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Can I get something for my old Athlon 64 3500+ (2.2) ?

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March 27, 2010 2:37:02 AM

I've got a really old computer that can't play much of anything. (Compaq SR1750NX) I'm just trying to get something for $60 or less, that will work with my PC and allow me to play stuff like Half-Life 2 and other old games from as early as like 2004. I want to be able to play stuff from 2004, 2005, 2006 and maybe even a few 2007 ones at lower settings. I will be running it in 1280 x 720p on my projector, and 1360 x 768 on a 50" plasma. Here are my specs:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00...

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Processor
ASUS A8AE-LE motheboard
1GB PC3200 DDR Memory
* Three PCI
* One PCI Express (No AGP slot)
Radeon X1300



Any specific card I should be looking for around $60 ish or less? Obviously, the 3500+ will definitely become the bottleneck for whichever GPU I get, so might as well not go overboard.

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a c 235 U Graphics card
March 27, 2010 3:20:14 AM

your best bet may be ebay

PCI-E x1 cards are very over priced and PCI is not that much better in terms of price
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March 27, 2010 4:39:09 AM

ct1615 said:
your best bet may be ebay

PCI-E x1 cards are very over priced and PCI is not that much better in terms of price


Aren't the cards beyond PCI-E x1 backwards compatible?
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a c 376 U Graphics card
March 27, 2010 4:56:54 AM

PCI-E 2.0 is backward compatible. x1 vs x16 is another topic entirely. Basically you shouldn't bother. However for not too much money you can upgrade motherboard/CPU/ram/video card. Something like an Athlon II x2 + a cheap motherboard for it + 2gb DDR2 800 + an HD4670 can be had for less than $200. Your system will then be much faster in general and could handle all current game at modest resolutions(1280x1024 and below.)
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a c 1363 U Graphics card
March 27, 2010 12:10:26 PM

The RealAnthony1 said:
I've got a really old computer that can't play much of anything. (Compaq SR1750NX) I'm just trying to get something for $60 or less, that will work with my PC and allow me to play stuff like Half-Life 2 and other old games from as early as like 2004. I want to be able to play stuff from 2004, 2005, 2006 and maybe even a few 2007 ones at lower settings. I will be running it in 1280 x 720p on my projector, and 1360 x 768 on a 50" plasma. Here are my specs:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00...

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Processor
ASUS A8AE-LE motheboard
1GB PC3200 DDR Memory
* Three PCI
* One PCI Express (No AGP slot)
Radeon X1300



Any specific card I should be looking for around $60 ish or less? Obviously, the 3500+ will definitely become the bottleneck for whichever GPU I get, so might as well not go overboard.

One of these should able you to reach your goal http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
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a c 376 U Graphics card
March 27, 2010 2:01:18 PM

He can't use any of the cards in that link. His PCIE port is x1.
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March 28, 2010 1:35:23 AM

Is there any chance that this card would work:

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?s...


It's a HD 4670 1GB. It's a PCI Express 2.0 x16 card, but I'm not positive if it will work in my PC or not. This dude locally on Craigslist is selling it, and he's asking for $85, but maybe I could snag it from him for about $55 or $60. I think it's slightly better than the 4650 that was recommended.
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March 28, 2010 1:41:07 AM

same cpu i have OMG!!!!
i guess im not the only one with an outdated computer around here...
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a c 1363 U Graphics card
March 28, 2010 1:51:24 AM

The RealAnthony1 said:
Is there any chance that this card would work:

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?s...


It's a HD 4670 1GB. It's a PCI Express 2.0 x16 card, but I'm not positive if it will work in my PC or not. This dude locally on Craigslist is selling it, and he's asking for $85, but maybe I could snag it from him for about $55 or $60. I think it's slightly better than the 4650 that was recommended.

It is a bit better you can snatch them up new for less than $70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E... so if you are going to buy it used for the price you mention, it has to include shipping.
For cards at that performance level the size of the memory 1GB or 512MB does not matter performance wise.
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March 28, 2010 1:58:11 AM

it does matter, you will get better perfromance at high resolutions with more graphics memory. i dont know ur resolution, but i wouldnt pay more than $5 extra for more grapohics memory
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a c 1363 U Graphics card
March 28, 2010 2:05:23 AM

shovenose said:
it does matter, you will get better perfromance at high resolutions with more graphics memory. i dont know ur resolution, but i wouldnt pay more than $5 extra for more grapohics memory

At high resolution with HD4650/70 eye candy (AA AF) turned on? You would be looking at a slide show anyway.
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March 28, 2010 2:21:23 AM

One other thing I was thinking about....


Here is my longer term strategy:

I haven't been a PC Gamer since 1999, 2000. Because I've been out of it so long, I thought that I would try to just dip my toes in the water by getting a decent video card for this really old 3500+ Athlon 64. I would focus on playing older PC games that don't have hardcore hardware requirements, or just playing them on pretty low settings. Basically, just getting a taste of things. I've never played Half-Life 2 all the way thru, so I'm hoping a video card upgrade will allow that.

