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Comes in a funky gun case

Since XFX is not on Nvidia’s launch partner list for Fermi, the company has decided to do a special version of the fastest card available, the Radeon HD 5970 X2 and call it Black Edition.

The card should be the fastest to ever launch, comes with 4GB memory with higher clocks that you used to see and it comes with XFX overclocking tool for some even higher clocks.

Since we are talking about big guns, the card comes in a special GPU case and the card will fit in the gun-box like a magazine.

The card will come in limited quantities, will enjoy superb support via live function and the users will get a special carrying bag. Let's not forget the 6 mini Displayports that can drive a 6-screen Eyefinity setup.

Accessories bundle includes:

3x MiniDP (Male) to DP (Female) adapter
1x MiniDP to HDMI Dongle
2x MiniDP to SL-DVI Dongle
1x CrossFire bridge
1x QIG Quick installation guide
1x driver CD installation guide **new driver CD format
1x Black Edition Door Hanger (Quick Access for Technical Support)
1x Exclusive Black Edition case badge
1x Black Edition sticker
1 x XFX OC TOOL

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OvrClkr said:
The XFX 5970 has nothing to do with NV. Not sure where you got that from.

Kinda misleading to call it a 5970 x2. That would be 4 GPU's on one card =)

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/radeon-5970-p90-eyefin...



Actually it does have to do with NV, they did it to break Nv's lack of GPU shipments to them. Also this card is basically a 5870 X2. I much prefer when they put X2 at the end, instead they followed Nv's crumby and confusing higher series naming to trick the consumer.

A none techy consumer wouldn't know it was dual GPU.
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L1qu1d said:
Actually it does have to do with NV, they did it to break Nv's lack of GPU shipments to them. Also this card is basically a 5870 X2. I much prefer when they put X2 at the end, instead they followed Nv's crumby and confusing higher series naming to trick the consumer.

A none techy consumer wouldn't know it was dual GPU.


No, this has nothing to do with NV.. hehe I don't know why many just make up assumptions and then beleive them. XFX was going to release that card regardless of FERMI. The reason XFX jumped ship was because NV did not like the fact that XFX was a major AMD partner. They could not reconcile their differences and now XFX will only supply low end NV products(until the contract is over). So thanks to NV being a-holes about this whole situation, we are now left without the awesome XFX 4 series...

As far as the x2 goes, you can call it a 5870 x2 if you'd like but it is far away from being a 5970 x2 ;) 

So yes the tiltle is misleading since it would be virtually impossible to have a 5970 x2 at this point in time.
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L1qu1d said:
Actually it does have to do with NV, they did it to break Nv's lack of GPU shipments to them. Also this card is basically a 5870 X2. I much prefer when they put X2 at the end, instead they followed Nv's crumby and confusing higher series naming to trick the consumer.

A none techy consumer wouldn't know it was dual GPU.


How is it confusing. Higher numbers = better card. The only way it would be confusing is if people couldn't figure out why they can't do a Tri/QuadFire HD5970 because that'd be 6/8 GPU's; though if someone did that (in other words, spent $2500 on graphics without any research), maybe they deserve it?

shadow187 said:
How is it confusing. Higher numbers = better card. The only way it would be confusing is if people couldn't figure out why they can't do a Tri/QuadFire HD5970 because that'd be 6/8 GPU's; though if someone did that (in other words, spent $2500 on graphics without any research), maybe they deserve it?




nice one ;]]

A point is still a point. It is a scheme with in itself. What 5870s X's 2 isn't a higher number? Come on.

So people trying to get the best they can, but unfortunately they dont know hardware that well? they deserve it? Come on. We were all square one as well.

When Nv did it with the 295 lol u should've seen the uproar, but I guess ATI doing it changes things? lol;)

Come on fair is fair.

