Video Editing

[mutamusmaximus]

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Might be tonight 4/19/10 BUDGET RANGE: $5000

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Most: Adobe premiere and after effects Least: Answering Emails.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com or any other reliable site

PARTS PREFERENCES:Not sure about all the differences between certain things.

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: anything Good

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Got a build going

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

Intel S5520SCR Dual LGA 1366 Intel 5520 SSI EEB Dual Intel Xeon 5500 and Quad-Core/Six-Core 5600 Series Server Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121409

(2) Intel Xeon W3550 Bloomfield 3.066GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Server Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117218

(2) ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 92mm Fluid Dynamic CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

(2) Patriot Extreme Performance Viper Series 12GB (6 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PVT312G1333LLHK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220386

(2) Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000HLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136322

(2) Western Digital AV-GP WD15EVDS 1.5TB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -BareDrive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136495

PNY VCQFX5500-PCIE-PB Quadro FX 5500 1GB 256-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Workstation Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133189

LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Writer LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106335

CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139007

ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 ASCR 20000:1 (1000:1) Built-in Speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049

Total : $4,799.77


Want this computer to be fast while working with Adobe Premiere and After Effects.

 

[coldsleep]

You don't mention how much that comes to, but it would be a shame to have that large a budget and be using Velociraptors instead of SSDs.

1000 W is likely overkill for your purposes.

Sorry, no time for more useful/complete criticism at this point, just a couple of things to consider.

 

[mutamusmaximus]

Thank you. Just learning a bunch of stuff as I go along. Not sure what SSD's would do?

 

[mindless728]

you can't use 2 x Xeon 3xxx series, they are meant for single socket configurations, you have to get the 5xxx series for dual socket configurations

EDIT: this would be the same price as the 3550: Intel Xeon E5630 Westmere 2.53GHz

 

[Shadow703793]

^ Correct.

Also, you probably need ECC RAM, not the normal "gamer" RAM. Also, SSI EEB != to EATX. They have different hole lay out. Also drop the WD "Green" and get a Samsung F3. Drop the Raptors and get a Intel X25-M G2. Store your OS + AE/Pr on the SSD. Use a RAM disk (3-4GB will do) to store scratch files.

Is this a pro level set up?

edit:
note: DO NOT buy till next week or so until you get everything figured out.

 

[mutamusmaximus]

^ Correct.

Also, you probably need ECC RAM, not the normal "gamer" RAM. Also, SSI EEB != to EATX. They have different hole lay out. Also drop the WD "Green" and get a Samsung F3. Drop the Raptors and get a Intel X25-M G2. Store your OS + AE/Pr on the SSD. Use a RAM disk (3-4GB will do) to store scratch files.

Is this a pro level set up?

edit:
note: DO NOT buy till next week or so until you get everything figured out.

This setup will be used for Adobe Premiere and after effects mostly. We want to be able to work on the videos and effects without such lag on our computer. I guess we would like to go with a pro setup. I confess that I am very new to all this. Would like to spend only up to $5000 on this. We want to work as fast as possible Thanks for all your help!


So you want me to go with something like this for a case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163135&cm_re=ssi_eeb-_-11-163-135-_-Product (the case I have on the list in the specification says that i supports EATX)

A SSD instead of the raptors:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167024&cm_re=Intel_X25-M_G2-_-20-167-024-_-Product

And the Samsung F3 instead of the WD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&cm_re=Samsung_F3-_-22-152-185-_-Product ( should I get two of these??)

 

[banthracis]

For the SSD setup, you're better off getting 2 x25-M 80GB and putting them into RAID 0 w/ win 7. TRIM is now supported by Intel in Raid 0.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167016&cm_re=x25-m-_-20-167-016-_-Product

With that Raid setup, I'm not sure you'd even need a RAM disk (not sure whether performance difference will be noticeable). No expert there though, perhaps some1 else has experience?

 

[Shadow703793]

TRIM is now supported by Intel in Raid 0.

When did this happen?

 

[mindless728]

the only thing i can think of is the windows software raid-0

 

[shortstuff_mt]

TRIM is now supported by Intel in Raid 0.

When did this happen?

It hasn't. I just verified this on the Intel forums. Here's an article that spells it out pretty well too.

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18653

"The latest: Intel® RST 9.6 will be released this week which includes TRIM support for SSDs. It will support TRIM with SSDs in an AHCI configuration, or with the RAID controller enabled and the SSD is used as a pass through device. An example of this use case is for users that want to use the SSD as a boot drive but still be able to RAID multiple HDDs together to allow for large protect data storage – a great use for the home theater PC. TRIM support for SSDs in a RAID configuration is under investigation and is not included in Intel® RST 9.6."

The article was written less than a month ago.

 

[mindless728]

CPU: 2 x Intel Xeon E5630
COOLER: 2 x ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7
MOBO: SUPERMICRO MBD-X8DTH-iF-O
RAM: 2 x Patriot Signature 12GB (3 x 4GB)
GPU: PNY VCQFX5500-PCIE-PB Quadro FX 5500
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX
HDD: 3 x SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ
SSD: 2 x Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2M080G2XXX 2.5" 80GB
CASE: COOLER MASTER HAF 932
ODD: LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL

Total: $4,664.81

the ram leaves 6 open slots if you need more, but still the 24GB you wanted originally, the Mobo has all pci-e 2.0 x16 (x8 electrically) for video card and if you need anything else pci-e (raid card), and i used many of the same parts as you chose. This has no OS so $100 more and you would have Win7 Home Premium 64bit

 

[Shadow703793]

^Agreed. Well built. +1. Only change I'd probably make is to the HSF; I'd get 2x 120mm Core Contact Freezers: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207004&cm_re=core_contact_freezer-_-35-207-004-_-Product

HOWEVER, I'm not sure if 2x of these will fit in the HAF932.

