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ASUS P6x58D-E, Win 7 (64) Marvell AT 91xx

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December 30, 2010 11:16:33 PM

Hello,
I seem to be having problems when I try and upgrade the Marvel AT91xx Console on Win 7 64bit. Clobbers my WD 6G 1TB drive to the point I have to reformat the drive with DISKPART and reload from the start. Heard of anything like this?
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December 31, 2010 1:10:51 AM

Run ALL HDDs on the SATA2 {ICH10R} there's absolutely no advantage to run anything but a C300 or faster SSD on Marvell. [SATA3 = 6Gb/s = Interface] The Speed of your HDD is ~130~140 MB/s; SATA2 limit is 300 MB/s. The Intel is VERY mature but the Marvell is not.

It sounds like you corrupted the Drivers changing from IDE -> AHCI. This can be fixed http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976
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December 31, 2010 3:34:31 PM

Edit: I though you were talking about firmware not drivers.

I just got a few 6Gb drives and like Jaquith said above, They are not much faster on the Marvell controller.

That makes me a little mad, as i planed on using those 2 ports on the Marvell controller at 6Gb but find i get about 125 to 160 on them with Barracuda XT drives. But it seems i get errors at that speed and the drive just disappears and i have to cycle power to the drive to get it to show up in windows again.
I moved that drive to the intel 3Gb controller reformatted and it seems OK. Running Sea tools on it now. These are new drive so it could be a bad drive, i am still in testing mode, we sill see.

I bought my mother board for all these SATA ports and find limits on them all i did not know about. I did not do my homework this time around.
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December 31, 2010 4:28:01 PM

Thanks all. I put my primary boot drive (C) and high access files (D) are on two WD 6GB/s 1TB drives attached to the Marvell controller. I have my two DVD RW and two ST 1.5 TB drives on the SATA2 ports. That leaves me two SATA2 ports one of which I have attached to the front panel (intend to use for ghosting).

I rebuilt the system without applying the Marvell drivers. It does show up as a problem in the device manager but it seems to run fine. I am running the Marvel set at IDE in the BIOS. Perhaps as jaquith says, when I apply the driver update it somehow get reset to ACHI. I may try and apply that MSFT patch and see where we go from there.

I would be dissapointed if I couldn't use the two 6GB SATA ports as this is one reason I bought this board.


Thanks again for the reply. Anyone else with an idea or two? Happy New Year all. jim :hello: 
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December 31, 2010 10:28:30 PM

If after loading the drivers you still have problems or even if you think you do then the 'simplest' fix to driver corruption it the play 'musical ports' with all the HDDs. Port 1->3, 2->1, 3->2 -- it reinitializes the drivers AND the registry settings, and I KNOW with works.

Happy New Year to all! :) 
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January 1, 2011 9:45:22 PM

Well I finally surrendered and took the system to the shop where I purchased the parts. I had the system skinnyed down to 2 MB memory, 1 Disk attached to the SATA 3 Marvel controller and was still getting disk corruption and BSOD.

In converstation with the tech he mentioned "streamlining" with an application called NLite. Hadn't done this before but thinking over night about what the tech said and comments form jaquith I think I may have a clue on what maybe happening. Comments welcomed.

When I loaded Windows 7 using the 6GB/s drive attached to the Marvell controller, it had some basic SATA funtionality through the Windows 7 driver but there were underlying problems between the native Windows 7 SATA drivers and the Marvell controller. When I loaded the proper driver after installing Windows 7 the new driver excerbated the I/O problems eventually causing the BSOD.

Because Windows 7 doesn't have the F6 driver install during build that XP had that leaves me with two options, either putting the Marvell drivers on the Windows 7 disk, i.e. streamlining using Nlite or something like that - or - do the initial build with the boot 6 GB/s drive attached to a ICH10 SATA2 port until initial build and the Marvell drivers could be loaded. I could then move the drive to the SATA3 Marvell controller and all would be well. A third option as jaquith notes above may work but I think the disk would be corrupted during the intial load so perhaps not.

I haven't tried this yet as the machine is still at the shop over the weekend. Sounds hokey and you would think either the Redmond Red Riders would have provided the capability to preload drivers in Windows 7 as in XP or the Marvell developers would permit basic drivers for IDE to work - but alas it does not seem to be the case.

BTW the corruption of the HDD was so bad I had to use DOS Diskpart to format before I could try to load windows again. Really, really ugly.

Comments, sugggestions, thougths, etc. appreciated. I will post the shop solution if different. jim
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January 1, 2011 10:58:41 PM

Well just a few things to add.


