New Memory

[purple stain]

Just wanted to ask a quick question.Was wondering if i woudl run into any problems installing this 1333mhz ram into my mobo.The ram that is already in there is 1600mhz.But it seems the people at the factory installed the wrong one and the mobo auto underclocks it to 1333mhz.Would i run into any problems getting the 1333mhz and running it with the 1600mhz 1 that is underclocked.The manual always says to use the same frequiences.

4g DDR3 1333mhz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145322

Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128431&Tpk=770t-usb3

Although the mobo states that it cant go up to 1666mhz.Everytime i set the 1600mhz ram stick to 1600mhz instead of 1333mhz it's always crashing.

 

[jaquith]

In the BIOS have you 'tried' to change the {MIT} Set Memory Clock -> 8, save a exit.

Generally, I do NOT recommend mixing Speed, CAS, Timings, manufacturers, etc. If you need more RAM then get an Identical set to what you already have now.

Q - please provide a link to the RAM you already have installed; I can post the settings that you need.

 

[purple stain]

Yes i have tryed setting the multiplyer manually to the rated speed which is x8=1600mhz.But when i do the comp crashes,and i've seen it before and it's memory related crash.

Well luckily the one thats in their and the one i wanted to get are both Corsair.I did compare them and they seem to have the same timings.

Here is the exact one i have right now but without the heatspreader

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233141&cm_re=single_4g_ddr3_1600-_-20-233-141-_-Product

 

[purple stain]

Here is what it reads directly from the motherboards manual:

4x1.5v DDR3 DIMM sockets supporting up to 16gb of system memory
Dual channel memory architechture
Support for DDR3 1800(O.C.)/1666/1333/1066mhz memory modules
Support for ECC memory modules.

I find it strange that the manual for the mobo says differently than the one on newegg i posted,although their are the exact same model.

 

[jaquith]

...Here is the exact one i have right now but without the heatspreader

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233141&cm_re=single_4g_ddr3_1600-_-20-233-141-_-Product

Huh?? Here's the RAM compatible with your MOBO -> http://www2.corsair.com/configurator/product_results.aspx?id=1529989 Phenom II RAM -> http://www.corsair.com/memory-3/amd-memory-solutions/phenom-ii.html

If you have the CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9 then exchange for CMP8GX3M2A1600C9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145313

You have a choice, 1 4GB or Pairs of 2 or 4 with 1GB, 2GB or 4GB. Ideally, for 8GB 2X4GB as listed above. The Dual Channel really needs pairs of MATCHED Sets per channel. Instead you are trying to create a pseudo set that is totally unmatched and a recipe for disaster.

Ass-u-ming you have {CORSAIR Vengeance} 1600 MHz 9-9-9-24-2T @ 1.5v
BIOS:
{MIT}
Set Memory Clock -> 8
DRAM Voltage Control -> 1.55v {little higher 4GB}
NB Voltage Control -> 1.25v~1.30v
--
DRAM Configuration {enter}
DDR3 Timing Items
enter 9-9-9-24
1T/2T Command Timing -> 2T
DCTs Mode -> Unganged {doesn't really apply w/1 stick}

--

Installing (1) Stick use either DDR3_1 {closest to CPU} or DDR3_3 {third slot from CPU}; try both slots upon failure.

 

[purple stain]

That ram stick i have is simillar in specs to the vengenace it just does't have the heat spreader.
Forgot to say i have 2x2g 1600mhz currently but the mobo has underclocked them for some reason to 1333mhz

I can't really spend more than $50 and i was looking for a single 4g stick.

 

[jaquith]

Do NOT have 2+2+_+4GB = Poof! Will NOT work!

I do not want to guess settings, so use CPUz to identify your EXACT RAM Part-Number - http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

 

[purple stain]

Why will 2g+2g+4g not work?I wanted to buy a 4g single so i would not have to throw away ram when i upgrade in the future.

 

[jaquith]

So you have CM3X2G1600C9NX @ 1.6v which is an OEM RAM {CyberPower more than likely}.

It appears to have XMP info, but your GA MOBO isn't XMP compliant; no big deal.

BIOS:
{MIT}
Set Memory Clock -> 8
DRAM Voltage Control -> 1.6v {little higher 4GB}
NB Voltage Control -> 1.30v~1.35v
--
DRAM Configuration {enter}
DDR3 Timing Items
enter 9-9-9-24
1T/2T Command Timing -> 2T
DCTs Mode -> Unganged [strike]{doesn't really apply w/1 stick} [/strike] if failure.

