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How will AMD market the HD 5950?

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a b K Overclocking
March 28, 2010 10:17:46 PM

How will they? Considering that the HD 5970 is pretty much two HD 5870 GPUs on one PCB @ HD 5850 speeds to prevent it going from the ATX limit, what will be the speeds of the HD 5950? If they're two HD 5850s on one PCB @ HD 5850 speeds, then essentially there would be no difference between the two @ stock. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the HD 5950 have more overclocking headroom in terms of temperature, seeing as that two HD 5870s take up more power and produce more heat than two HD 5850s?

Of course the HD 5870 GPU-wise would have far more GPU overclocking headroom, considering they're underclocked by 125MHz on the core and 200MHz on the memory already. On techPowerUP! they could get their HD 5970 to 890/1193.75, which is 40MHz higher than the stock HD 5870s on the core clock, although 6.25MHz less than the stock HD 5870s on the memory clock.

On many sites I've seen the HD 5850 been overclocked to ~825-875MHz on the core clock without any voltage adjustements, and memory clocks at around 1125-1175MHz.
The performance would seem to be very close to the stock HD 5870, and I'm also assuming that the HD 5850s would be relatively stable with these clocks, even if they were put together as an HD 5950.

What would the price be as well? The HD 5970 launched at $600 MSRP, the price of two HD 5850s at the time. Now, considering that the HD 5950 has the same performance as two HD 5850s, with a bit less o/c headroom than the HD 5970, how much less would it be solved? $500 MSRP?

Are they even going to release the HD 5950? With the HD 4850X2, only Sapphire made any, I'm just wondering if it'll be a similar situation, and they end up being pretty rare.

Just a few questions I've been thinking about.

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a c 86 U Graphics card
March 28, 2010 10:21:57 PM

and just what makes you think there is going to be such a card in the first place?? I sure haven't seen anything about it.... :/ 
March 28, 2010 10:35:07 PM

I didnt know they were releasing such a card?
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a b K Overclocking
March 28, 2010 10:40:05 PM

They released the HD 4850X2, and I'm pretty sure that they'll eventually get to releasing the HD 5950. According to techPowerUp!, and other several sites, it'll be underclocked by a bit as well, which really makes no sense if it already is within specified ATX limits.

http://www.techpowerup.com/109441/AMD_Preparing_Radeon_...
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=21080
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-10663-view-Radeon-HD-...
a b U Graphics card
March 28, 2010 11:53:30 PM

Lmeow said:
How will they? Considering that the HD 5970 is pretty much two HD 5870 GPUs on one PCB @ HD 5850 speeds to prevent it going from the ATX limit, what will be the speeds of the HD 5950? If they're two HD 5850s on one PCB @ HD 5850 speeds, then essentially there would be no difference between the two @ stock. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the HD 5950 have more overclocking headroom in terms of temperature, seeing as that two HD 5870s take up more power and produce more heat than two HD 5850s?


Hmm you started off with the correct idea then lost it at the end.

A 5870 has 1600 shaders compared to 1440 of a 5850. That means that at the same clock speed, the 5870 will always be faster.


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On many sites I've seen the HD 5850 been overclocked to ~825-875MHz on the core clock without any voltage adjustements, and memory clocks at around 1125-1175MHz.
The performance would seem to be very close to the stock HD 5870, and I'm also assuming that the HD 5850s would be relatively stable with these clocks, even if they were put together as an HD 5950.


Sure it's getting closer but 5870's also overclock reasonably well. Many hit 1ghz on air.

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What would the price be as well? The HD 5970 launched at $600 MSRP, the price of two HD 5850s at the time. Now, considering that the HD 5950 has the same performance as two HD 5850s, with a bit less o/c headroom than the HD 5970, how much less would it be solved? $500 MSRP?


Somewhere in-between I guess. The 5950 could beat the gtx480 quite comfortably at the same price I'm sure. If anybody makes one it will be Sapphire again, but honestly I think we'd have seen one before now if they were going to do it.

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a b K Overclocking
March 28, 2010 11:58:40 PM

They won't release one of these until nVidia can firmly and positively claim they have the fastest desktop gaming GPU on the market. THEN ATI may decide to do something like this to trump nVidia. But from the initial results I have seen from nVidias new lineup I wouldn't hold my breath. I wouldn't expect to see anything new from ATI, or any price changes either for that matter, for a good while yet.
March 29, 2010 12:07:00 AM

5950 would probably be on par with the GTX 480. Might be a good move for ATI.
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a b K Overclocking
March 29, 2010 12:16:31 AM

Lmeow said:
They released the HD 4850X2, and I'm pretty sure that they'll eventually get to releasing the HD 5950. According to techPowerUp!, and other several sites, it'll be underclocked by a bit as well, which really makes no sense if it already is within specified ATX limits.

http://www.techpowerup.com/109441/AMD_Preparing_Radeon_...
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=21080
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-10663-view-Radeon-HD-...


All those articles came out , around the same time back in 11/2009. That was probably a press release to counter some
Nvidia press release. There were pictures of a gts 250x2 around then as well.
a b U Graphics card
March 29, 2010 12:23:06 AM

Since a 5970 is basically two 5870s performing equal to two 5850s, the next logical GPU would be the 5990 - or two 5870s performing equal to two 5870s.

I believe that Asus triple-slot 5970 with two PCIe 8 pins and clocked at native 5870 speeds will become the 5890.
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a b K Overclocking
March 29, 2010 12:24:10 AM

Wow ATi has so many cards now, confusing, 5970,5870,5850,5830,5770,5750....now a 5950 or a 5990

Blue I think you mean 5990 not 5890. Oh yess, that card with 4GB will break some world record lmao
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