I also had a problem with the Marvell 6Gb controller. In my case i also though it was many things that caused the problem, but in the end i find one of the ports on the motherboard just don't work good. That one port is not stable and i get error transferring info over that one port. I found this out after swapping Drives and cable and the problem always stayed with that port. I always had two drives connected to the Marvell controller and have never tired only one drive on that bad port, but i got two 6Gb drives so now one is connected to the 3Gb port.
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January 1, 2011 11:07:20 PM

Assuming 'Slipstream' it is TOTALLY unnecessary for Windows 7 and your situation. The F6/Floppy driver is for XP only - in nLite you just add Intel 'drivers' do so the installer can run w/o the F6.

When installing you only want 1 DVD and 1 HDD/SSD attached. The WORST thing is if ANY of those other HDDs had a Windows install then the INI and other 'boot' info gets written to those drives! Hence you've got a completely screwed-up arrangement!

If it were me, I would start from scratch:
1. Set-up the BIOS: IDE->AHCI; if using an H50/70 'pump' to the CPU_FAN header-> CPU FAN 100%.
2. (1) O-N-E HDD and DVD
3. Never have a DVD installed in SATA2 first 4 ports or with AHCI
4. FULL Format HDD; use a utility if you need to wipe the HDD
5. Boot order 1 = DVD, 2 = HDD
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6. Install Windows 7; DO NOT USE a Windows 7 DVD from an OEM PC like HP/Dell/GW etc - it will screw you up big time.
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Failure: Install 'fresh' see item #4 use the SATA2_1; get up and running then install the LATEST Marvell driver - from Marvell {see right column} -> http://www.marvell.com/support.html
Move to SATA3 Marvell Port.
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January 1, 2011 11:08:59 PM

BTW - I have 10 ASUS P6X58D-E so I know a thing or two about it...
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January 2, 2011 3:55:25 PM

jaquith said:
BTW - I have 10 ASUS P6X58D-E so I know a thing or two about it...


Excellent input all, thanks. I guess I get a little anxious when I build my systems and install everything. Have hit a couple of snags along the way, so perhaps I should be a bit more patient. With my F6 / Floppy comment I was hinting that I would have liked this option for Windows 7, perhaps being able to point to a USB to pick up the extraneous drivers. I think this is better than having to build an ISO file with another product just to load, but I digress.

I tried to use AHCI for the 6GB/s drive but Windows install hung on the next to the last step, I think it was driver install but can't remember at the moment. I was so wrapped around the axle chasing my tail I could have had introduced another problem so I am just putting that in my watch list.

BTW what do you see as an advantage for AHCI over IDE? Did you set the SATA 2 controller to AHCI as well? If you don't install the DVD into the first four ports would I am presumming you recommend installing on one of the two the MOB ports on the south edge of the MOB? Also if ACHI shouldn't be used for controllers to which the DVD is attached I am presuming the 6 SATA 2 ports should be set to IDE?

Also don't quite understand the fan comment and theH50/H70 pump? I am using the Intel supplied CPU cooler. Tests on the proc showed it stayed well within Temp spec. MB temp is Ok as well. I am using an ANTEC case with enough large fans to keep my desk afloat 2 in off the floor.
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January 2, 2011 4:39:49 PM

In 'my' case I have them all as SSD {Apps + OS/128GB} and RAID 1 HDD {Data/1TB}, and set to RAID. RAID treats the drives as 'AHCI' + TRIM for the SSD.

When building, I have an indifferent attitude and if I run into an install issue I don't think twice about reformatting, Flashing either the MOBO or SSD/HHD if needed. I never connect more than the minimum drives and I install all the header stuff last {USB/drive lettering}. After the OS is running then I'll configure RAID, CF/SLI, etc. If the Build is very complex then I bench build and once running -> install in case.

IF you want to use SATA2 then I would recommend using the first (4) four SATA2 Ports SATA1~SATA4; I always recommend the {Primary(ies)} be located on the first SATA Ports.

As I said if you're stuck on using a HDD on SATA3:
Failure: Install 'fresh' see item #4 use the SATA2_1; get up and running then install the LATEST Marvell driver - from Marvell {see right column} -> http://www.marvell.com/support.html
Move to SATA3 Marvell Port.

The speed differences of IDE vs AHCI and HDD {not SSD} are negligible, so unless I needed a hot-swap HDD and an SSD I would probably run IDE in your case. But you 'seem' hell bent on eeking every ounce of performance so AHCI was my recommendation.

