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April 21, 2010 10:54:14 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 1 month or 3-4 months. The purchase date really depends on another factor; I can wait 3-4 month to assemble this computer but would that provide any real benefits? I'm hoping prices on the 5870 will drop with the 5970 diverting the high-end market's attention, but I'm not too savvy on the tech market and what's in the works.

BUDGET RANGE: 1000-1200 (including an OS), with rebates and without the monitor.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming (generally to keep me involved in the upcoming RTS and MMO scene), surfing the internet, general media, school (word processing and some stats work, nothing demanding)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Mouse, keyboard, and speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com, tigerdirect.com, frys, zipzoomfly.com pretty much any good online/local store that offers shipping.

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: I would prefer to use an Intel cpu, but other than that none.

OVERCLOCKING: Yes, but nothing hardcore.

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Pretty unlikely, having the capability would be nice.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680 x 1050 or 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: The top price cap is a little flexible if an extra $100 could buy a substantial upgrade, but otherwise the more money in my pocket the better :p . I'm unsure of the monitor resolution as 1680 x 1050 will give better frame rates and, from what I've read, there's little or no discernible difference while gaming between the two resolutions on a 22 or 23in monitor. The reason I'm considering the 1920 x 1080 resolution is because they cost the same or only slightly more than 1680 x 1050 monitors, I would value performance more than a slight detail increase. The build I'm proposing could handle either resolution well, but some more input on the issue would be great!


Here's a prospective build based off of the recommended builds by usage thread, with a few changes. Like it, tear it apart, or start from scratch, let me know what you think.

CPU: Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
MOBO: ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
HSF: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W
GPU: XFX HD-587X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5870 1GB
DVD: LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R
CASE: COOLER MASTER HAF 922
MONITOR: 1680 x 1050 ASUS VW224U Black 22" or 1920 x 1080 ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen Full HD 1080P

$1305 without rebates or monitor and OS included.


Thanks for the help!
April 21, 2010 11:14:30 PM

SocialistCow said:
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 1 month or 3-4 months. The purchase date really depends on another factor; I can wait 3-4 month to assemble this computer but would that provide any real benefits? I'm hoping prices on the 5870 will drop with the 5970 diverting the high-end market's attention, but I'm not too savvy on the tech market and what's in the works.

BUDGET RANGE: 1000-1200 (including an OS), with rebates and without the monitor.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming (generally to keep me involved in the upcoming RTS and MMO scene), surfing the internet, general media, school (word processing and some stats work, nothing demanding)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Mouse, keyboard, and speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com, tigerdirect.com, frys, zipzoomfly.com pretty much any good online/local store that offers shipping.

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES: I would prefer to use an Intel cpu, but other than that none.

OVERCLOCKING: Yes, but nothing hardcore.

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Pretty unlikely, having the capability would be nice.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680 x 1050 or 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: The top price cap is a little flexible if an extra $100 could buy a substantial upgrade, but otherwise the more money in my pocket the better :p . I'm unsure of the monitor resolution as 1680 x 1050 will give better frame rates and, from what I've read, there's little or no discernible difference while gaming between the two resolutions on a 22 or 23in monitor. The reason I'm considering the 1920 x 1080 resolution is because they cost the same or only slightly more than 1680 x 1050 monitors, I would value performance more than a slight detail increase. The build I'm proposing could handle either resolution well, but some more input on the issue would be great!


Here's a prospective build based off of the recommended builds by usage thread, with a few changes. Like it, tear it apart, or start from scratch, let me know what you think.

CPU: Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
MOBO: ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
HSF: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W
GPU: XFX HD-587X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5870 1GB
DVD: LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R
CASE: COOLER MASTER HAF 922
MONITOR: 1680 x 1050 ASUS VW224U Black 22" or 1920 x 1080 ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen Full HD 1080P

$1305 without rebates or monitor and OS included.


Thanks for the help!


Pretty standard build, pretty obvious you have been surfing these forums, most of these are the top recommendations. I have no advise. Nicely done.
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April 21, 2010 11:34:18 PM

^+1. Agreed.

@OP:
Well done. It's more or less what I would have recommended.

As far as price drop goes, I really doubt the prices will drop much for the GPUs. Perhaps a max drop of $30 or so.

As for LCD, get a 1920*1080 22" MINIMUM (if you can, get a 24-28"). I'd get the 23" ASUS.

The 5870 should be able to play most games at that resolution. Since you said MMO/RTS, I'm assuming WoW and Starcraft II? Yes, this PC will run those at 1920*1080 with full detail. In either case, you can grab a 2nd 5870 down the road when you need more power and/or prices drop to ~$150-250 level in a year or two. Your motherboard can do CrossFire btw.

