Chane of GPU what to buy??

[rahul247rocks]

This year 2010 is proving costly for my PC. My specs intel q6600 processor 4 gb cossair ram @ 1066Mhz and 9800gtx+ graphics card with 600W coolermaster PSU. But recentl i purchased Just cause 2 and saw that i am really getting low frames even though the game is playable. So i guess my 9800gtx+ is showing its age now. More games are about to come like crysis 2 , splinter cell conviction etc. So my question is that i wanna stick to Nvidia......which card should i buy. My budget is 450 to 500 dollars. Also should i just wait for the upcomming 300 series of nvidia and get hold of their top one like GTX 395 maybe later this year. also I wanna ask what PSU to buy so that i can be safe for the next 2 years. I hope that my ram, MB, and processor are still powerful to run any game in the next two years. Guys please help me out looks like i m deeply confused what to do!!!!//

 

[jyjjy]

Best for the money of the high end is getting an HD5850 and OCing it.

 

[randomkid]

FYI, have you over-clocked your q6600?

THis is good question.
If at 2.4Ghz stock, it may also be contributing to the low fps.

@rahul247rocks,
What is your monitor resolution?

 

[wa1]

Yup, OC'ing your CPU would help a lot, try it...
9800GTX+ is still a decent card i think.
Agree with randomkid, what is your monitor resolution?

 

[builderbobftw]

You should buy a 5870 and a Aftermarket cooler at that budget.

Or possibly a 5850 and a budget WC setup.

 

[randomkid]

You should buy a 5870 and a Aftermarket cooler at that budget.

Or possibly a 5850 and a budget WC setup.

It is not good to recommend a Video Card without knowing the monitor resolution the OP wants it for. Let us wait for it then we can tell him which video card will be "just right" for it.

 

[builderbobftw]

I mean, all we need is a budget, not a Resolution....

 

[randomkid]

Sure, you can answer straight away what he can buy with $450-$500. But wouldn't it be better if rather than spend it for something he may or may not need, he spend it on what he surely need + something else that will boost his PC's performance. He also asked for PSU so if that is included in the the budget then its totally different ball game... so let us wait awhile for his answer so that we consider this question from as many angles as possible...

 

[rahul247rocks]

All you guys i wanna tell that i have not overclocked my CPu and my resolution is 1680*1050!! I really would like to know that i dont know much about overclocking so my sole faith lies in the next gen GPU's especially the 400 series from Nvidia. Plz help

 

[rahul247rocks]

Guys my PSU budget is not included in the list the budget is only for the GPU

 

[builderbobftw]

I disagree about there being any CPU bottleneck.

 

[jyjjy]

It depends on the game. At the stock 2.4 ghz in games that only use 2 cores there probably is a bit of a bottleneck.

 

[builderbobftw]

Nah, Not with a 9800Gt.

Prehaps a slight bottlenck with a 5970 Quadfire.

 

[builderbobftw]

And the reson game sonly use 2 cores is cuase they don't need anymore, not buecuase they can't use 2+ cores.

 

[jyjjy]

That's just not true...

 

[builderbobftw]

Most games don't run into CPU bottlecks with any decent quad core, dual core, or triple core, unless the GPU is insanly fast, wich th 9800GT is not.

No CPU bottleneck.

 

[jyjjy]

It's a 9800GTX+ and that's still not true just because you repeat it. In games that aren't programmed to be fully multithreaded the processor is equivalent to a dualcore 2.4ghz core2duo which certainly will cause a bottleneck in some of the more CPU intensive games.

 

[builderbobftw]

LOL at a C2Q bottlenecking a 9800GT.

Prove it.

Show me one non console prot game where tha5t would happen.

(GTA IV exculeded!, and Flight Simulator doesn't count)

 

[jyjjy]

I'm stating common knowledge and not in the mood to scrounge around for numbers for you. 2.4ghz is not that high and quadcore doesn't matter in games that cant use it.
Also why do you keep bringing up the 9800GT?

 

[builderbobftw]

whatever, 9800GTX+.

Point applies.

No bottleneck.

 

[jyjjy]

Once again, just repeating it will not make it true. If it was dual core 2.4ghz would you be saying the same? Do you just not acknowledge that a lot of games aren't programmed to be fully multithreaded? What exactly don't you get?

 

[randomkid]

All you guys i wanna tell that i have not overclocked my CPu and my resolution is 1680*1050!! I really would like to know that i dont know much about overclocking so my sole faith lies in the next gen GPU's especially the 400 series from Nvidia. Plz help

At 1680x1050, there shouldn't be any bottleneck for the CPU.

FOr CPU, it should be able to play high fps even for crysis and farcry 2.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/53

But 9800gtx might be bottlenecking at some games. For crysis it can only get 12.9 at high setting and 24 at lower setting at your resolution.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-9800gtx-review,1800-7.html

So yeah, get a new VGA but not the nVidia 4XX. The HD5870 will perform equal if not better and will be cooler and consume less energy which will be cheaper in the long run....
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5870,2422-13.html

 

[rahul247rocks]

Listen guys i think that my cpu is fine cause in GTA 4 with everything set to max and textured maxed at what 9800gtx+ can support i get 50 to 60 FPS. So i think Cpu si not an issue as most games never even demand a quad core in the recommended settings. So i stick with my CPU as of now and will surely upgrade to i7 or the latest from intel later this year. Meanwhile my sole concern lies with GPU ............... SECONDLY u guys r thinking i am getting very poor performence but mind you thats not the case at all. because i just wanted to clarify whats my next GPU buy should be. MY PC is brand new almost 6 months(max)) and my CPU gives me superb performence in rendering and processing and even gaming. What is actually scaring me are the TRAILERS OF THE UPCOMMING GAMES!!! SO PLZ DONT SCARE ME WITH MY CPU THING!! AND I DONT WANNA OVERCLOCK IT AS I WILL GET VERY LESS RESELLL VALUE LATER ON!!! A GODD GPU SUGGESTION IS ALL I NEED AND by the way what is bottleneck??

 

[randomkid]

Cool down, kid... don't use Capital letters cause it looks like you are shouting at us. If you read above your post you should see my post saying your CPU is fine. And I already recommended your next GPU should be and even gave you links on it... So go ahead and buy it as soon as you are able to save up the money for it...

 

[builderbobftw]

Cool down, kid... don't use Capital letters cause it looks like you are shouting at us. If you read above your post you should see my post saying your CPU is fine. And I already recommended your next GPU should be and even gave you links on it... So go ahead and buy it as soon as you are able to save up the money for it...

BUT IF I BUY IT NOW THEN RESALE VALUE WILL BE VERY ABD AND WHAT IS A BOTTLECK?

IS IT WHAT KEEPS MY BEAR IN IT'S BOTTLE AND LET'S ME DRINK IT?