RE: "H50/H70 pump" the step I apparently omitted was Load Defaults; too many posts. If you had a Corsair H50/H70 then you want the pump running 100% always. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... a lot of X58 people run the Corsair; I said "if using..." operative word IF.

*. BIOS: Load Defaults
1. Set-up the BIOS: IDE->AHCI {OPTIONAL} ; if using an H50/70 'pump' to the CPU_FAN header-> CPU FAN 100%.
2. (1) O-N-E HDD and DVD
3. Never have a DVD installed in SATA2 first 4 ports or with AHCI
4. FULL Format HDD; use a utility if you need to wipe the HDD
5. Boot order 1 = DVD, 2 = HDD

However, my real opinion of what 'I would do' was clear from my first post. :D 
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January 2, 2011 6:37:28 PM

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January 2, 2011 6:38:59 PM

Thanks again to all for the help. I will post further info if / when it happens, but I think y'all have help me run this puppy to ground, or at least understand what is happening. Happy New Year to all, and thanks to Tomshardware. jim
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April 19, 2011 12:39:47 AM

Hi!

I built my system maybe a month ago:
i7-970, 6Gb, with that P6x58D-E board.
I had two WD 2TB Black Sata 6G connected to the two Marvell ports and configured in Raid (mirror).
Everything went well until last week: rebooted and it was always going in Start-up repair mode. Could never repair it.
Wanted to get my data so tried to connect one of the HDD to another computer: cannot read... I understood that when a HDD is configured by a Hardware Raid, it can only be read by the same Raid controller, am I right?

Anyway, I needed that data so I added a temporary HDD in the system and installed Windows on it. Then from windows I was able to read the 2TB drives but with problems... Had to run a looooooong full check disk but still some data was lost, strangely the last data I created was lost.

Both HDD are passing the WD diagnostic tests so I understand I have an issue with the Marvell controller like you.

Now my plan is to install a SSD drive as main for OS & Apps, it is an Intel sata 6G drive. Then I want to setup the two 2TB data drives in mirror but this time using the Windows mirror so the drives remain readable in any computers if something happens.

What is the best setup? Have the SSD on one Marvell port and the two other drives on the Intel sata 2? Or the Intel SSD on the Intel sata 2? (intel talking to intel)
What if I go in advanced drive options in the Windows setup to specify a driver on a USB stick for the Marvell?

Or I understand you suggest to install Windows with the SSD connected to a sata 2 port then once installed and having installed the latest Marvell drivers, I can move the SSD to the sata 6G without being afraid to lose something?

Thank you!
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April 19, 2011 1:31:15 AM

^ IMO

Intel ICH10R
SATA 1 = SSD
SATA 2 = 2TB 1
SATA 3 = 2TB 2
SATA 5 = ODD

Ctrl - I set-up RAID to mirror.

As much as I like the Marvell on that MOBO and using the latest driver is craps-out at ~Read 360MB/s & ~Write 275 MB/s even with the newest 550/500 MB/s SSD. Oddly the Intel SATA 2 will 293/245.

You can move the SSD from Intel to Marvell easily, and yes you need the drivers. But only use the latest and keep an eye out for Marvell v2 drivers which are in Beta.
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April 21, 2011 12:36:28 AM

can you help at all. I have an asus sabertooth x58 mobo and an i7 950 cpu, i've just had an ocz vertex 3 128gb ssd. My question is what settings do i need to change that are different to installing on a mechanical HDD, as upon installing win 7 i dont seem to be experiencing lightning quick speeds. I have the SSD in the Marvell Sata 6G port 1 in AHCI and a 640gb HDD in the ICH10R port 1 in AHCI and a DVD-RW in the ICH10R port 2 in AHCI. When you have to specify which drive to install win 7 on i didn't format the SSD, i just installed it straight from the box. I also had to re-install win 7 as we had a power cut just before the end of the 1st installation, I didn't format the drive I just deleted the system drive partition and installed it on the 111Gb(don't know where 9Gb has gone. Any help would be hugely appreciated.
jaquith said:
Run ALL HDDs on the SATA2 {ICH10R} there's absolutely no advantage to run anything but a C300 or faster SSD on Marvell. [SATA3 = 6Gb/s = Interface] The Speed of your HDD is ~130~140 MB/s; SATA2 limit is 300 MB/s. The Intel is VERY mature but the Marvell is not.

