Chane of GPU what to buy??

This year 2010 is proving costly for my PC. My specs intel q6600 processor 4 gb cossair ram @ 1066Mhz and 9800gtx+ graphics card with 600W coolermaster PSU. But recentl i purchased Just cause 2 and saw that i am really getting low frames even though the game is playable. So i guess my 9800gtx+ is showing its age now. More games are about to come like crysis 2 , splinter cell conviction etc. So my question is that i wanna stick to Nvidia......which card should i buy. My budget is 450 to 500 dollars. Also should i just wait for the upcomming 300 series of nvidia and get hold of their top one like GTX 395 maybe later this year. also I wanna ask what PSU to buy so that i can be safe for the next 2 years. I hope that my ram, MB, and processor are still powerful to run any game in the next two years. Guys please help me out looks like i m deeply confused what to do!!!!//
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  1. Best for the money of the high end is getting an HD5850 and OCing it.
  2. if you want to go with Nvidia, I would wait a few months for their new cards to be released

    so recommending a PSU without a video card is kind of silly

    FYI, have you over-clocked your q6600?
  3. ct1615 said:


    FYI, have you over-clocked your q6600?

    THis is good question.
    If at 2.4Ghz stock, it may also be contributing to the low fps.

    @rahul247rocks,
    What is your monitor resolution?
  4. Yup, OC'ing your CPU would help a lot, try it...
    9800GTX+ is still a decent card i think.
    Agree with randomkid, what is your monitor resolution?
  5. You should buy a 5870 and a Aftermarket cooler at that budget.

    Or possibly a 5850 and a budget WC setup.
  6. builderbobftw said:
    You should buy a 5870 and a Aftermarket cooler at that budget.

    Or possibly a 5850 and a budget WC setup.

    It is not good to recommend a Video Card without knowing the monitor resolution the OP wants it for. Let us wait for it then we can tell him which video card will be "just right" for it.
  7. I mean, all we need is a budget, not a Resolution....
  8. Sure, you can answer straight away what he can buy with $450-$500. But wouldn't it be better if rather than spend it for something he may or may not need, he spend it on what he surely need + something else that will boost his PC's performance. He also asked for PSU so if that is included in the the budget then its totally different ball game... so let us wait awhile for his answer so that we consider this question from as many angles as possible...
  9. All you guys i wanna tell that i have not overclocked my CPu and my resolution is 1680*1050!! I really would like to know that i dont know much about overclocking so my sole faith lies in the next gen GPU's especially the 400 series from Nvidia. Plz help
  10. Guys my PSU budget is not included in the list the budget is only for the GPU
  11. your CPU is what's slowing down your FPS, I suggest you OC or upgrade that first

    the 9800GTX+ can handle your current resolution. New mid-level Nvidia cards will soon be released if you want to go with them. Otherwise an ATI 5770 will give you a decent jump but the 5850 would be a better option considering you still have a solid card.

    Any 500w - 600w PSU from OCZ, Seasonic, Corsair, Antec will be able to power the cards mentioned.
  12. I disagree about there being any CPU bottleneck.
  13. It depends on the game. At the stock 2.4 ghz in games that only use 2 cores there probably is a bit of a bottleneck.
  14. Nah, Not with a 9800Gt.

    Prehaps a slight bottlenck with a 5970 Quadfire.
  15. And the reson game sonly use 2 cores is cuase they don't need anymore, not buecuase they can't use 2+ cores.
  16. That's just not true...
  17. Most games don't run into CPU bottlecks with any decent quad core, dual core, or triple core, unless the GPU is insanly fast, wich th 9800GT is not.

    No CPU bottleneck.
  18. It's a 9800GTX+ and that's still not true just because you repeat it. In games that aren't programmed to be fully multithreaded the processor is equivalent to a dualcore 2.4ghz core2duo which certainly will cause a bottleneck in some of the more CPU intensive games.
  19. LOL at a C2Q bottlenecking a 9800GT.

    Prove it.

    Show me one non console prot game where tha5t would happen.