Failure, {using the above settings} create a bootable Memtest CD/DVD {ISO/zip} http://www.memtest.org/ run for 2 passes.

RE: {Do NOT have 2+2+_+4GB = Poof! Will NOT work!} refer to your DDR configurations page 16:

 

[purple stain]

Yes it is from cyberpower..but what does that all mean?Is it instructions or a reference?

Can i still buy the original memory stick i wanted to or do i have to choose a different one?

Can i just run the 4g single without dual channel until i get another stick?

 

[jaquith]

NO 2+1, it means the you can ONLY install: 1, 2 or 4 sticks, and if using PAIRS then the second MUST be a 'matching' PAIR to the first pair. Matching = Speed, CAS timings, Voltage, and Type.

What I posted are tailored instructions for you to properly set your RAM, CyberPower typically sets your RAM at baseline speeds e.g. 1066 MHz and everything as Auto. I edited above.

 

[purple stain]

Do you have any reccomendations for what type of memory i can get for less than $50.

I'm guessing 2x2g sticks would do just find...i looked up the exact part number on newegg and they don't seem to have it.

 

[jaquith]

Nope, the closest is the CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 CMP4GX3M2A1600C9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145296

Your best bet is to buy another Matching Set of CM3X2G1600C9NX from CyberPower.

 

[purple stain]

How would i go about getting RAM from cyberpower?

Doesn't seem like the timings are correct,maybe the voltage is off.I'll keep testing it.

Thanks for all your help

 

[jaquith]

Did you use the settings above?

CyberPowerPC http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/company/contact.aspx

 

[purple stain]

Yes i did...
I'm thinking the voltage is off on the NB,i'll keep tweaking

 

[purple stain]

Just curious,would any of these work?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=40000147%20600006069%204801&IsNodeId=1&Description=4g%20ddr3%201600&name=Mail-in%20Rebate

 

[jaquith]

^Perhaps, but I would stay with the same Brand, CAS, Voltage, Type (IC's used -> typically the same Mfg is the best but not guaranteed IC's).

If it were 'me' I would start a ticket with Corsair and they have ALL the specs and 'might' sell you another set... Corsair http://www.corsair.com/support/technicalsupport

I would prefer the SAME EXACT Set if possible. Saving a few bucks to create a HUGE problem is short sighted. RAM is more complicated than people think. Remember CAS 9 = 9 Billionths of a second -- it's like an atomic clock. If the new + old RAM conflict the BIOS will shut down {i.e. unusable} on or the other set.

 

[purple stain]

I'm just going to go ahead and purshace that 4G Dominator,

Thanks again for all your help.

 

[purple stain]

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[jaquith]

Good Luck!

 

[purple stain]

The dominator should work no problems?

 

[jaquith]

Better than anything else; as I said the EXACT is 'my' #1 choice from CyberPowerPC. I guarantee 99.99999% different Corsairs will NOT operate in X.M.P. so you'll need to set the RAM manually; DRAM Frequency, CAS Timings, DRAM Voltage, and 50/50 up the QPI/DRAM Voltage {a/k/a VTT or NB DRAM Voltage, etc} ~ 1.3v~1.35v.

 

[purple stain]

shouldn't be to hard would it?Be the same as trying to get my current memory to 1600,in the same way.

I still can't find the correct NB voltage to adjust...I put the NB Volt from 1.0to1.3 and it still didn't work.
9
9
9
24
right?

 

[jaquith]

What do you mean "NB Volt from 1.0to1.3 and it still didn't work" -- does it 'work' the NB Voltage Control = Auto? If yes then use Auto.

I thought your RAM was running fine?

BIOS:
{MIT}
Set Memory Clock -> 8
DRAM Voltage Control -> 1.6v {little higher 4GB}
NB Voltage Control -> 1.30v~1.35v
--
DRAM Configuration {enter}
DDR3 Timing Items
enter 9-9-9-24
1T/2T Command Timing -> 2T
--
DCTs Mode -> Unganged if failure.

See the timings per JEDEC #4 -> http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5861/ramxz.jpg also I noticed several OC Apps -- if you have a bad OC then you can have all sorts of problems. Therefore, I would recommend that you:

BIOS:
Load Defaults
IDE - > ACHI {if that was already changed}
(CPU Fan speed = 100%)
--
then add the RAM changes per above.