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April 26, 2010 5:08:07 PM

:pt1cable:  I am very new at this, so I chose the possibly more expensive avenue to build my gaming pc for Starcraft 2. I want to be able to obtain the highest settings possible on the game when it comes out in June.
I was sent to the site below by another dude and it seems like a good start. I would appreciate it if some of you would take a moment and select the best components out of the custom build page and let me know what I should get to complete my mission. I will be viewing this on my 54" Sony Bravia XBR so I need to know what I need to connect the two.
I also wanted to throw in a Blue Ray burner since this is going to be an addition to my home entertainment system.
((I may have added unnecessary components so please help me get this more towards $1000.00 if you can.)) Is this ecollegepc site trustworthy?


http://www.ecollegepc.com/

Then AMD Based (cheaper) gaming series on the left, then the $789. Cooler Master HAF build in the middle. Customize.


I pick these components not sure if they are compatible, but hoping they were since they were on the drop down lists:




CPU:AMD Phenom II x 4 965 3.4Ghz 6MB Cache FSB 4000MHz HT.......add $35.

Heatsink/Fan: Cooler Master Hyper N520 RR-920-N520-GP CPU Fan/Heatsink.....add $47. (Not sure which one)

MB: GIGABYTE GA-MA790XTA-UD4 (AMD 790X, 2xPCI-Ex,8-CH Audio,LAN,8xSATA2,4xDDR3, 1394).....add $12. (Not sure which one)

HD: 1 TB 7200RPM 32MB Cache serial ATA300 (Seagate).....add $39. (not sure which one)

CD/DVD/CDRW1: 22X LG SATA Lightscribe Dual Layer DVD- RW DVD-RAM w/Nero.....add $4.

10X LG WH10LS30K Blu-ray Disc Burner SATA Model Lightscribe w/Nero.....add $179.

Video Card: 1GB ATI Radeon HD5770 GDDR5 PCI-E DVI/HDMI (Major Brand)......add $52.

OS: MS windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit.....add $115.

Case: CoolerMaster Black HAF 922 (5 5.25, 5 3.5 bays) 3 Fans, Front Audio/USB/e-Sata

Power supply: 600 watt OCZ Stealth X Stream OCZ600SXS.....add $67 (Not sure which one)

Card Reader: Internal All in 1 card reader.....add $15

warranty: Two year hassle free pickup and return......add $39.

Total: $1393.00

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a b 4 Gaming
April 26, 2010 5:23:01 PM

We don't do prebuilts here. And you're getting ripped off. $1,400 can buy you a X4 955 and an HD 5970 (aka the best gaming card out there). I'd highly advise you finiding an actually good site to build off of or on doing it yourself...

If you're looking to spend around $1,000, here's the best gaming system you can get:

CPU/HSF: X4 955 and Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus $189
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3 $80 after rebate
RAM/GPU: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 and HD 5870 $495
HDD: Seagate 7200.12 500 GB $55
PSU: Antec Earthwatts 650W $75
Case: HAF 922 $90
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD burner $22

Total: $1,006

BluRay is completely unnecessary right now, especially burners. Wait until it's more main stream to pick one up.

EDIT: I should also mention that this is completely overkill if all you're playing is SC2. You'd do just fine with a $600-700 build...
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April 26, 2010 5:41:33 PM

Thank you VERY much. That is exactly what I wanted/needed to hear! I just wasn't sure what I would need to get the most out of the game.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 26, 2010 5:47:11 PM

To get the "most" out of the game, this would certainly be enough:

CPU: X4 955 $159
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3 $80 after rebate
RAM/GPU: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 and HD 5770 $265
HDD: Seagate 7200.12 500 GB $55
Case/PSU: Antec 300 Illusion and Earthwatts 430W $110
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD burner $22

Total: $691

Just keep in mind that this is all based on what the beta does now, and that could easily change by the time it's actually released.
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April 26, 2010 5:52:44 PM

I better wait until I pick up the game just in case it does change.

Will your recommendation still work with the CoolerMaster HAF 922, I really like the look of this case.