    (GTA IV exculeded!, and Flight Simulator doesn't count)
  20. I'm stating common knowledge and not in the mood to scrounge around for numbers for you. 2.4ghz is not that high and quadcore doesn't matter in games that cant use it.
    Also why do you keep bringing up the 9800GT?
  21. whatever, 9800GTX+.

    Point applies.

    No bottleneck.
  22. Once again, just repeating it will not make it true. If it was dual core 2.4ghz would you be saying the same? Do you just not acknowledge that a lot of games aren't programmed to be fully multithreaded? What exactly don't you get?
  23. builderbobftw said:
    I disagree about there being any CPU bottleneck.



    jyjjy is absolutely correct, there are plenty of games that will only utilize 2 cores so you are basically running a dual core @ 2.4ghz

    SC 2 is a new game that works as such and I'm willing to bet Diablo III will be one also
  24. 2.6 ghz quad core vs 3.1 dual core in gaming (same family of chips)

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=106&p2=121&c=1

    you will see in plenty of games the dual core keeps up with the quad and in some its even far ahead. Those optimized for multi-core like Far Cry 2 and Dragon Age show how they better utilize them even at slower speeds.
  25. rahul247rocks said:
    All you guys i wanna tell that i have not overclocked my CPu and my resolution is 1680*1050!! I really would like to know that i dont know much about overclocking so my sole faith lies in the next gen GPU's especially the 400 series from Nvidia. Plz help


    At 1680x1050, there shouldn't be any bottleneck for the CPU.

    FOr CPU, it should be able to play high fps even for crysis and farcry 2.
    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/53

    But 9800gtx might be bottlenecking at some games. For crysis it can only get 12.9 at high setting and 24 at lower setting at your resolution.
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-9800gtx-review,1800-7.html

    So yeah, get a new VGA but not the nVidia 4XX. The HD5870 will perform equal if not better and will be cooler and consume less energy which will be cheaper in the long run....
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5870,2422-13.html
  26. Listen guys i think that my cpu is fine cause in GTA 4 with everything set to max and textured maxed at what 9800gtx+ can support i get 50 to 60 FPS. So i think Cpu si not an issue as most games never even demand a quad core in the recommended settings. So i stick with my CPU as of now and will surely upgrade to i7 or the latest from intel later this year. Meanwhile my sole concern lies with GPU ............... SECONDLY u guys r thinking i am getting very poor performence but mind you thats not the case at all. because i just wanted to clarify whats my next GPU buy should be. MY PC is brand new almost 6 months(max)) and my CPU gives me superb performence in rendering and processing and even gaming. What is actually scaring me are the TRAILERS OF THE UPCOMMING GAMES!!! SO PLZ DONT SCARE ME WITH MY CPU THING!! AND I DONT WANNA OVERCLOCK IT AS I WILL GET VERY LESS RESELLL VALUE LATER ON!!! A GODD GPU SUGGESTION IS ALL I NEED AND by the way what is bottleneck??
  27. Cool down, kid... don't use Capital letters cause it looks like you are shouting at us. If you read above your post you should see my post saying your CPU is fine. And I already recommended your next GPU should be and even gave you links on it... So go ahead and buy it as soon as you are able to save up the money for it...
  28. randomkid said:
    Cool down, kid... don't use Capital letters cause it looks like you are shouting at us. If you read above your post you should see my post saying your CPU is fine. And I already recommended your next GPU should be and even gave you links on it... So go ahead and buy it as soon as you are able to save up the money for it...


    BUT IF I BUY IT NOW THEN RESALE VALUE WILL BE VERY ABD AND WHAT IS A BOTTLECK?

    IS IT WHAT KEEPS MY BEAR IN IT'S BOTTLE AND LET'S ME DRINK IT?
  29. Overclocking a CPU will do nothing to it's resale value, how would they even know?
    As long as your motherboard allows it you can and should OC your CPU. That processor OCs easily and well.
  30. guys i finally think that gtx 495 is comming nin september with 4 gigs of VRAM. so i am sticking to this card now and will change later. As of now just tell me that will 600W PSU be enough( 70% efficiency)................... plz reply me and thnx god my CPU is fine.
  31. The GTX 495 will use more power by itself that ur PSU can provide, nevermind the rest of the system.
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