOT insert key, and 1either install twice (not my recommendation since this is an SSD), or do a simple registry edit followed by running a does cmd.

(2) before removing the HDD and installing the SSD, FIRST verify that your HDD was set up using AHCI. If it was installed with the BIOS set to IDE you may have a problem seeing the HDD.
SEE: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976

(3) reason for above: Once you have removed the HDD and installed the SSD and you power on to install win 7, you need to enter your bios and verify (or set) the HDD to AHCI.
May 24, 2012 1:47:18 AM

When I first built my Gaming Rig I bought a fresh copy of Windows 7 Home Premium so it is not an upgrade copy. How can I verify that my hdd was set up using AHCI? I dont really remember how I installed my Windows lol so Im not really sure what your asking :/ 
a b G Storage
May 24, 2012 4:24:06 AM

According to your specs, it seems you have a gigabyte motherboard, during post it usually shows the keys associated with BIOS, boot or such. My motherboard shows DEL (delete key) to enter into BIOS. Once in BIOS you can look for SATA controllers and change IDE to AHCI, if its not already changed.
a b $ Windows 7
a c 353 G Storage
May 24, 2012 12:06:57 PM

Yes to enter Bios, just hit the <Del> key during post. (I usally hit it several times.
You should see either IDE, AHCI, or Raid as the controller. IDE = Bad, Raid (But no raid0 or 1) is OK for an Intel MB, AHCI - Hopefully this is what it is set to. If IDE, just change (AFTER doing fix in registry).
a b $ Windows 7
a c 99 G Storage
May 24, 2012 4:59:21 PM

Quote:
...please refer to Sean's Windows 7 install and Optimization guide for SSD


Here is the link: Sean's Windows 7 Install & Optimization Guide for SSDs & HDDs

Take it great! I WAS is the process of writing a sticky for THG, but that one is way better than I could have done!

I always suggest these website for SSD users:

The SSD Review - The SSD Optimization Guide

OCZ Blog - SSD tips & Tweaks

You don't have to do them all, or any. They are just tips. But several will save you drive space, and some will speed up the OS for a SSD.
May 24, 2012 8:45:21 PM

RetiredChief said:
(1) You can use your current windows disk to install, no need to buy a new one. If it is an Upgrade copy, You must use custom install and DO NOT insert key, and 1either install twice (not my recommendation since this is an SSD), or do a simple registry edit followed by running a does cmd.
.


Chief,

I'm just getting ready to put in an SSD and install Win 7. Could you be more specific on what to do with an Upgrade copy or point me to where I can find that info.

For the SSD, the reg change and the bios change are done.

Thanks,
a b $ Windows 7
a c 353 G Storage
May 24, 2012 9:03:54 PM

YOU MUST OWN a valid, qualifying OS for the Computer you are using the upgrade win 7 on, just does not have to be on SSD else it is illegal.

Since you do not have an INSTALLED OS you must select custom instal and DO NOT enter your key when prompted to.
Quote from Maximum PC: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/howtos/how_use_your_wi...
(1) A true geek has never been intimidated by the registry, but lets face it, it's a mess in there. To access the registry you will first need to open up the start menu and type "regedit" into the search field, followed by enter. To find the proverbial needle in this haystack, you will need to navigate through the tabs listed on the left in the following order:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE/ . If you don't like doing it the hard way just click Edit then Find and type MediaBootInstall into the search field, and press enter.
Once found, double click MediaBootInstall and change the "1" to a "0". Once you have finished this, simply click Ok and close out the Registry Editor.

(2) Before we try to activate our copy of Windows, we need to reset or "Re-Arm" the activation sequence. To do this, simply open up the start menu and type cmd but instead of just pressing enter, you need to press "Ctrl" + "Shift" + "Enter" to run it as an administrator. You can also accomplish this by clicking the start menu, typing cmd into the search box, then right clicking the command prompt application and selecting Run as administrator.
Once the command prompt appears type slmgr /rearm and press enter. Next simply type Exit and hit enter again, after which it will ask you to restart your machine.
End quote:

With in the 30 days you must activate, at this time ENTER your Windows 7 key.
May 24, 2012 9:27:07 PM

Okay so I entered in to my Bios and my on chip SATA type was Native IDE. I had the option to change it to AHCI but before you said to do it "AFTER doing fix in registry" - what does that mean? Should I do it now or what?
a b $ Windows 7
a c 353 G Storage
May 24, 2012 9:41:01 PM

If you change it in Bios BEFORE the registry edit You will NOT be able to boot into windows as windows will have the WRONG driver.
You must first edit the registry to change it from the pci to ahci (This does NOT take effect untill you reboot) per the uSoft link in my first post. Once the regisrty has been modified, you then reboot -> Bios and make the Bios change, save and reboot this time windows should load and your home free.
May 24, 2012 9:45:12 PM

You said that was for people with the Windows 7 upgrade, mine is not an upgrade, it is the full version. Did I just read it wrong or do I still have to do this with the full version of Windows?
a b G Storage
May 24, 2012 9:52:55 PM