It sounds like you corrupted the Drivers changing from IDE -> AHCI. This can be fixed http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976

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April 21, 2011 1:58:25 AM

The Marvell 9120/9128 craps out about 365~375MB/s and I know the OCZ Vertex 3 is 550/500. You'll never see it on that MOBO, the only solution is to get an LSI SATA/RAID Card. Next, you must use the latest Marvell drivers, soon there will be a v2 that's in beta now. Unfortunately, the Marvell is shared and the theoretical maximum on PCIe 2 x1 lane is 500 MB/s.

The missing 9GB+ is a combination of formatting and part of Trim. SSD's have a limited lifespan so the 'missing' is held in reserve {over-provisioning} and will replenish when 'blocks' can no longer write data or are 'bad' -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM
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April 21, 2011 5:10:18 AM

I'm getting 410mb read and 258mb write on the marvell sata 6g with the latest 1201 drivers. I've seen the asus u3s6 but i'm not familiar with the lsi. What sort of speed could I expect with the lsi card and whats the difference between the lsi and the u3s6?
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April 21, 2011 1:21:12 PM

The LSI 92xx-xx and Marvell 9182 {no typo, it's x2 lanes} will allow the full speed R & W.

You should post your ATTO & AS SSD to OCZ because they're the fastest I've seen for the MOBO.
Informative link -> http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?...


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April 21, 2011 3:54:42 PM

Ok... I might be bad, but when I go on Marvell.com, in the drivers section, I see only Network Controller stuff...
I'm on Marvell.com/support.html

Where did you get the latest drivers?
The ones on ASUS Support are dated 2010 I think.

Thanks!
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April 21, 2011 10:22:56 PM

The values that i gave in my last post were done using atto and they were the final set of figures, 8096k, i think. So what u r saying is that i'd get slightly better performance using a pcie expansion card. Which of the 2 is the better? I'm not bothered about usb3 but i want as much performance from my ssd as i can get from my current set-up.
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April 21, 2011 10:57:48 PM

There's (2) people posting on another OP's post more less asking the same questions.

@milkyjoe01 - On an LSI you will not have a shared or limited x1 lane, most LSI require x4 and some x8 lanes. I know of someone using 8 Intel SSD in RAID 10 and 2 more Intel in RAID 0 on an x8 LSI. If you're happy as-is then don't spend the money. IF I was getting 410 MB/s then 'I' wouldn't spend the money.
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May 2, 2011 1:20:35 AM

Everything looks fine now with the latest drivers from ASUS for the Marvell Sata 3 Controller.

For people interested, I'm posting my benchmarks with my ASUS P6X58D-E Mobo and my Intel 510 SSD drive:

Benchmark using Intel Sata 2: Read Max: 261MB/s Write Max 199MB/s
Benchmark using Marvell Sata 3: Read Max: 364MB/s Write Max 201MB/s

Thanks people and remember NOT to let Windows 7 update your Marvell Controller drivers, they screwed my drives and I did lose the data that was writen to the drives after the update. At least I was able to get the other data.
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March 5, 2012 4:39:04 PM

jaquith said:
^ IMO

Intel ICH10R
SATA 1 = SSD
SATA 2 = 2TB 1
SATA 3 = 2TB 2
SATA 5 = ODD

Ctrl - I set-up RAID to mirror.

As much as I like the Marvell on that MOBO and using the latest driver is craps-out at ~Read 360MB/s & ~Write 275 MB/s even with the newest 550/500 MB/s SSD. Oddly the Intel SATA 2 will 293/245.

You can move the SSD from Intel to Marvell easily, and yes you need the drivers. But only use the latest and keep an eye out for Marvell v2 drivers which are in Beta.