Anyways, to make a long story short, I'm planning a legit PC build for later this year. I'm very interested in running dual 4870's in crossfire. Looking at various charts, it appears that crossfired 4870's are like a poor man's 5970. Now, if I plunk down $40 to $50 on a 512mb 4670, that is $40 or $50 that could have went to a 4870. The thing is, I could probably find a 4870 on Ebay for around $135 ish, so I'm basically paying almost an extra $100. The advantage though, is that when I do my crossfire setup, I'll already have one of the 4870's.

The thing is, do I need to get a new power supply to be able to run the 4870? In fact, do I need a new power supply even to run a 4670 or 4650? I've looked around on the compaq support site trying to find specific information on the power supply inside there but can find it. Once I turn this damn PC off, I can open it up and try to take a closer look at the PSU.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
March 28, 2010 2:28:23 AM

You don't want the HD4870 at this point, especially for crossfire. It has been replaced in ATIs lineup by the HD5770 which is DX11 compatible, smaller, cooler and much more power efficient. The power/heat part is especially important for crossfire. 2 in crossfire will give you performance similar to an HD5870. The card starts at around $150 new and yeah, you will need a new PSU for either.
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a c 1363 U Graphics card
March 28, 2010 2:35:50 AM

HD4650/70 you don't need a new psu. If you go for a better card lets say HD5770 then you would buy the PSU you would need for you new system later this year. This is a decision you will have to take.
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March 28, 2010 3:41:57 AM

jyjjy said:
You don't want the HD4870 at this point, especially for crossfire. It has been replaced in ATIs lineup by the HD5770 which is DX11 compatible, smaller, cooler and much more power efficient. The power/heat part is especially important for crossfire. 2 in crossfire will give you performance similar to an HD5870. The card starts at around $150 new and yeah, you will need a new PSU for either.



I've read alot about the HD 5770. While it's tempting to go DX11 right now, I honestly think the whole DX11 thing won't really be a major factor till damn near 2012. There are so few DX11 supported games, and even the ones that support it don't really support it whole hog. It's almost like they are throwing in a DX11 feature here or there just for the sake of marketing. No engines are being made from the ground up with DX11 in mind. Also, considering the fact that developing a good game takes about 3 years, I really don't think we will get any seriously amazing DX11 games until 4th quarter 2011. By that time, I will be selling off my dual 4870's, and finally going with a DX11 card. I figure I'll be upgrading my GPU about every 10 or 11 months. So, I will need an upgrade at that point anyway.

Looking at the Graphics Card Hierarchy chart here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,...

According to that, Crossfired 4870's are only second to the biggest bad boy of them all, the 5970. They have the Crossfired 4870's rated every so slightly higher than a single 5870, and slightly more powerful than a GTX 295. I really think that dual 4870's would give me plenty of power to hold me over for about 10 months. Then I can upgrade to something even much more powerful than the current 5970. Or, maybe at that time running Crossfired 5970's at that point will make more sense.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
March 28, 2010 1:19:01 PM

Eh, it's a mistake to dismiss DX11, already most of the major games being released are DX11 compatible. The cards are equal in performance so there is no advantage at all to getting HD4870s unless you want a higher power bill, possible heat issues and less features so I don't understand why you would consider it. Here is an article on crossfired HD5770s;
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-h...
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March 28, 2010 11:10:16 PM

This is kinda off-topic to the rest of this thread, but in todays newspaper (where I live locally), there is an ad for a Asus Nvidia GeForce 8400GS 512MB PCI-Express for $14.99 after rebates from Fry's Electronics. The price is $49.99, but then an instant $15 rebate, and then another $20 mail in rebate. Basically, it would cost me $38.06 out the door, and then eventually I would get the $20 rebate in the mail, for a final price of $18.06.

The downside is that it's DDR2 memory, and not DDR3. Still, only 18 bucks!
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a c 1363 U Graphics card
March 29, 2010 2:21:49 AM

The RealAnthony1 said:
This is kinda off-topic to the rest of this thread, but in todays newspaper (where I live locally), there is an ad for a Asus Nvidia GeForce 8400GS 512MB PCI-Express for $14.99 after rebates from Fry's Electronics. The price is $49.99, but then an instant $15 rebate, and then another $20 mail in rebate. Basically, it would cost me $38.06 out the door, and then eventually I would get the $20 rebate in the mail, for a final price of $18.06.

The downside is that it's DDR2 memory, and not DDR3. Still, only 18 bucks!

Good backup card but sucks for gaming.
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March 29, 2010 2:24:34 AM

still better than any graphcs card I have ever owned LOLOLOLOL!
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a c 172 U Graphics card
March 29, 2010 2:40:02 AM

LOLZ mine only cost me $10.25 when I got lucky on an eBay auction. I later flashed the card to 460/1250/425. The shader maxes out just under 1.8ghz.
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