And what video card and Operating System?
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a b 4 Gaming
April 26, 2010 7:04:43 PM

Yes. The HAF 922 is a great case, but it's also huge and a bit unnecessary if you're using the HD 5770 or 5850.

The video cards (aka GPU) are listed in the combos with the RAM. The 5770 (or even lower) is just fine for SC2.

As for the OS, you should definitely be using Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. If you're a student, you can get it for fairly cheap at Win741.org. Otherwise, you'll pay $100 for an OEM copy through Newegg.
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April 27, 2010 11:26:28 AM

Antec 300 Illusion - Cons: A bit smaller from front to back and will probably not fit some of the longer double slot vid cards without being creative on hard drive placement.

Will this be a problem with the HD 5770 or "5850?" I have run into this problem before.

Will this card (HD 5770) be sufficient enough to view SC2 (Max settings) on my 54" Bravia XBR (HD LCD) 1080P (resolution??) with the last suggested build?

Thoughts on "HD 5850" because your recommended the HD 5870 before...now I'm getting confused. ((Now trying to keep costs below $700. if possible))


Cons: Wire for the front audio jack is unshielded and can pick up interference from the internal components, causing slight static. This can be remedied by routing the wire away from "noisy" components and/or shielding it yourself.

What exactly do they mean by "shielded?" Putting some kind of barrier between the two?



I noticed the combo deal (GPU) after I sent the last message. Sorry didn't wanna double post. :( 
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a b 4 Gaming
April 27, 2010 12:10:57 PM

The Illusion can fit the 5850 comfortably and the 5870 with some effort.

Take a look at the review done for the SC2 beta on the front page. It doesn't take much graphics power at all. Blizzard is very good about making games that look great but don't require the top-of-the-line products. This way it appeals to everyone.

The 5870 was recommended for the higher end build simply because it's what fits the budget. It's completely overkill for SC2 (not for other games). The 5850 is the card that's between the 5770 and 5870.
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April 27, 2010 12:59:31 PM

One review about the Earthwatts 430W read:

"To maximize efficiency and lifespan you want to run your PSU between 25% and 75% load at all times. With this specific one (430W), this means you should be running AT LEAST a quad core and mid level GPU or you'll risk having certain components deteriorate faster."

Is 430W enough? It must be since you recommended it, but I read this review and it worried me.



Also, I will have to look at it when I get home and put the specs on here later, but my son's new computer will only run SC2 beta on low settings. So that's pretty much the driving force for me to get a faster, better system, to get the ultra settings for my living room gaming area experience.

I asked you earlier about my TV as a monitor. Is this going to get the same high quality (5870) as a smaller resolution Computer monitor, it's kinda a REALLY BIG monitor 1080P, the PC connection is in the back.

Sorry for all the questions, I just want to be safe with our final decision. Thank you so much for helping me!
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a b 4 Gaming
April 27, 2010 1:21:35 PM

I don't buy into many of the reviews. 430W is more than enough for a 5770 and any AM3 CPU.

Using a TV monitor will not affect the visuals, or at least not in any major way. Typically, TVs won't be as sharp as a monitor for text, but other than that there is no difference in using a TV from using a monitor.

I'll say it again. Even if running SC2 at 1080p, you don't need that much graphics power. The 5770 would be just fine for the game. Once you start getting into other games, the 5770 would struggle at 1080p. The 5870 is massive overkill for SC2, but is able to play every game out right now at maximum details at 1080p.
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April 27, 2010 2:00:24 PM

Ok MadAdmiral, I have officially ran out of questions!

You are awesome!!
Would you mind terribly if I contacted you when I get these components together for the build time. I have no clue how to do this. I will read the tutorial on the cover page of the forum and try to assemble it, but as far as the rest, would feel more comfortable if you walked me through it. Please.

Thank you
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a b 4 Gaming
April 27, 2010 2:03:28 PM

I don't mind, but as long as you read through some guides and follow one through the building process, you shouldn't run into any problems in the actual build. Just make sure to read through the documentation that comes with the components, especially the motherboard's manual.
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April 27, 2010 2:10:29 PM

Thank you for the advice, I will read everything twice. or three times or four......
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April 27, 2010 2:12:30 PM

Best answer selected by ZombieReaper33.
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