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May 27, 2012 9:51:27 PM

I have 2 hard disks in my system now. I used a utility called Mini Tool Partition Wizard to copy my 80GB disk onto a 320GB WD Caviar. I have modified the bootloader with the handy dandy easybcd program. Now when I boot my machine there are 2 choices for a Windows7 operating system. With the new one all I get is a black screen. What does this mean? I can see all the files copied on the drive. The Mini Tool created a drive D: (System reserved) and it made the copy of drive C: onto drive E. Why does it create this separate system reserved drive? I assume those files are located on the 320GB hd. Does booting the machine need to access that?


Thanks for the help.

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a c 261 G Storage
May 27, 2012 9:53:04 PM

Clone or copy? Big difference since clone should work!
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a b G Storage
May 27, 2012 9:56:37 PM

Tell me which drive System Reserved is in. Go to disk management in windows 7 (It may show up as create and format hard disk partitions).

Now which hard drive do you want to boot from? If it's from the 320GB, unplug your 80GB and see if it boots from your 320 GB.

+1 to rolli59, cloning makes a difference.
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May 27, 2012 11:26:32 PM

Well, why doesn't this tool do what it's supposed to do? My C: drive is the 80GB which works. Then there is D: which called system reserved. Then Drive E is the 320GB. I want to boot from either drive. Right now I have dual boot setup, it's just that the 320GB doesn't go into windows. It just sits there with a black screen.
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May 28, 2012 5:18:35 AM

It's the copy routine on the program.
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a b G Storage
May 28, 2012 6:54:31 AM

I think you should retry and do it with a cloning program, not just copy over.
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a c 261 G Storage
May 28, 2012 11:15:24 AM

Cloning will do an exact copy of your 80GB on to the 320GB.
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a b G Storage
May 28, 2012 1:36:38 PM

U could try acronis FREE WD edition since u had WD HDD... (I'm using it to backup/clone the HDD)

edit : I would clone C: OS and D: System ---> restore it to 320GB, I not sure about restoring MBR to bigger HDD, never try it before......

correct me if i'm wrong by restoring mbr u will get C: and D: in new WD, and unallocated space for new partition.....

(the part of "unallocated space" that i'm not know well, it could be free or it just destroy the remaining space in HDD.. so Please be a lab rat for me ... hauhaha)

joking, ehm... i will let the other fill the info about unallocated space or if u eventually try it, i hope u post the result.....
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a b G Storage
May 28, 2012 2:36:29 PM

Yes, you need to do a clone, not copy. Copying will not include certain system files and the boot manager segment of the drive that are needed to make the drive bootable. You must use a program that is specifically created to move a drive with an OS installed to another drive, and make it a bootable partition.
Acronis True Image will do this, drive sizes only need to be big enough to hold the amount of data being cloned, bigger or smaller total drive space is not an issue, and the extra space can be allocated as part of the cloning/cloned partition, or made into an entirely separate partition/s as desired.
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May 28, 2012 4:40:45 PM

That's just fantastic. You mean now that I have copied 70GB of files from my old drive to my new drive, I have to now wipe the drive again and start over with a cloning program? Come on...this can't be the case.

Does anyone on this forum have experience with this software? It's only been downloaded about 5 million times on cnet.com
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a c 261 G Storage
May 28, 2012 5:29:14 PM

Copy does not work cloning does so if the software has a cloning function use it! Watch the video looks like this is cloning, here http://www.partitionwizard.com/video-help/copydiskwizar... They explain how to make the destination disk bootable by disconnecting the source disk.
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a b G Storage
May 28, 2012 5:34:26 PM

sking said:
That's just fantastic. You mean now that I have copied 70GB of files from my old drive to my new drive, I have to now wipe the drive again and start over with a cloning program? Come on...this can't be the case.

Does anyone on this forum have experience with this software? It's only been downloaded about 5 million times on cnet.com



It would take less time to start over and redo than what you have spent so far trying to find a work around. Its going to take you what, 30 minutes to do it over again? If it took longer than that to start with, there must have been issues from the very beginning of some kind!
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May 28, 2012 6:57:39 PM

I disconnected my source disk and attempted to reboot. Didn't work. Isn't it bad to continue wiping used hard drives? It was used before and already wiped. I'm waiting for a response from support. If I have to wipe it again and clone you recommend acronis true image? Does the free trial make a bootable clone?
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a c 261 G Storage
May 28, 2012 7:29:12 PM

It is not that bad I have a 6 year old drive that has been formatted many times, is in the fourth computer! I believe the free trial does make a clone!
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May 28, 2012 8:22:34 PM

I have wiped the drive with the acronis software. Now when I try the clone disk, I select the source disk, but then in the next screen I can't select any of the disks as the destination disk. Do I have to reformat? I thought this wasn't going to delete any partitions. There is a red circle with a white x in it for this drive.