Then again I'm very picky. I miss the XT, pro GTS days. Where slight overclocks wouldn't use OC, they would use car names:p 

THat a scheme in itself but for some reason a 9800 XT sounds alot more power than an HD 9800 lol
Graphics card Master

Agreed, both companies have had retarded naming schemes (ATI's XT, XTX, HD, X, nVidia's GT, GTS, GTX, MX, skipping to GTX400), however the only reason people go against nVidia more is because they've rebranded old cards, which IMHO is very cruel and deceiving. Though that's in the past now. The transition to 5870x2->5970 is indeed a change, but it's not too deceptive.
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shadow187 said:
How is it confusing. Higher numbers = better card. The only way it would be confusing is if people couldn't figure out why they can't do a Tri/QuadFire HD5970 because that'd be 6/8 GPU's; though if someone did that (in other words, spent $2500 on graphics without any research), maybe they deserve it?


shadow187 said:
Agreed, both companies have had retarded naming schemes (ATI's XT, XTX, HD, X, nVidia's GT, GTS, GTX, MX, skipping to GTX400), however the only reason people go against nVidia more is because they've rebranded old cards, which IMHO is very cruel and deceiving. Though that's in the past now. The transition to 5870x2->5970 is indeed a change, but it's not too deceptive.


Interesting posts, on the one hand if people don't do their research they get what they deserve but on the other hand rebadging is cruel and deceiving, although if you did some research then you wouldn't be deceived because you would know what had been rebadged...
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Mousemonkey said:
Interesting posts, on the one hand if people don't do their research they get what they deserve but on the other hand rebadging is cruel and deceiving, although if you did some research then you wouldn't be deceived because you would know what had been rebadged...

Yes mm, Nvidia is excused for it rebadging nonsense now. :sarcastic: 

I'm just saying. I dont know squat about cars, indeed I do research but it only goes so far I can't understand it like a mechanic. We see these cards in terms of mechanics. If we dont understand EVERYTHING, we only know the tip of the iceberg.

Remember if Computers dont interest you, it will be alot harder to understand what your buying.

I'm at the same time pissed about the 500$ 5870 Eye6, since I think it wont be able to game well unless pushing 2 of those cards.

I think a 5970 eye6 would've been a much better option, since your already paying for top end, u wont see ppl complaining about price.
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Mousemonkey said:
Interesting posts, on the one hand if people don't do their research they get what they deserve but on the other hand rebadging is cruel and deceiving, although if you did some research then you wouldn't be deceived because you would know what had been rebadged...


If people don't do the research, they get what they get. Renaming is indeed cruel and deceiving, because it's fooling customers to think that the card is better in some way. In any situation, research helps you get what you pay for; is that interesting? :??: 
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shadow187 said:
If people don't do the research, they get what they get. Renaming is indeed cruel and deceiving, because it's fooling customers to think that the card is better in some way. In any situation, research helps you get what you pay for; is that interesting? :??: 

I just felt that the points put across in those posts cancelled each other out, that's all.
Graphics card Master

I see what you're talking about. It ultimately comes down to; when spending any quantity of money ('specially over $100..), don't you think you should know just a bit about what you're buying?
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shadow187 said:
I see what you're talking about. It ultimately comes down to; when spending any quantity of money ('specially over $100..), don't you think you should know just a bit about what you're buying?

Absolutely, which is why I get a bit cheesed off with the fan boy ranting about the rebadging (and usually getting it wrong to boot) rather than educating people as to what was rebadged and how to tell the differences if there are any, the the 3xx series being a prime example of that.
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Mousemonkey said:
Aren't you supposed to have left this forum in a bit of a huff?

Yeah, i got suckered back with actual arrival of fermi. It wasn't a huff, just a general dislike for your obvious bias, and I am no less annoyed by you, but a bit more willing to put up with it to take part in the good discussions on the forum. It is surprising to see a moderator allowed to be such a fanboi, but I am guessing your either high enough up in the forum staff heirarchy that you get to represent the THF staff so poorly without reprecussion, or there is general apathy towards the quality of moderation anyhow. Either way, it shouldn't disuade me from interacting with the people who aren't fanboys, nor keep me from taking jabs at those who are such blatant fanboys.