 

[Shadow703793]

It hasn't. I just verified this on the Intel forums. Here's an article that spells it out pretty well too.

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18653

"The latest: Intel® RST 9.6 will be released this week which includes TRIM support for SSDs. It will support TRIM with SSDs in an AHCI configuration, or with the RAID controller enabled and the SSD is used as a pass through device. An example of this use case is for users that want to use the SSD as a boot drive but still be able to RAID multiple HDDs together to allow for large protect data storage – a great use for the home theater PC. TRIM support for SSDs in a RAID configuration is under investigation and is not included in Intel® RST 9.6."

The article was written less than a month ago.

Thank you for clearing that up.

 

[mindless728]

^Agreed. Well built. +1. Only change I'd probably make is to the HSF; I'd get 2x 120mm Core Contact Freezers: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207004&cm_re=core_contact_freezer-_-35-207-004-_-Product

HOWEVER, I'm not sure if 2x of these will fit in the HAF932.

well i was sticking to as many of the parts as he did, though i don't think a 120mm tower is necessary since the Xeons that are in the build are only 80w variants

 

[Shadow703793]

^ Ahh.... good point. I was thinking about the 130W i7 9x0s. :lol:

 

[mutamusmaximus]

CPU: 2 x Intel Xeon E5630
COOLER: 2 x ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7
MOBO: SUPERMICRO MBD-X8DTH-iF-O
RAM: 2 x Patriot Signature 12GB (3 x 4GB)
GPU: PNY VCQFX5500-PCIE-PB Quadro FX 5500
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX
HDD: 3 x SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ
SSD: 2 x Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2M080G2XXX 2.5" 80GB
CASE: COOLER MASTER HAF 932
ODD: LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL

Total: $4,664.81

the ram leaves 6 open slots if you need more, but still the 24GB you wanted originally, the Mobo has all pci-e 2.0 x16 (x8 electrically) for video card and if you need anything else pci-e (raid card), and i used many of the same parts as you chose. This has no OS so $100 more and you would have Win7 Home Premium 64bit

Should I raid0 the two SSDs.

 

[mutamusmaximus]

Thank you all for your help. I believe that I will be purchasing this setup very soon. Unless there is anything else I would have to know. I will be getting a windows 7 home ed.

 

[mindless728]

Should I raid0 the two SSDs.

i would use one SSD as the boot drive, the other for a scratch disk if needed (or putting the videos you are working on before editing)

i would have 2 of the 1TB for storage and programs (if they don't all fit on the 80GB intel) in a raid-1 (mirror)

and i would have the 3rd 1TB as an external backup only used for backing up the main drives once a week or so (so its not on all of the time)

 

[mutamusmaximus]

Best answer selected by mutamusmaximus.

 

[mutamusmaximus]

I am not using the motherboard provided in the best answer I am using this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182185

 

[mindless728]

the motherboard i said will work, the slots are x16 physically and x8 electrically, so the card will fit, and i doubt it will be bottlenecked

 

[mutamusmaximus]

the motherboard i said will work, the slots are x16 physically and x8 electrically, so the card will fit, and i doubt it will be bottlenecked

I really feel dumb LOL I am going through a whole bunch of things right now since I got this other board. I have to get it updated and the only way to do that is send it to them or get a xeon 5500. Thought that you mixed up the x 8 slots but I see that it is a physical x16 LOL. Oh well. I RMA the other board back now im in hte process of RMAing this board to microboards. Though, I'm really tempted to just RMA the board back to newegg and start over with the board you had LOL.

 

[mindless728]

I really feel dumb LOL I am going through a whole bunch of things right now since I got this other board. I have to get it updated and the only way to do that is send it to them or get a xeon 5500. Thought that you mixed up the x 8 slots but I see that it is a physical x16 LOL. Oh well. I RMA the other board back now im in hte process of RMAing this board to microboards. Though, I'm really tempted to just RMA the board back to newegg and start over with the board you had LOL.

its possible the board i put in the build would need the bios updated as well, depends on which bios you would get shipped

 

[mutamusmaximus]

its possible the board i put in the build would need the bios updated as well, depends on which bios you would get shipped

Well, Im not sure. I think on newegg it did say that it did. Im sending the board ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182185&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID= ) to supermicro to get updated tomorrow. It should work they can even check the board if I did any damage to it at all. So thats a comforting thought. I got to say I learned a lot from this lol. Oh yeah, the Nvidia Quadro 5500 I got is gonna have to go back because Adobe CS5 has some feature on there that this card can't do. Thanks for the info on the Windows 7 Pro. You have been a real help man. Thanks a lot. If you want to see the site we are working on and what the computer is mainly for here it is ----> www.illbehonest.com

Thanks a ton!

 

[mindless728]

Well, Im not sure. I think on newegg it did say that it did. Im sending the board ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182185&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID= ) to supermicro to get updated tomorrow. It should work they can even check the board if I did any damage to it at all. So thats a comforting thought. I got to say I learned a lot from this lol. Oh yeah, the Nvidia Quadro 5500 I got is gonna have to go back because Adobe CS5 has some feature on there that this card can't do. Thanks for the info on the Windows 7 Pro. You have been a real help man. Thanks a lot. If you want to see the site we are working on and what the computer is mainly for here it is ----> www.illbehonest.com

Thanks a ton!

well i hope you get the board bac

btw i enjoy doing builds like this, and i would love to build a machine this powerful, though i still would have used the other board just to have all pci-e slots, but thats just a preference of mine (i personally think pci should have been kicked to the curb a while ago)