Note: If you do plan to CrossFire, get a Corsair 750TX.
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April 21, 2010 11:36:18 PM

The Antec EA750 only has about 670watts on it's 12V rails, so I would not use it to crossfire 5870s as you need around 700watts to provide a good "buffer/margin for error". If you absolutely are not going to crossfire then a good 550W PSU would be my recommendation. A good 750W PSU that is around the same price is this: Antec Truepower New Modular TP-750 80Plus Bronze
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April 22, 2010 12:10:08 AM

As it stands, Intel does not make anything for the LGA 1156 socket anymore. So, some may classify it as a "dead socket." If you want to upgrade your CPU in the future, not have to buy another mobo , and stay in the Intel line, you would need to go for an I7 CPU and a compatible mobo.

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April 22, 2010 12:40:49 AM

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Pretty standard build, pretty obvious you have been surfing these forums, most of these are the top recommendations. I have no advise. Nicely done.


Indeed I have, this forum has all the info I need, thanks for the confirmation.

@ Shadow703793:

Thanks for the advice, I'll take a look at the Corsair 750TX.

And yes, WoW and SC2 would be included in that MMO/RTS category, how did you know? :whistle: 

I understand this build could handle 1920 x 1080 but would going with a lower resolution substantially add to its viable lifespan?

As far as crossfiring goes, you predicted it correctly.

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As it stands, Intel does not make anything for the LGA 1156 socket anymore. So, some may classify it as a "dead socket." If you want to upgrade your CPU in the future, not have to buy another mobo , and stay in the Intel line, you would need to go for an I7 CPU and a compatible mobo.


The 1156 socket isn't the newest but a 1366 package would push the price up quite a bit, unless i went with the ASRock X58 Extreme & Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz. The mobo's poor reviews have kinda scared me off from that combination though. For my purposes, it seems the i5 750 would serve me well for quite a while, but, you're right, the old socket is a little concerning.

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April 22, 2010 1:45:38 AM

To keep this build compatible with possible future upgrades, I put together this 1366 build https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.as... to compare to the listed 1156 build https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.as.... For $115 more I'd get a 930 cpu, 1366 mobo, and 2gb more memory, although slightly slower (cas9 instead of cas7). Seems like putting down some extra cash now would save me some in the future if I plan to upgrade, any thoughts?
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April 22, 2010 1:47:42 AM

^ You could always go with an AM3 build.... there is suppose to be a 6 core Phenom II X6 released end of Q2 2010...

At any rate, a good Dual/Tri/Quad with ~3Ghz will be fine for gaming. At high resolutions (as in 1680*1050), CPU doesn't make much of a difference: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2775/9
Take a look at the benches between the X2 and X4. You really wouldn't notice the fps difference between the top 5 CPUs in that link in a MMORPG/RTS.

In general, with the exception of games like GTAIV, FSX, a good Dual/Tri core with high clock speed will be more than enough.

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I understand this build could handle 1920 x 1080 but would going with a lower resolution substantially add to its viable lifespan?

No actually. For an LCD, you want the highest resolution you can get since a good LCD will last you 3-5+ years easily where as a card will last about a year to 1.5 years (in terms of performance). The next gen cards will be able to play at that setting (1920/1080) @120+ fps all maxed out lol.

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April 22, 2010 1:55:11 AM

SocialistCow said:
To keep this build compatible with possible future upgrades, I put together this 1366 build https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.as... to compare to the listed 1156 build https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.as.... For $115 more I'd get a 930 cpu, 1366 mobo, and 2gb more memory, although slightly slower (cas9 instead of cas7). Seems like putting down some extra cash now would save me some in the future if I plan to upgrade, any thoughts?

You need to make the wish list public.
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April 22, 2010 2:16:50 AM

The 1156 socket is not anymore a dying socket than the 1366. Other threads on this very forum would tell you that.
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April 22, 2010 2:59:30 AM

@shadow703793
Six cores seems...excessive
And point taken about the screen resolutions/GPU performance, thanks for putting it into perspective.
The wish lists are public, but I guess it takes some time. So here's a lists of links

CPU: Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz
MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R
RAM: G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
HSF: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W
GPU: XFX HD-587X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5870 1GB
DVD: LITE-ON Black 24X DVD
CASE: COOLER MASTER HAF 922



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The 1156 socket is not anymore a dying socket than the 1366. Other threads on this very forum would tell you that.

I see, I'll look around the forums then, as there are two contradictory opinions in this thread.

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April 22, 2010 3:06:22 AM

Okay, thanks for the source moosology!
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April 22, 2010 3:32:01 PM

Best answer selected by SocialistCow.
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