I cannot even see either my C: or E: drive under disk management. E:\ is not accessible. Access is denied
This is the message I get. I can't change the permissions. What is going on here? I tried to create a partition with Acronis, and I can't do that..When I try to "add a disk" in acronis, I select my large disk, and a message pops up saying there are partitions on the disk which could contain useful information, press ok to delete. So I press ok, but it never allows me to advanced to the next screen of the wizard...
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a b G Storage
May 29, 2012 2:38:15 AM

Err.. what did u do? step by step..
system partition is never able be accessed.

- First i will dell/format 320 Gb WD drive.....

- Second Run Acronis making clone for drive C: and D: than save it in DVD/Flasdisk/external HDD (size vary depend the size of data cloned and compression level)

- Third make Bootable Acronis Disk from Acronis software in CD/DVD/Flashdisk (only +400mb size)

- Four Shut down, Boot from Bootable Acronis disk, and run Acronis True image

- Last insert cloned image flashdisk/dvd/external HDD. Select the image and restore it to 320 Gb WD

U are done. Disconnect the old drive letting WD drive alone and boot from there.........

That how i would clone HDD.......
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May 29, 2012 7:57:53 PM

I have managed to get my disk cloned. I didn't do it the way you described though, and I just used the Acronis wizard. Selected source, selected destination. I was able to get ownership of the drive. It will will not boot though. If I select the new drive as the 1st hard drive in the boot sequence (and I should be able to boot from either drive) , I get the message that BOOMGR is missing. What can I do about this?
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a c 261 G Storage
May 29, 2012 8:33:55 PM

Basically what it means is the bootmgr is still on the other drive. Did you try booting up from it with the other one disconnected?
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May 29, 2012 11:55:25 PM

Yes, I tried that once with no luck. Once again, I want to be able to boot from either drive. To me that means there should be a bootmgr on both drives?
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a b G Storage
May 30, 2012 2:43:40 AM

Files needed to Boot Win 7 is in system partition (100 mb ones). it will need to be cloned and restored to the new drive .... (dunno why they put in there, it is a hassle when there an failure but maybe it's security issue)

If the system partition is already been restored and mbr also been restored to new drive, u still cannot boot that confusing.......

there is a turn around way to do it if u had no luck,

- U could make simple 80 Gb partition in WD,
- Disconect the old HDD.
- install w7 in WD 80Gb partition, it will create system partition automatically..
- After finish. Restore the C: image backup to the new installed WD 80Gb partition.
- U will get your old win back and all other things in there.
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May 30, 2012 3:01:37 AM

I don't have a Windows 7 disk...if I did I wouldn't be sitting here trying to clone my old disk.

I tried to boot from the WD and it tries to start Windows. I can see the white text "Starting Windows" but those little icons whirling around never appear and it just hangs there. The clone should be fine. There is another partition sitting on the drive call D: which is system reserved 61MB. What is that? Why is it there?

I used the Acronis program which everyone thinks is so great and it will make a bootable disk. Well.... guess again... This program just creates a mess. I followed their freaking instructions for cloning and this is what I"m left with.

I used a program called EasyBCD to edit the booloader and this is what it says:

There are a total of 2 entries listed in the bootloader.

Default: Microsoft Windows 7
Timeout: 30 seconds
EasyBCD Boot Device: D:\

Entry #1
Name: Windows 7
BCD ID: {current}
Drive: C:\
Bootloader Path: \Windows\system32\winload.exe

Entry #2
Name: Microsoft Windows 7
BCD ID: {default}
Drive: E:\
Bootloader Path: \Windows\system32\winload.exe
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May 30, 2012 4:46:41 AM

I'm not cloning my files again. I need the bootmgr missing error fixed. What is this D: partition ? 100MB. System reserved. My C: Drive doesn't have a separate partition on it. Does it? This partition is on the new drive. What is its purpose? Does it have the MBR information?
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a b G Storage
May 30, 2012 5:14:27 AM

fantastik250 said:
It contains boot files. Usually, if you delete it will not make your system boot. What you need to do is unplug your 80GB hard drive and fix the boot manager for your 320GB.

Please read here:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/window...



err it no longer free to DL ...





