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April 19, 2010 12:01:44 PM

My son wants a computer for his 11th birthday and is willing to give up a party so I caved. I have parts in mind but I figured I give the pros a shot. It is so confusing with all the combo deals and packages. I have CPU AMD 720, 500 watt power supply and monitor so that is taken care of. I also have a copy of Windows XP but will likely go with Win 7 home just to make life simpler in the future. The key concern is upgradeability. In the years down the road I know he will want Crossfire and bigger and faster everything so the MB is the most important thing.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Sons birthday May 25th (purchase this week)

BUDGET RANGE: 400 - 500 Before Rebates without OS

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: CPU, I have a AMD PII 720 BE(upgrading our main computer to a 955 or 965 so he gets a hand-me-down CPU) Monitor, currently have an Acer 19 but he will likely upgrade that later. I also have a 500 watt power supply that I will likely use until he upgrades to a separate video card.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg

PARTS PREFERENCES: I would like to use ASUS or Gigbyte MB. I have a M478T-E and like it but am open.

OVERCLOCKING: Yes eventually

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes eventually

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Open, must be upgradable when when he buys a video card (e.g.: 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1600x1200, 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200)

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Son would like case with clear side with

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April 19, 2010 12:44:37 PM

Hmmm...only 11 years old?
He seems not yet ready for anything fancy.
The recommendation above is good, but I would like to reduce the GPU to HD5670 or lower or even an onboard GPU.
It should be more than enough enough for a 11 years old kid.
He will need a better one later, but not now.
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April 19, 2010 12:56:14 PM

^ Not a bad idea to reduce the graphic card to HD 5670...and that too if the current screen resolution is low...
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April 19, 2010 1:03:32 PM

Mobo - ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD-RW LG Black 22X DVD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case - COOLER MASTER Elite RC-310-BWN1-GP Black Steel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Video card - HIS H577FM1GD Radeon HD 5770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$480.94

LE: removed the PSU, changed the video card.
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April 19, 2010 11:31:19 PM

What are the advantages of the 790x over the 790g?
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April 20, 2010 12:19:37 AM

I was originally thinking of intergrated graphics and let him upgrade as he grows. That is why I was asking about the difference in the g and the x. I was also wondering if there was a reason to go to the 890gx. I would rather spend the money on the MB because everything else can be changed easily.
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April 20, 2010 3:23:59 AM

Here's a mobo with onboard graphics. Upgradable? Check! It has USB 3.0, Sata 6.0gbps, and can be crossfired for when your son wants more out of his rig. :D 

ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO/U3S6 AM3 AMD 785G
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April 20, 2010 7:31:27 AM

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You don't have to be 18 yrs old to tell the difference in fps and graphics, this is why in America most children are :pfff:  stupid :pt1cable:  and not cultured, because their parents deprive them of joys and give them the least they can. If the OP can afford a 5770, let him get it, give the kid a taste of quality so when he grows up, he wants to be successful so HE can afford that sort of stuff by himself.
And OP, if I were your kid, I would be very grateful if my dad got me a sweet rig when I was 11 yrs old. :D 


A kid needs a room to grow free from any kind of addiction such as hardcore gaming.
Don't let the kid taste the blood, before it can differ what is good and what is not. For that, every human needs time, we call it maturity process.
Believe me, 11 years old kid?
Better stick with lower performance GPU.
In time, he will need a better one eventually.
I say "In time" means not now.

BTW : Do you intend to let an 11 years old kid actually play FPS games with all those blood , killing and gores? Get real dude!
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April 20, 2010 11:15:36 AM

No shoot em up games but he does play alot of adventure games. Currently he is playing a Lord of the Rings game. He has played Supreme Commander. There are a lot of Dungeon and Dragons type games that he likes. We keep him from being addicted by limiting the time he plays as much as we can but he enjoys. Besides it gives something easy to punish him from when he doesn't listen so his behavior actually improves. He has a 9 year old brother and they have been sharing a 7* year old p4 so it is time. I am currently looking at the 790g/890g boards. I will likely wait until next week so that I can consider the 6 core for our replacement CPU when we give him the 720.
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April 20, 2010 8:32:11 PM

I recommend having him help work on the build. My son (9) has been very interested in all the information that I've read/watched for my new pc.
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April 21, 2010 7:01:04 AM

We have given you all you need to think about before buying the PC for your son, now it is decision time.

So...Alternatives :
1. go for mosox's or gkay09 's recommendation but don't buy the HD5770 and replace the mobo with the one 143Miah recommended.
2. go for mosox's or gkay09's recommendation but don't forget upgrade the monitor.

both mosox's and gkay09's recommendation are good, they are only different in choosing the brand for the GPU and casing type. No significant difference here, just choose which one you like.

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April 28, 2010 3:59:26 AM

Well I pulled the trigger. Dont worry the 1055T is going in me and my wife's computer. My son is getting a hand me down 720 x3. Shipping was only 4.99 so the total came to $659. I got combo discounts on CPU and Case and Motherboard and Memory. I forgot which item had the 4.99 shipping but everything else was free. It is going to be up to my son to save the birthday money he is going to get from grandparents to buy a video card. The motherboard has intergrated so he can get by a while.

Thanks


Item List:
1 x ($99.99) WIN HOME PREM 7 64-BIT ENG 1PK DSP - OEM $99.99


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1 x ($54.99) HD 500G|SAMSUNG HD502HJ % - OEM $54.99


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1 x ($26.99) DVD BURN SONY|AD-7240S-0B % - OEM $26.99


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1 x ($16.99) KB&MS LOGITECH|DELUXE 250 DESKTOP % - OEM $16.99


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1 x ($109.99) MEM 2Gx2|GSKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL $109.99


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1 x ($114.99) MB ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 790GX/SB750 RT $114.99


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1 x ($209.99) CPU AMD|PH II X6 1055T 2.8 G AM3 RT $209.99


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1 x ($59.99) CASE ANTEC|THREE HUNDRED ILLUSION R $59.99


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1 x ($-25.00) DISCOUNT FOR COMBO #382749$-25.00


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1 x ($-15.00) DISCOUNT FOR COMBO #367644$-15.00


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April 28, 2010 8:38:50 AM

I hope your son likes the new system. :) 
Hmmm....X6? hmmm...I would perhaps also get one of those...Oh nooo....no money anymore for pc upgrade this year. Perhaps next year....
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