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April 23, 2010 6:39:48 AM

Need advice on Budget Developer AMD Build

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:
This week. As soon as possible.

BUDGET RANGE:
Less than $1000 Before Rebates.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT:
Software Development. I will start with Java. I am also interested in Stream Processing, and OpenCL. I will probably explore Python, and C++.
I will probably experiment with some video. Surfing the Internet, and Gaming are less important.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED:
I have a keyboard, mouse, and speakers. I have one, maybe two ?VGA CRTs.
I will try to start with Ubuntu.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS:
I have purchased from Newegg, and Amazon.

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: USA

PARTS PREFERENCES:
I want to use AMD, and ATI.

OVERCLOCKING:
At first, I will not try OVERCLOCKING.
Eventually, I will probably experiment with very conservative OVERCLOCKING.

CROSSFIRE:
At first, I will probably not use CROSSFIRE.
When I can afford it, I will probably use CROSSFIRE.

MONITOR RESOLUTION:
I will start with one, or two ?VGA CRTs.
When I can afford it, I will upgrade to two or more LCD monitors.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:
I am interested in developing software for Multi-Core Processors, and Stream Processors.
The appearance of the case is less important.


This is a first time build.
I need help with selecting the parts.
Here is a list of the parts that I selected.

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I am thinking about buying two of the RAM, for a total of 8GB.

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I don't know if I really need to buy a Heatsink and fan.
I wonder if the processor's heatsink and fan would cool enough.

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I think that the drive will need a cable.

Rosewill 20" Serial ATA II cable with metal latch, Model RCW-204, Red
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE 100283-2L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Writer LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I don't know if I will need Thermal Compound.

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Thank you.

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April 23, 2010 7:46:23 AM

Basically your build is already good enough. I just wanna add some words to it :

1. No need to buy an extra SATA cables, usually you get more than enough cables bundled with the mobo. I got 4 of them along with my P5E X38.
2. HD5770 is a medium classed GPU for gaming, which also a good choice. If you don't play games too often, you can still consider to reduce it.
3. Having extra thermal paste has always it's uses, beside it is not expensive.
4. No extra proc fan is needed if you are not OCing the system.
5. If you don't need a good casing so badly, then get Coolermaster Elite 330, it is a lot cheaper.
6. I agree with the 8GB RAM. I had difficulties generating codes automatically from Matlab to C with only 4GB, I have to close every java based software/processes for that. 8GB will have a great impact, especially if you generate/compile considerable large coding.
7. Having a little bit more power rating like 750W will be more recommended for X-Fire.
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April 23, 2010 4:42:04 PM

Looks good to me. You may want to go with more RAM though. Sure 4GB is generally enough, but some more demanding tasks will of course appreciate it at guanyu points out, and if you have alot of apps open at once you will appreciate the extra RAM.
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August 1, 2010 5:23:02 AM

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August 1, 2010 5:34:04 AM

guanyu210379 said:
Basically your build is already good enough. I just wanna add some words to it :

1. No need to buy an extra SATA cables, usually you get more than enough cables bundled with the mobo. I got 4 of them along with my P5E X38.
2. HD5770 is a medium classed GPU for gaming, which also a good choice. If you don't play games too often, you can still consider to reduce it.
3. Having extra thermal paste has always it's uses, beside it is not expensive.
4. No extra proc fan is needed if you are not OCing the system.
5. If you don't need a good casing so badly, then get Coolermaster Elite 330, it is a lot cheaper.
6. I agree with the 8GB RAM. I had difficulties generating codes automatically from Matlab to C with only 4GB, I have to close every java based software/processes for that. 8GB will have a great impact, especially if you generate/compile considerable large coding.
7. Having a little bit more power rating like 750W will be more recommended for X-Fire.


Most of the time, I will be using the machine for software development.
I want to use the 800 Stream Processors for computations.
I plan to start by learning Java, and then maybe OpenCL, or C++.
I bought a different processor. I bought an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8Ghz Six-Core Processor, instead of an AMD Quad-core processor. I don't plan to OverClock anything.
I was thinking that if I bought a less expensive case, I would have more money to spend on the hardware inside of the case. Thank you for recommending the Coolermaster Elite 300. I was able to find a NZXT M59 case for less.
I bought 8GB RAM. I was not sure how much RAM would be used by each open application.
I also want to use something like GNU Octave, Scilab, or R to learn Math.
I want to develop some financial applications.
I bought a Thermaltake 750W.
Thank you for your advice. I apologize for not responding sooner.
I have been too overwhelmed with other things. I have not been able to build the computer.
I hope that I will be able to start the build in the next few days.
I will find out if I forgot anything.
Thank you.
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August 1, 2010 5:36:10 AM

megamanx00 said:
Looks good to me. You may want to go with more RAM though. Sure 4GB is generally enough, but some more demanding tasks will of course appreciate it at guanyu points out, and if you have alot of apps open at once you will appreciate the extra RAM.


Thank you for your advice.
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August 1, 2010 5:42:44 AM

i would grab G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 when it comes back into stock so if you need more memory down the line you can just add more

if you really need the speed there is G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600, but it would set you back an extra $100, personally i think the DDR3-1333 will suffice when it is back in stock

and as a developer for java and c++, i have filled 8GB of ram before, especially since i do most developing in a VM, though i have had projects use more without a VM running
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