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May 31, 2012 2:56:58 AM

I downloaded this iso file and payed the 10.95. What a ripoff. I burned it to a disk. I have unplugged both of my drives. My machine does not recognize the disk in the CD rom as a bootable disk. What an exercise in futility....What do I do now? Why doesn't my machine recognize the cd rom?
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a b G Storage
May 31, 2012 4:16:38 AM

did u setup BIOS to set to boot from DVD, some mobo need to press a key to boot from dvd. If it still cannot detected try in other computer u may had bad optic drive. If it not detected in other than it's a scam.

When u use wizard to clone did u clone the system partition and os partition or only the os partition?

If u still done nothing to the old hdd u can try to restart the process again. Format the WD, re-clone again using wizard or use my step creating backup image in external hdd and boot able acronis disk.

If u had deleted the old HDD than no way to help without windows installation disk (u don't need genuine one because u will replace it with your own later). I'm do not trust windows restore and backup (It had fail me lot's of times, so I chose third parties one)

If u can DL/get from friend win installation disk There a way but included couple of long step. U will need External HDD or flash disk big enough to contain the image.

So u install win trial in 80gig, install acronis, backup the old os from WD to External hdd, create boot able disk, restore it to 80Gb, format the wd. restart cloning process to WD.

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May 31, 2012 5:39:47 AM

Yes, I set the bios to boot from dvd. My computer is screwed up now. It says my copy of windows 7 is not genuine. Is that a whole other issue?

When I try to boot from the Windows 7 operating system on the new big drive, I can see the drivers going by and it always stops at vdrvroot.sys Either this is corrupt or it can't load the file coming after it. Am I right?

I don't think that Acronis asks for which partition to clone, you just pick the whole drive as the source and select the destination.

Yes, I downloaded this disk from http://systemdiscs.com/Home/Features
What a waste of money. Maybe I'll get a refund. I followed their instructions exactly and I even downloaded the Imgburn program and burned it to disk with this program. It successfully completed the thing. I get to a screen in the bootup that says to put the bootable media into the disk drive and press a key. I do this and it just keeps repeating its message.

What a hassle. I really wanted to fix this myself.

I was able to run the system recovery from my C: drive. I tried to run the start
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a b G Storage
May 31, 2012 10:59:08 AM

Sorry about your issue. It's fairly difficult if I was in your position. Yea, it's better to get your money back if it didn't work.
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a b G Storage
June 2, 2012 1:39:37 PM

sking said:
I don't have a Windows 7 disk...if I did I wouldn't be sitting here trying to clone my old disk.

I tried to boot from the WD and it tries to start Windows. I can see the white text "Starting Windows" but those little icons whirling around never appear and it just hangs there. The clone should be fine. There is another partition sitting on the drive call D: which is system reserved 61MB. What is that? Why is it there?

I used the Acronis program which everyone thinks is so great and it will make a bootable disk. Well.... guess again... This program just creates a mess. I followed their freaking instructions for cloning and this is what I"m left with.

I used a program called EasyBCD to edit the booloader and this is what it says:

There are a total of 2 entries listed in the bootloader.

Default: Microsoft Windows 7
Timeout: 30 seconds
EasyBCD Boot Device: D:\

Entry #1
Name: Windows 7
BCD ID: {current}
Drive: C:\
Bootloader Path: \Windows\system32\winload.exe

Entry #2
Name: Microsoft Windows 7
BCD ID: {default}
Drive: E:\
Bootloader Path: \Windows\system32\winload.exe


Acronis works. You created this mess the first time to tried to copy your drive and did not do it correctly. If you are using a legal copy of Windows 7 you really should have the install disk, right?
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June 3, 2012 4:52:45 AM

That's wrong addict. I bought my PC from a shop where it was just preinstalled and I wasn't given a disk.

Anyways, the problem is now solved. There was never anything i did wrong with the creation of the iso disks. The PROBLEM turned out to be that my CDROM drive can't read DVDs... Solution...Installed new CD ROM drive and I finally got the message "press any key to boot from CD" message. This was never displayed before.

Thanks for all the help though.
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a b G Storage
June 3, 2012 11:58:04 PM

sking said:
That's wrong addict. I bought my PC from a shop where it was just preinstalled and I wasn't given a disk.

Anyways, the problem is now solved. There was never anything i did wrong with the creation of the iso disks. The PROBLEM turned out to be that my CDROM drive can't read DVDs... Solution...Installed new CD ROM drive and I finally got the message "press any key to boot from CD" message. This was never displayed before.

Thanks for all the help though.



Okay, well, glad you got it working.
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