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January 3, 2011 4:09:03 AM

My pc build:
Windows 7 Ultimate 64x
Intel i7 920 @ 2.67 ghz
evga x58 SLI
Corsair dominator 6gb ddr3 1600 tri channel
bfg gtx 295
Western Digital 500GB HDD
Corsair 850 watt psu

My question: I was looking through the newspaper today and I got to the frys ad, they have the Corsair vengeance 16gb for $210 after a $20 MIR. This caught my eye. I was thinking I could get this and sell my current RAM for maybe about $100 so I would only be spending about $110 for 16gb of ram. I know 16GB is a little overkill but do you guys think my idea is a good one? Inputs? Opinions?

A problem I'm facing right now is I am only getting 4GB of my 6GB is working. It's saying "6.00GB (3.99 GB usable) I've resat my RAM, I've taken the mobo out and replaced my CPU heatsink, updated bios, and I finally changed voltages which solved the problem for a few months but now it's back to 3.99GB. I'm thinking maybe getting new RAM could solve this possibly? I've looked for solutions and many people have this problem but there's not really any set fix for it. So yes, input would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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January 3, 2011 4:18:40 AM

Oh and also, I'm really into gaming, I spend quite a bit of time in photoshop and am looking to get into some video production as well. I use camtasia a lot to record my desktop. Would more ram help speed up the process the recorded video? I'm also looking towards the future with this and planning on keeping my computer for quite a while so maybe 16GB will be more useful in the years to come?
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January 3, 2011 3:41:17 PM

Well, you know what they say: "You can never have too much RAM or too big a hard drive..."
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January 3, 2011 3:55:55 PM

Well first, I would never get Dual Channel RAM for a Tri Channel MOBO. Yes they can work IF you installed them correctly {see below}. The TR3X6G1600C8D is about the best RAM out there...

Q - What RAM is giving you the "3.99" GB??
If it's the TR3X6G1600C8D have you just tried DRAM Frequency to {Auto}; otherwise QPI PLL Vcore -> 1.3~1.35v. I assume the DRAM Voltage = ~1.65v or 'slightly higher.' Most of the time as you've described the DIMM is under powering the RAM.

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January 3, 2011 8:58:22 PM

It's quad channel ram. I've read LOADS of people having this problem and I've tried everything, reset the ram multiple times, cleaned the ram, cleaned the slots, took the heatsink and cpu off to check for bent pins and checked if the board could be warped, updated bios, made sure my voltage and timings and everything was set correctly (checked multiple times) Checked each stick individually (all working) and I'm just stuck. I sent in a support ticket to evga and then I think I will just RMA it I guess.

I think what I'm going to do is buy the ram for the $210, sell my current ram for about $100 and sell a stick of the new ram for about $50 (hopefully a bit more) so I will only be spending about $50-$60 technically. And getting 12GB of ram for about $60 is kind of a steal I think maybe. More of a why not, I have more than enough money to get it and yeah.
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a c 347 } Memory
January 3, 2011 9:37:03 PM

So to understand this correctly, you couldn't figure out how to get your 3X2GB TR3X6G1600C8D to run...so you went and bought 4X4GB CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 hoping it would work...it don't work either...? Am I right so far?

Q - What BIOS SETTINGS are you using for the RAM?
Q - What EXACT set is installed NOW {TR3X6G1600C8D} or {CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9}?
Q - Are you trying to use BOTH sets?
Q - What Slots are the stick installed in?

It's clear in your mind, but confusing in this post.

My assumption was and still is the DRAM Voltage is wrong, and now with high density (4GB) RAM also your {IMC} QPI PLL Vcore isn't set correctly. Possibly you might have a dead DIMM slot.

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Your MOBO is Tri Channel. 2 kits of Tri Channel are called Hexa Channel Kits NOT to be confused as your MOBO being Hexa Channel. There are only 3 Channels with 1 or 2 sticks per channel. In your case if running 4 sticks {4X4GB}, your MOBO is running in Dual Channel mode with 1 or 2 sticks per channel with the THIRD Channel being blank.