I recently needed to replace a HD in my computer with has the ASUS P6X58D-E Mobo. I went with a Plextor Sata 3 SSD instead of a OCZ opting for what i think is reliability instead of speed due to my lack of experience with SSD installations. Prior to installation I went on the internet and much to my surprise found tons on info on the Marvell 9128 controller, unfortunately most of which was not encouraging. Armed with the info on the various sites but particularly this site w/Jaquith's advice I was able to successfully and without much incident, install my new drive on the Marvell Controller leaving a HDD on the Intel Controller. I did not expect the write and read figures to be very good therefore I wasn't disappointed to find read figures in the 300 MB/s range (still a little better than a Sata 2 Controller would allow. However, I was surprised to find that the MS Serial ATA - AHCI Controller driver provided significant better results than the new Marvell 1.2.0.1016 driver. The Generic Serial ATA Controller allowed for Read 379 MB/sec Write 197MB/sec Overall 588 while tests with Marvell Driver only achieved Read 321 Write 197 MB/sec Overall 468. The testing showed consistent result over several runnings. I realize that there is hardly anyone happy with the Marvel controller and drivers but I found the results to be hard to understand. Understandably benchmark testing doesn't always give you a true picture of actual use performance. Can you shed any light on the issue? I am also the holder of one of the Motherboards that recognizes the Marvel 9128 Controller as a 9123. I find it hard to understand why ASUS would not provide a firmware update for this seemingly popular MOBO to address the Controller especially in light that other motherboard manufactures which featured the Marvel SATA 3 9128 did issue firmware updates. I would open a case with ASUS if I thought adding my voice to the matter would do any good but given the MOBO is no longer on the market, I doubt it would do any good.
BTW, while I place the HDD on one of the first 4 ports on the SATA 2 controller, I did go ahead and make sure that my DVD was not on any of the first 4 ports on the SATA 2 controller, instead placing it on one of the 5 port. However, since I'm running AHCI mode on the Intel controller I do not see what the issue is and am therefore very curious as to what led you to make that recommendation
Thanks for the great advice you have shared in your postings. It is greatly appreciated.
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March 5, 2012 5:57:53 PM

Several folks reported issues in the past on the Intel ICH10R with some DVD (ODD) when using AHCI and the first 4 SATA ports.

"MS Serial ATA - AHCI Controller driver provided significant better results than the new Marvell 1.2.0.1016 driver. The Generic Serial ATA Controller allowed for Read 379 MB/sec Write 197MB/sec"

Interesting, in both cases make sure in both cases the following Start = 0 value for AHCI mode are correct:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Msahci
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\IastorV
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March 5, 2012 6:22:31 PM

jaquith said:
Several folks reported issues in the past on the Intel ICH10R with some DVD (ODD) when using AHCI and the first 4 SATA ports.

"MS Serial ATA - AHCI Controller driver provided significant better results than the new Marvell 1.2.0.1016 driver. The Generic Serial ATA Controller allowed for Read 379 MB/sec Write 197MB/sec"

Interesting, in both cases make sure in both cases the following Start = 0 value for AHCI mode are correct:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Msahci
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\IastorV


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Msahci Start = 0 was indeed set.
However, I was under the impression, maybe mistakenly, that the IastorV controller dealt solely with a Raid set up on the Intel Controller and since I did not set up for a Raid configuration, I therefore did not change it, leaving start=3. While I cannot see a connection, I am more than willing to set it to 0 and run benchmarking tests this evening to see it make a difference. Glad to see you still alert to the thread, thought it might be dead since it is almost a year since the last posting.
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March 5, 2012 6:43:40 PM

If you're using AHCI then set them both as 0 (zero); or run 'Fix It' and allow it to set it correctly - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976 Both 0 values are used in AHCI and RAID.
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March 6, 2012 12:25:22 PM

jaquith said:
If you're using AHCI then set them both as 0 (zero); or run 'Fix It' and allow it to set it correctly - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976 Both 0 values are used in AHCI and RAID.


I ran the benchmark test again with msahci=0 / IaStorV=3, after which I then set the IaStorV=0 and ran the benchtest test again. The results were comparable with the results following the setting of IaStorV-0 being just slightly higher (good thing). However, as you can see, the results for testing done with the Windows 7 Standard Serial ATA - Ahci Controller/driver (2006 driver at that) were notably higher the result for testing done with the Marvell 9128 Controller/Marvel 1.2.0.1016 driver in place. Will run some ATTO benchmarking but barring finding anything out of the ordinary in those results, it would seem to make sense to stick with the Standard Serial ATA - Ahci setup until such time as a new version of the Marvell 9128 driver comes out for comparison testing.

PLEXTOR PX-128M3 SSD

msahci =0 / IaStorV = 3
Controller>mv91xx
Seq Test > Read: 284.41 / Write: 196.73
Random 4K > Read: 23.42 / Write: 37.53
Random 4K -64Thrd > Read: 114.32 / Write: 149.64
AccTime > Read: 0.115 / Write: 0.093
Score > Read: 155 / Write: 207
Composite Score > 463

Controller>msahci
Seq Test > Read: 375.73 / Write: 196.36
Random 4K > Read: 23.18 / Write: 37.62
Random 4K -64Thrd > Read: 189.54 / Write: 141.55
AccTime > Read: 0.111 / Write: 0.081
Score > Read: 250 / Write: 197
Composite Score > 577


msahci =0 / IaStorV = 0
Controller>mv91xx
Seq Test > Read: 294.41 / Write: 196.49
Random 4K > Read: 23.49 / Write: 38.00
Random 4K -64Thrd > Read: 123.36 / Write: 143.64
AccTime > Read: 0.115 / Write: 0.092
Score > Read: 186 / Write: 201
Composite Score > 473