The BIOS change (IDE -> AHCI) is referred to all SSD and HDD installations of Windows 7 when using the drives as SATA using SATA cables
May 24, 2012 9:53:51 PM

Should I set this up now or wait until I get my SSD?
a b G Storage
May 24, 2012 10:00:03 PM

Wait to get your SSD, then only plug SSD and no other hard drives, go into bios and change the BIOS settings, insert Win 7 disk, and install windows 7.
May 24, 2012 10:02:46 PM

If I do that, will I even have to fix the registry, or can I just plug the SSD in?
May 24, 2012 10:09:40 PM

Is this a good video on what I need to do?
a b G Storage
May 24, 2012 10:09:55 PM

No, the change you make into bios will be made into your new win 7 installation. Make sure your computer is off when plugging in your SSD drive. You can check if your SSD is in AHCI mode. You can do this when you are at your desktop in Win7. Start->Right-click Computer->At the top left should be Device Manager->Click on little triangle IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers-> Look for SATA AHCI or AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller (if you see this then it is turned on and working)

Come back and post when you are using your SSD.
a b G Storage
May 24, 2012 10:13:43 PM

Not too sure about a video. But its fairly easy to do a BIOS change in a gigabyte motherboard. Just press Delete when you see the Gigabyte logo when you first turn on your computer. Then go to integrated peripherals or (wherever SATA controllers are) and change all settings to AHCI.

You only use the arrow keys (to move around), Enter (to select options), Esc (to exit menu, F10 to save
May 24, 2012 10:16:40 PM

Should I change this for my hdd right now while it is plugged in? Or only with my SSD in? Better yet, what do I need to do before unplugging my hdd and plugging in my SSD?
a b G Storage
May 24, 2012 10:18:33 PM

No, the changes now would require a registry change. As said before, wait for your SSD and follow all the things that was said.

I have also said before, that you only have your SSD plugged and NO other hard drives when installing win 7.
May 24, 2012 10:27:14 PM

Okay so just to get this straight :D 
1.) Turn off my Computer.
2.) Unplug my HDD and plug in my SSD.
3.) Enter my BIOS and change SATA Controller to AHCI.
4.) Save changes and exit.
5.) Put my Windows 7 Installation disk in.
6.) Install Windows.
7.) Plug HDD back in?

Hopefully that is right :D  Oh and when installing my Windows 7, do I select upgrade or custom installation? Also do I type in the same activation number that I did when I first installed Windows 7? Thanks.
a b G Storage
May 24, 2012 10:35:48 PM

Penley54 said:
Okay so just to get this straight :D 
1.) Turn off my Computer.
2.) Unplug my HDD and plug in my SSD.
3.) Enter my BIOS and change SATA Controller to AHCI.
4.) Save changes and exit.
5.) Put my Windows 7 Installation disk in.
6.) Install Windows.
7.) Check if SATA is turned on by going to Start->Right-click Computer->At the top left should be Device Manager->Click on little triangle IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers-> Look for SATA AHCI or AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller (if you see this then it is turned on and working)
8.) Turn off computer
9.) Plug HDD back in

Hopefully that is right :D  Oh and when installing my Windows 7, do I select upgrade or custom installation? Also do I type in the same activation number that I did when I first installed Windows 7? Thanks.


I fixed the steps for you. Since you said it was a retail disk (not upgrade), install it normally. And one more thing, in your BIOS, make sure your boot order is from CD ROM. Very easy to find. Then after installation you can change back the boot order to Hard Drive
May 24, 2012 10:46:25 PM

Sorry lol but by installing normal, what option do I pick? Custom installation or upgrade? This is my first time installing Windows my self, last time my friend did it for me :/ 
a b G Storage
May 24, 2012 10:50:45 PM

No problem, choose Normal installation. I know this is a lot because there are a lot of steps. Here is newly revised step procedure for you so that you don't get lost with all of these posts.

1.) Turn off Computer.
2.) Unplug HDD and plug in SSD.
3.) Enter BIOS and change all SATA Controllers to AHCI. Also, change boot order to CD ROM
4.) Save changes and exit.
5.) Put Windows 7 Installation disk in.
6.) Install Windows.
7.) Check if SATA is turned on by going to Start->Right-click Computer->At the top left should be Device Manager->Click on little triangle IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers-> Look for SATA AHCI or AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller (if you see this then it is turned on and working)
8.) Turn off computer
9.) Plug HDD back in
10.) Turn on computer. Go to BIOS, change boot order back to Hard Drive. *Also check BOOT PRIORITY is from your SSD* (in BIOS)
May 24, 2012 11:02:36 PM

Okay and is there anything else I need to do after that?
May 24, 2012 11:42:22 PM

Okay, thanks again for revising this for me :D  I will let you guys know how it goes. Hopefully it comes in tomorrow!
May 24, 2012 11:47:06 PM

RetiredChief said:
YOU MUST OWN a valid, qualifying OS for the Computer you are using the upgrade win 7 on, just does not have to be on SSD else it is illegal.