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Settings TR3X6G1600C8D
Slots: CPU: | E | R | E | R | E | R | ; E = empty
1600 MHz 8-8-8-24-2T @ 1.65v
BIOS:
Memory Frequency -> 1600MHz
/timings -> 8-8-8-24
/command rate -> 2T
DRAM Voltage -> 1.65~1.68v
QPI PLL Vcore -> 1.3~1.35v

Settings CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9
Slots: CPU: | R | R | R | R | E | E | ; E = empty
1600 MHz 9-9-9-24-2T @ 1.5v
BIOS:
Memory Frequency -> 1600MHz
/timings -> 9-9-9-24
/command rate -> 2T
DRAM Voltage -> 1.55~1.60v
QPI PLL Vcore -> 1.2~1.25v
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January 3, 2011 9:41:45 PM

I don't have the new ram yet. Still trying to figure this current problem out and have been for a while now. I have the TR3X6G1600C8D.

I have my ram in the correct slots.

in bios I have it set at 1600 MHz
timings are 8-8-8-24
at +2T
voltage is at 1.65v

I'll have to change on the QPI PLL Vcore
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a c 347 } Memory
January 3, 2011 9:49:13 PM

Please note the ranges:
DRAM Voltage -> 1.65~1.68v
QPI PLL Vcore -> 1.3~1.35v

Just in case - check:
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January 3, 2011 10:08:37 PM

DRAM is now at 1.675v
QPI PLL Vcore is now at 1.35v

Boot options looks the same as yours..

still 3.99gb
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a c 347 } Memory
January 3, 2011 10:12:09 PM

What are your values; see image.
Hardware Reserved
Available
Total
Installed
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a c 347 } Memory
January 3, 2011 10:48:31 PM

Okay, at least the BIOS 'sees' the DIMM slot, so your MOBO is seems okay; no dead DIMM slot.

DRAM -> 1.65v {closet value at or above 1.65v}
QPI PLL Vcore -> Auto
CPU VTT Voltage -> 1.25v~1.32v

Failure:
My assumption will then be faulty RAM if Memtest fail 2 passes; download {ISO/zip} and create a bootbale CD/DVD - http://www.memtest.org/
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January 4, 2011 12:29:07 AM

I think it was the CPU VTT Voltage maybe, and I went down to DRAM 1.65v and I'm at 6gb again. Thanks a BUNCH for your help!
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a c 347 } Memory
January 4, 2011 12:52:11 AM

Let me know tomorrow! ;) 
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January 4, 2011 3:29:51 PM

Best answer selected by anotherjake.
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January 4, 2011 3:30:04 PM

Still working great. Thank you so very much!
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a c 347 } Memory
January 4, 2011 4:10:29 PM

I should have suggested CPU VTT Voltage first, my error, I'm confident you can put this behind you!

Enjoy! :sol: 
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January 12, 2011 2:17:55 AM

It's happening again, only 4GB's detected..
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a c 347 } Memory
January 12, 2011 11:25:00 AM

DRAM -> 1.67~1.7v
CPU VTT Voltage -> 1.32v~1.38v

Those are the highest longterm safe voltages, and if that is not working then RMA the RAM. Otherwise, voltage irregularities - home A/C, PSU, MOBO are the only other sources - but your PSU and MOBO are good quality which leads me back to RAM.
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January 12, 2011 6:55:44 PM

Last night I punched my computer out of anger, it shut off and turned back on and I have 6GB again. I'll do that if it happens again. Thanks for all your help.
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January 12, 2011 7:03:30 PM

If physical movement can make the difference, that sounds like a loose connection of some kind to me.
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January 12, 2011 7:22:07 PM

I've decided I'm going to completely rebuild my computer, maybe that will help solve the problem, I don't know..
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a c 347 } Memory
January 12, 2011 8:01:35 PM

Ehh...don't know what to say...I've been aggravated before too. I had to rebuild 10 rigs because a MOBO was determined to have a design flaw. Woodford Bourbon was my cure.
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January 13, 2011 6:38:41 AM

Well I took my computer apart, put it back together, decided to reformat too I know that wouldn't solve anything but figured why not, always nice to have a clean start. Well I'm having the same problem still, detecting 2GB's sometimes, 4GB's others but it's mostly just 2GB. I push on the sticks and sometimes that makes a difference. I am RMAing the ram, hoping they will send me some new sticks. I think I'll sell those on ebay or amazon and buy some new RAM.

