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Anonymous
April 23, 2010 7:05:29 AM

Hello,

I'm looking for a few experts to comment on this proposed build, see if it makes sense. My goal is to get the most-upgradable mobo and case, so I can put in more RAM and a better CPU in the future. I've got some specific questions at the end of this post. This will be my first build, and I'm very excited.

Here is my proposed build:
Intel Core i3-530 2.93GHz LGA 1156 ($120)
GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 ($135)
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower ($70)
Antec Basiq BP500U 500W ATX12V Version 2.01 ($50 after rebate)
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) ($104)
Kingston SSDNow V Series SNV425-S2BD/64GB 2.5" Desktop Bundle ($145)
Western Digital 1TB 7200 rpm hard drive (already have)
MSI R4550-MD1GH Radeon HD 4550 1GB 64-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 (already have)
Windows 7 Home Premium OEM ($100)
ihone Blu-ray internal player ($60)

Prices from Newegg
Total is $800 currently.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this week
BUDGET RANGE: $500-800 after rebates
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: computational power for statistics (unsure what this will entail, I currently use SAS and STATA, both which work fine on my Dual-core Pentium 1.6GHz), but I'm about to start a PhD in statistics, HD video editing/playback, photoshop, internet surfing, no gaming.
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: I currently have a Westinghouse 26 inch 1900x1200 resolution monitor with HDMI/VGA outputs, 1 TB Western Digital HD (the eco-green version), internal DVD writer (SATA connection), a keyboard, mouse, a pair of cheap speakers.

Also recently purchased a video card, which I don't know if I'll need/use: MSI R4550-MD1GH Radeon HD 4550 1GB 64-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16


PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg, but I also live 20 min away from the Fry's in Seattle.
OVERCLOCKING: Maybe (never tried it before)
CROSSFIRE: Maybe
MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: I would like a quiet PC

Here are my questions:
1. Does this setup make sense? Do I have the right kind of RAM, etc.
2. Will I see enough speed gains from using a boot SSD to justify the hassle of setting this up?
3. This cheap $50 video card I bought, should I incorporate it into my new machine, or just return it? I know the i3 has integrated graphics. As for my video editing, it will be in 720p, possibly AVCHD, likely use Adobe Premiere. From what I've read, I may not need a dedicated video card.
4. Do I have enough wattage?
5. For my Mobo, I definitely want a max of 16GB, maybe even more? The reason I hate my current computer is that it maxes at 2GB, and when I installed the aforementioned $50 video card, my RJ-45 ethernet jack stops working. The system cost me $300 at Fry's 3 years ago, so what can I say ...
6. How can I save money? Ideally, I'd like to spend $600-700.
7. Should I overclock?

Thanks in advance for all your help. I'm hoping the challenge of a computer built for statistics and video editing, on a budget, makes it interesting.

April 23, 2010 8:01:23 AM

Before answering those question :
" My goal is to get the most-upgradable mobo and case, so I can put in more RAM and a better CPU in the future. "
Then don't go Intel. With 1156, you can not even upgrade to the currently available i7 with 1366 and your current mobo support only 2 channels not 3.

1. Does this setup make sense? Do I have the right kind of RAM, etc.
Yup, you do.

2. Will I see enough speed gains from using a boot SSD to justify the hassle of setting this up?
You will be addicted to SSD. This, I guarantee

3. This cheap $50 video card I bought, should I incorporate it into my new machine, or just return it? I know the i3 has integrated graphics. As for my video editing, it will be in 720p, possibly AVCHD, likely use Adobe Premiere. From what I've read, I may not need a dedicated video card.
??? What do you mean by i3 has integrated GPU???...
You need a dedicated GPU! for your configuration.
BTW : you might want to switch to HD5xxx series, the HD4xxx will belong to museum very soon.

4. Do I have enough wattage?
Yes for this configuration.

5. For my Mobo, I definitely want a max of 16GB, maybe even more? The reason I hate my current computer is that it maxes at 2GB, and when I installed the aforementioned $50 video card, my RJ-45 ethernet jack stops working. The system cost me $300 at Fry's 3 years ago, so what can I say ...
??? maxes at 2GB...how old is that? even 512MB was considered large 10 years ago. why are you comparing that with the new ones?? People use nowadays already at least 4GB.

6. How can I save money? Ideally, I'd like to spend $600-700.
Hmmmm...I live this for someone else to answer.


7. Should I overclock?
Also hard to tell...do you want it?
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Anonymous
April 23, 2010 3:42:14 PM

Thanks guanyu.

In that case, can you recommend a processor + mobo for my needs? Again, my emphasis is future upgradeability, so things like maximum RAM, USB 3.0, SATA 3.0 are important to me.
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April 23, 2010 3:47:36 PM

You certainly don't want a dual-core CPU for your intended use. At your budget a quad core AMD system would be the best option. I'll put one together when I get a free minute here at work.
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April 23, 2010 4:01:17 PM

Here you go:

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $293.99 (CPU + motherboard combo)

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $114.98 (Case + PSU combo)

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $119.99

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $54.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99

Total - $683.94


I picked an AMD AM3 build because it is the most upgradeable socket available right now. I also used a motherboard with the latest 890GX chipset for the best possible upgrade path. The motherboard has a decent on-board GPU, so you don't need your 4550.

A decent SSD doesn't fit in your budget. I would wait for the quality drives to drop in price. The cheap drives don't perform very well and lose performance as they fill up and are used.

I didn't add a blu-ray drive, but if you want one, pick whichever one you want.
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Anonymous
April 23, 2010 7:03:54 PM

Hey Shortstuff (and others),

I really want to try SSD in this round. I'm willing to take the processor down a notch (to AMD Athlon II 630 Quad Core) and save $60 to put towards SSD. Is this advisable? I am also willing to reuse my WD 1TB Green Caviar 7200 rpm -- will the Spinpoint F3 make that much of a difference? With the aforementioned savings, my total is about $570. I'll hold off on a Blu-ray drive for now. I'm willing to spend up to $200 on SSD. Is it still not a good idea? Here are the programs I'll be running from it:

Windows 7 (20 GB)
Adobe Lightroom (requires 1 GB space)
Office 2007 (2 GB)
STATA (250 MB)
Adobe Premiere Elements (4.5GB space)

Otherwise, the AMD quad route seems like a good idea. Thanks for all your help so far.
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April 23, 2010 7:38:59 PM

guanyu210379 said:

??? What do you mean by i3 has integrated GPU???...
You need a dedicated GPU! for your configuration.
BTW : you might want to switch to HD5xxx series, the HD4xxx will belong to museum very soon.


If you buy an H55 board to go with the i3 (the P55 board in the original post doesn't qualify), you can use the integrated graphics. For the OP's intended purposes (no gaming), the integrated graphics would be fine.

Shortstuff's build is very good. Depending on the upgrade timeframe though, you could get a relatively inexpensive processor now, and upgrade to a new hex-core later this year, if you are thinking of upgrading that soon. If you're thinking of upgrading in a year or two (or more), stick with the suggested processor.
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Anonymous
April 23, 2010 8:32:45 PM

I'll aim for the Intel SSD. But can I purchase the OEM, or do I need the full package for $20 more?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm assuming this is a 2.5inch drive that I'll install in a 3.5 inch bay, so I thought I'd need the drive bay adapter? Or does the Antec case I'll be using have adapters already?

On second thought, $169 vs $229 is becoming a bigger difference, especially if I decide to stick with the $159 AMD Phenom II 955. Maybe I should just get the OCZ drive ...

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