Since you do not have an INSTALLED OS you must select custom instal and DO NOT enter your key when prompted to.
Quote from Maximum PC: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/howtos/how_use_your_wi...
(1) A true geek has never been intimidated by the registry, but lets face it, it's a mess in there. To access the registry you will first need to open up the start menu and type "regedit" into the search field, followed by enter. To find the proverbial needle in this haystack, you will need to navigate through the tabs listed on the left in the following order:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE/ . If you don't like doing it the hard way just click Edit then Find and type MediaBootInstall into the search field, and press enter.
Once found, double click MediaBootInstall and change the "1" to a "0". Once you have finished this, simply click Ok and close out the Registry Editor.

(2) Before we try to activate our copy of Windows, we need to reset or "Re-Arm" the activation sequence. To do this, simply open up the start menu and type cmd but instead of just pressing enter, you need to press "Ctrl" + "Shift" + "Enter" to run it as an administrator. You can also accomplish this by clicking the start menu, typing cmd into the search box, then right clicking the command prompt application and selecting Run as administrator.
Once the command prompt appears type slmgr /rearm and press enter. Next simply type Exit and hit enter again, after which it will ask you to restart your machine.
End quote:

With in the 30 days you must activate, at this time ENTER your Windows 7 key.


Thanks Chief,

Yes my windows dvd is a legal upgrade version which was no problem when I had my XP version installed but now there will be no other version on the clean SSD. I remember numerous descriptions of how to do this back when win 7 came out but they weren't of interest at the time.

On a more sad note after the reg update and the bios update my external sata drive is no longer recognized.
During boot up I'm getting a ODD0: \NDC DTD\RT LD,3400AD

Over in the Device Driver listing there are two ATA channels that show "This device cannot start (Code 0)

Anyone have any idea how to fix this?

My apologies for being off topic in this thread.



a b $ Windows 7
a c 353 G Storage
May 25, 2012 12:23:08 AM

Boltface , recommend starting your own thread this is getting confusing to thew person who started this thread..

@penley54
NO You do not have to select custom install when using the full windows version.
Custom install is used for the reasons:
1) you need to load a driver so that windows will recognize the HDD.
2) When using an upgrade win 7 installation disk to do a "Clean" install.
3) You need to go to the page that diaplays your SSD or HDD so that you can delete/create partitions PRIOR to installing windows.

IF NONE of the above applies, just use the "normal" install - Same as with a HDD, just remember AHCI before win 7 install on SSD.

And yes I recommend that you convert your HDD from IDE -> Sata prior to doing your SSD, IF YOU want to dual boot to your OLD OS on the HDD for a couple of weeks until you are satisfied that the SSD is fine. IF You do Not want this, don't bother UNLESS you have a problem with the HDD, inwhich case you can do as an after the fact.
May 25, 2012 12:26:28 AM

So your saying that if I change my hdd to AHCI, I can dual boot my old Windows 7?
a b G Storage
May 25, 2012 12:30:29 AM

Penley54,

Just keep it simple. I do not recommend a dual boot. RetiredChief is correct about doing a normal install compared to a custom install.
May 25, 2012 12:33:19 AM

I would rather not do the dual-boot anyway... so just keep my hdd the way it is and when my SSD gets here just follow the steps?
a b G Storage
May 25, 2012 12:36:32 AM

Indeed, when all is said and done, you will be able to access your HDD and grab important files that you may have in there (it will have your old windows files in there but it will not interfere with your SSD).
May 25, 2012 12:38:53 AM

Sounds great! Thanks again to everybody for helping me! I will let you guys know what happens and how it goes after I install my SSD. Thanks again!
a b $ Windows 7
a c 353 G Storage
May 25, 2012 12:41:39 AM

YES, and very easy if your MB has a key that you hit during the Post that brings up a boot menu
This is NOT the software dual boot than can hose you up later!!
Try it with your current set-up. During the Post (BEFORE mesage starting loading OS) Hit F12. You should see a list with your current HDD, your CD/DVD drive and possibly some others.

I've got the 3 Intel gigabyte, an E6400, a i5-750, and i5-2500k, The E6400 being the oldest. I loaded Windows XP on it, disconnected the HDD, installed a 2nd HDD and put Vista on it, then disconnected that drive and installed Windows 7 RC (beforewindows was available in stores).
With all three HDDs connected I set the Boot priority to boot into vista. When I powered on it would boot into Vista, But if I wanted to boot to XP, or windows 7, when I turned the computer on during the Post if I hit F12 as soon as the post finished it would bring up a boot menu showing ALL bootabvle HDDs and I could say select XP and it would boot to XP - And you can still see and read/write to the other three drives. THIS is Better than a software boot manager.

Done with XP, I would just hit restart and computer would boot back into vista, unless I again hit F12.
May 26, 2012 10:58:11 PM

Hey guys, got my SSD today and everything went well, I am on it as I type this! I just want to say thanks again to everybody that helped! I have a question though. How do I select where certain Steam games install to? For example, I want MW3 to install to my hdd so I dont use up space on my SSD, but I want Arma 2 on my SSD... how do I set those games on those drives?
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