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April 23, 2010 1:52:06 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This weekend / early next week, but really I'm in no rush.
BUDGET: ~$600 (not including items already owned)
SYSTEM USAGE: Gaming, trivial PC tasks (web surfing, school work, word documents, etc)
PARTS PREFERENCES: None
OVERCLOCKING: Maybe (if a significant difference, 'yes!')
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Probably in the future (my next purchase after this will probably be a new video card in the future... but mine is still working fine)

NOTES:
I'm planning on doing some upgrades to my current PC, and I'm hoping to get some feedback. I am certainly on a budget and am not looking to run Crysis 5 on Mega-Awesome graphics settings. However, I would like a powerful PC for a decent price - one that will keep me going for a while, but one that will also allow for upgrades as time / money allow.

I'd especially like to know whether or not I am spending too much for too little performance gains, or if there is something better in any of these categories that I missed. Also it'd be helpful to know if I messed up and any one or more of these parts do not actually fit together.

This is what I have put together so far...

(All from Newegg because that is what I am most used to..)

Parts NOT Required
I already own these and am planning to build around them. Not necessarily planning to upgrade at the moment unless needed.

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

Hard drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM

Case: COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower

Graphics Card: Radeon HD 4850 1GB


Current "Wish List":
Mobo:GIGABYTE GA-790FXTA-UD5 AM3 AMD
(Seems really expensive... is it worth it?)

Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz
(Is the 965 worth $20 more?)

PSU:CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W
(Would I need an 850W power supply if I plan to do crossfire/sli in the future?)

RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM


Thank you so much for any advice you can give me!

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April 23, 2010 1:57:00 PM

That could be too CPU/Mobo heavy and GPU lite depending on what resolution u game on hehe U dun sound like the 'buy 1st $$ think later' enthusiast so i agree - a 790FX is too much mobo for ya and stick to single GPU solutions ^^
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April 23, 2010 4:30:26 PM

batuchka said:
That could be too CPU/Mobo heavy and GPU lite depending on what resolution u game on hehe U dun sound like the 'buy 1st $$ think later' enthusiast so i agree - a 790FX is too much mobo for ya and stick to single GPU solutions ^^

Thanks for your reply!

So I would be bottlenecked by my GPU in this case? Do you have a better mobo/cpu combo that would work well with what I'm trying to do? I was thinking AM3 socket because I was assuming I would be able to easily put a new CPU in there a few years down the road if needed. However, I don't feel it is necessary to buy a top of the line mobo because I probably don't need everything it offers. I wont sacrifice build quality, however.

The next thing I will be upgrading, after this CPU/PSU/Mobo/RAM shopping spree, is my GPU. However that is realistically a year or two down the road.

If it matters, I primarily prefer to game at 1920 x 1080, which thus far my GPU has managed to stay on top of.
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April 24, 2010 9:10:25 AM

Since April 26th is like 2 days away and most importantly since u game on 1920 x 1080

870 chipset + 955BE and go one bad ass single GPU set up for best $$/frames
2 x 2 DDR3 1333 CL7 or 1600 CL9
Antec EA650
HD 5850
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April 24, 2010 10:17:39 AM

batuchka said:
Since April 26th is like 2 days away and most importantly since u game on 1920 x 1080

870 chipset + 955BE and go one bad ass single GPU set up for best $$/frames
2 x 2 DDR3 1333 CL7 or 1600 CL9
Antec EA650
HD 5850


His budget is $600

1st thing I'd suggest is get a motherboard with 2 PCIE 2.0 x16 slots.

You can pick up a 2nd 4850 for 100 bucks and that performs on par/better than a 5770.


get a Athlonx3 CPU: 70.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sapphire 4850: 79.99 after 15 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G SKILL 4 GB RAM: 104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ 700W PSU: 59.99 after MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gigabyte Motherboard 2 PCI-E slots, USB 3.0 and Sata III: 124.99 after MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total price 439.96 before shipping and after MIR.

That gives you 170 dollars of wiggle room, and this is with Xfire 4850s (since you already have one)
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April 24, 2010 10:26:41 AM

Hmm TS needs Chip+Mobo+RAM+PSU and am suggesting the HD 5850 rather than nabbing another outdated HD 4850 that may not scale in games and also result in not one but 2 outdated GPUs down the road @@ Could be $700+ country with 955BE but better move IMO - else if budget no compromise tone down on the chip :lol: 
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April 24, 2010 10:59:01 AM

batuchka said:
Hmm TS needs Chip+Mobo+RAM+PSU and am suggesting the HD 5850 rather than nabbing another outdated HD 4850 that may not scale in games and also result in not one but 2 outdated GPUs down the road @@ Could be $700+ country with 955BE but better move IMO - else if budget no compromise tone down on the chip :lol: 


"Exceptional 1920x1200 performance, 2560x1600 in most games with lowered detail

Two Radeon HD 4850s in CrossFire continue to offer a combination of high performance and reasonably low cost, making them a good choice for a gaming enthusiast on a budget. Two hundred dollars will get you a couple 512MB cards, while $230 should score a duo of 1GB models. You'll need a CrossFire-compatible motherboard
of course, but that's not a problem for most folks with Intel- or AMD-based platforms."


Also a quote from the 5830:
"The new Radeon HD 5830 delivers Radeon HD 4890-class performance for $240, but includes all of the Radeon HD 5000-series value-adds to go with it.

From a pure value standpoint, a pair of CrossFired Radeon HD 4850's are much faster, and so is a single Radeon HD 5850."

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

Also at the end of the article it ranks 4850s above the 5850 in performance. Now obviously he wouldnt have DX11 or Eyefinity. He hasnt eluded that he needs either of those.

So from where I sit, adding a 4850 is the right move.

The key for an upgrade imo is to use what he already has. He can spend only 79 dollars and add a 2nd 4850 and achieve a pretty significant upgrade.

Also he is provided with everything he needs and comes 170 dollars under his budget. Very rarely do people come here with corporate budgets that they have to spend or the excess is lost.

I simply provided him with a strong upgrade that puts money back into his own pocket.

He can do with it what he wishes.
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April 24, 2010 11:00:29 AM

Everyone always talks about "Oh get XXXX and then in the future you can add another for a longer lifespan!"

Well for this guy, its the future.

I'm just saying, everyone always eludes to Xfire later on to lengthen the life of their current GPU. This guy has a chance to have significant improvement for only 79 dollars.
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April 24, 2010 11:13:05 AM

I agree get another 4850
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May 1, 2010 12:11:13 AM

Best answer selected by parkcarshere.
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