What looks best?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.frys.com/product/6340151?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN...
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January 13, 2011 6:40:29 AM

Oh and sometimes now my computer crashes and I get the bsod when booting to windows. Sometimes though.
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January 13, 2011 7:04:33 AM

So I tried every stick of ram in every dimm slot, well none of them worked in the 2nd slot, they all worked in the 4th slot and 1 of them worked in the 6th slot. So I tried getting the 4th and 6th slot to work but they won't work at the same time or something. 2nd slot is completely dead I think so I guess it's my board that's F'd, not the RAM. Sucks because I never registered my board so I don't have a warrenty anymore. woops. :C
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January 13, 2011 11:26:25 AM

Where did you buy the board? if online @ newegg, etc, you should be able to logon and get a copy of the original invoice, then go register the MB, then apply for warranty service.
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January 13, 2011 5:12:51 PM

132-BL-E758-A1

I got it from newegg and have the invoice but it says on their site and on the box "Products purchased ON or AFTER November 1, 2006 MUST be registered within 30 days of the ORIGINAL DATE OF PURCHASE to receive EVGA's Free Extended Warranty. All products not registered within 30 days will ONLY receive a 1 year limited warranty. " I ordered mine on 3/9/09
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January 13, 2011 5:19:45 PM

You can still try...The worst that could happen is you get refused warranty service. They may take pity on you and RMA it...What have you got to lose here?
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January 13, 2011 5:23:53 PM

That's what I was hoping for, I just sent a ticket in.
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a c 347 } Memory
January 13, 2011 7:13:48 PM

EVGA is generally pretty cool. You can tell them you mailed it out or their records are messed-up. They might not even ask or care.

Good Luck!
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January 27, 2011 6:42:31 AM

EVGA accepted the RMA, I just got the replacement today, I put it together, turned it on. Success! 6GB showing! Soon after I had to restart due to a program update, so it restarts and I see that it's only showing 4GB again, my heart sank and rage overcame me. I went into bios, fixed stuff, 4 GB again, then 2GB, 4GB, so on.. Finally I turn it to xms settings and I get 6GB. That works for about 5 hours maybe, I'm in the middle of playing bad company 2, I go and get some water and come back to my computer. I'm sitting here trying to get the fingernail out from being stuck in between my front teeth and I notice out of the corner of my eye my screen turn black... a restart... So I see it shows 4GB again, I restart go to bios, manually set everything up, save and restart.. it shows 2GB, I get mad, punch my computer and it shows 4GB, I punch it again and it's at 2GB, mess with bios some, go back to xms and it's showing 4GB again so I just let it be and that's where I am at now.

So I guess it's not a mobo issue but I got a new or refurbed one out of it. So is this a RAM thing? or something else. This issue is haunting me! I'm almost tempted to part this out and build a new pc. GRRRR. Thanks for all your help you've given me, much appreciated! :) 
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a c 347 } Memory
January 27, 2011 12:54:42 PM

It seems clear enough to me, it's a RAM thing :( 

I own 10 sets of TR3X6G1600C8D and have recommend the same to 100's of people with not blow backs to me. If you're into WEI it's 7.9 {pegs the scale}. They overclock to 1800 MHz very easily and are solid as a rock.

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 TR3X6G1600C8D CAS 8-8-8-24-2N @1.65v http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Comparison Module #1: Mushkin Redline 996805 6-8-6-24 1600MHz
Comparison Module #2: G.Skill Pi Series 7-8-7-24 1600MHz
Comparison Module #3: Mushkin 998687 8-9-8-24 1866MHz
Comparison Module #4: Corsair Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D 8-8-8-24 1600MHz
Comparison Module #5: Kingston HyperX T1 9-9-9-27 1600MHz
Comparison Module #6: Mushkin Blackline 998677B 7-7-7-20 1333MHz
Comparison Module #7: Patriot Viper II Sector 7 9-9-9-27 1800MHz


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