Controller>msahci
Seq Test > Read: 376.59 / Write: 195.20
Random 4K > Read: 23.40 / Write: 38.02
Random 4K -64Thrd > Read: 197.42 / Write: 150.67
AccTime > Read: 0.118 / Write: 0.091
Score > Read: 258 / Write: 208
Composite Score > 599

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March 6, 2012 6:13:10 PM

Leave both Start(s) = 0; speed nice but corruption bad.

Using the Windows default driver vs Marvell, a couple things: 1. Make certain that the Default driver supports TRIM, 2. ditto with corruption. While some drivers are faster often the newer 'fixes' problems so keep that in mind above all.

Verify TRIM; see -> http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=86403

CMD.exe right-click 'Run as Administrator'

Type in the following request

fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify

Results:
DisableDeleteNotify = 1 (Windows TRIM commands are disabled)
DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (Windows TRIM commands are enabled)
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March 6, 2012 7:17:42 PM

jaquith said:
Leave both Start(s) = 0; speed nice but corruption bad.

Using the Windows default driver vs Marvell, a couple things: 1. Make certain that the Default driver supports TRIM, 2. ditto with corruption. While some drivers are faster often the newer 'fixes' problems so keep that in mind above all.

Verify TRIM; see -> http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=86403

CMD.exe right-click 'Run as Administrator'

Type in the following request

fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify

Results:
DisableDeleteNotify = 1 (Windows TRIM commands are disabled)
DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (Windows TRIM commands are enabled)


I'm certainly in agreement with you that speed is not worth anything (especially given the small difference involved in this case) if corruption is ultimately the result and it does give me great pause when seeing a 2006 Windows generic controller/driver seemingly outform a controller/OEM driver which has undergone several updates presumably to provide better performance & reliability. I'm still debating the issue with myself. I do, however, provide for frequent backups to the HDD, periodical data syncs to USB thumb drive, and also conduct periodic imaging so I would have some form of protection if I went with the Windows Standard Serial ATA Ahci Controller/Drive.

I had already queried Windows as far as being Trim enabled, so OK there. The Plextor SSD itself supports Window 7 Trim command. However, I was under the impression that the controller and its driver can be the bog stumbling block in Trim functioning. I am unaware of any way of determining if Trim is actually occurring. Any Insight?
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March 6, 2012 11:03:20 PM

If TRIM is Enabled and your SSD supports TRIM then it should be working.

Your SSD manufacture 'might' offer an SSD tool to verify and gather additional information. Example Intel SSD's have Intel Solid-State Drive Toolbox, and CrystalDiskInfo can also perform queries. When I looked Plextor had nothing listed under their SSD section, but if you're registered then maybe something would appear?!
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March 7, 2012 1:25:55 AM

jaquith said:
If TRIM is Enabled and your SSD supports TRIM then it should be working.

Your SSD manufacture 'might' offer an SSD tool to verify and gather additional information. Example Intel SSD's have Intel Solid-State Drive Toolbox, and CrystalDiskInfo can also perform queries. When I looked Plextor had nothing listed under their SSD section, but if you're registered then maybe something would appear?!


Unfortunately, Plextor does not provide an utiity such as Intel's SSD Toolbox (a nice utilitity; I have a small capacity Intel SATA 2 SSD - 2 years old). The Plextor unit came with a CD which had several utilities (disk cloning, backup, media maker, disk benchmarking) but nothing to verify and gather additional info such as CrystalDiskInfo (thanks for turning me on to Crystal).

One review of Plextor's new M3S drive indicated "The M3S is the second series of drives to ship with their Plextor's exclusive True Speed technology... Along with support for TRIM, the M3S's firmware incorporates Plextor's Bad Block Management, Global Wear Leveling and Instant Restore technologies. Where Bad Block Management and Global Wear Leveling optimize the way data is written on the drive, Instant Restore maintains "like new" performance by reorganizing data to maximize the number of free cells." I'll have to accept on good faith that the drive fully accommodates the Trim function.

Thanks for your help! It has been greatly appreciated!

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March 7, 2012 11:26:57 AM

Good Luck! :) 
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a c 328 V Motherboard
March 9, 2012 6:45:13 AM

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