Fermi so late? does ATI keep the crown this time?

Are you for real? Did you even bother to read the BIG STICKY?

GTX480 / GTX470 Reviews and Discussion

Read this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/284770-33-gtx480-gtx4...

 

Fermi is not available until april 12'th.

Believe me, there are people who have been disappointed by the benchmarks. Imagine waiting 6 months for a card to see it only run with 1.7x the power, lots more heat, 1.2x the price, etc.

However, all things will be good later. ATI price cuts with an ATI refresh with an nVidian lower-series release.

no hallowed dragon i must have missed that..

^
I'm disappointed, too...  

For me, the "new" card should "much" better than the old card.
I expected more than just 10-15% increased performance from ATI's 58xx series...

What i would like to know is what would the differance have been if they had launched together or to put it another way how much differance have ATI driver updates made to the performance

Mactronix

Well, compare numbers to the initial reviews that were out and look for similar games and settings, should answer that question.

Yea but that means me doing it  

Mactronix

Ok so i went and had a look and to be honest it near as makes no differance...um makes no differance  
Some games gain like 3 FPS from 55-58 FPS @1920x1080 Some games loose the same or more.

Mactronix

So driver-wise, HD5K still has maturing.

Pretty much Fermi is just too little too late. I mean- release it at the same time and maybe people would have been happy, but release it 6 months later and only win by a small percentage in performance and lose BIG in power and heat and some in price as well.

Problem is that you will never get a driver that plays great with all games, they optimise the drivers for the main games at the time.
In general i think there is plenty to come and if they latch on to a specific game and optimise for that then i dont think double figure % improvements are out of the question.

Mactronix

ATI has won 2010, they'd won it as soon as midnight Jan 1st hit the world. Nvidia can only hope to get a refresh of Fermi on a smaller fab process by 2011 to begin to gain ground on ATI factoring in ATI's pretty much guaranteed refresh.

ATI's HD5890 (if there is one) will directly compete with the GTX480, most likely beating it. Considering the HD5870 is only ~10% from the GTX480, a 20% increase in performance from the HD5890 is reasonable.

I would love to see a 5890, especially if it can beat the 480 and still use significantly less power and have much lower heat output. :-)

Like I said before, even without a die shrink to 28/32nm, all ATI has to do is bump voltage on the 5870, and raise clocks to 975/1250 (Not sure what stock memory is D .