Are you done with the obfuscation yet? Perhaps man up and admit that you are ignorantly slanted?
Graphics card Master

Jofa, it's alright. Each man is entitled to his own opinion. The only reason I'd ever be against someone like him is if he abused his position as mod (Deleting ATI threads), however IIRC, the thread he removed was full of trolls/flames/bashing.
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JofaMang said:
Yeah, i got suckered back with actual arrival of fermi. It wasn't a huff, just a general dislike for your obvious bias, and I am no less annoyed by you, but a bit more willing to put up with it to take part in the good discussions on the forum. It is surprising to see a moderator allowed to be such a fanboi, but I am guessing your either high enough up in the forum staff heirarchy that you get to represent the THF staff so poorly without reprecussion, or there is general apathy towards the quality of moderation anyhow. Either way, it shouldn't disuade me from interacting with the people who aren't fanboys, nor keep me from taking jabs at those who are such blatant fanboys.

Are you done with the obfuscation yet? Perhaps man up and admit that you are ignorantly slanted?

You know and understand so little it's beyond funny. :lol: 
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Mousemonkey said:
Absolutely, which is why I get a bit cheesed off with the fan boy ranting about the rebadging (and usually getting it wrong to boot) rather than educating people as to what was rebadged and how to tell the differences if there are any, the the 3xx series being a prime example of that.


It's ironic that NV sold re-badged GPU's yet millions still didn't hesitate to buy them, including me :lol: 


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OvrClkr said:
It's ironic that NV sold re-badged GPU's yet millions still didn't hesitate to buy them, including me :lol: 

Which one(s) did you buy and more importantly did you you know that they were a re-badge?
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Mousemonkey said:
Which one(s) did you buy and more importantly did you you know that they were a re-badge?


2x 9800GTX's

2x GTS 250's

AFAIK all four were re-badged...

If I'm not mistaken the 5970 isn't the equiv of 2 5870's and really should have a different name than 5870x2. If all the specs were the same for both GPUs onboard and for the memory as well, than I'd agree it's a re badge.

If you don't do the research then you deserve to be fooled by marketing. At least when spending over $300 on a card...
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Mousemonkey said:
And yet you still bought them knowing that they were essentially all just G92 8800GTS's?


I basically paid for only one of the GTS 250's, Black Friday deal 89.99$ with lifetime and trade-in options with BFG.

The other 3 GPU's were gifts I got from family members (Best Buy gift cards).

Now I want a 470 and have no more gift cards :lol: 

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Sad how the nvidia fanboys try to twist everything to suit their chosen companies abhorrent business practices.

Liquid used to say it was ok, that people should research what they were buying - this was when Nvidia rebadged the 9800gtx to the gts250 btw.

How is this 5970 a rebadge? Two more powerful cards with the name of a less powerful one? If this is a rebadge then XFX really don't have it figured out too well.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=22759

Looks to me like the usual Nvidiot whinging for no reason. Two 5870's, double RAM, 6-screen eyefinity, called the HD 5970 Eyefinity 6 Black Edition

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=24032

whos talking about the 5970 being a rebadge??? I def wasn't???? I dont get it. I only saw ppl saying that Nv are rebadges:S

I just want to add, fanboys are bad, but why are Ati ones so damn sensitive? 8/9 pages about the Fermi are none stop flames. LOL man oh man!

P.S

I figured out what I'm doing with my XFX 5870, I'm trading it in for the 6 eyefinity. I am going to buy a couple of cheap 15 inch monitors, and hook em up:D  can't wait!
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Me neither, I was calling myself out for buying re-badged GPU's, hehe

@ L1qu1d, 15" screens have horrible thick bezels.. What will be the primary use? gaming?
Graphics card Expert

Well you did used to say that people should be smart enough and research cards before they bought. That was your excuse for nv's rebranding of the 9800gtx.

I'm not saying you are saying the same thing here, but others appear to be suggesting that this is somehow in the same ilk as Nvidias rebrands when it's not even close.
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jennyh said:
Well you did used to say that people should be smart enough and research cards before they bought. That was your excuse for nv's rebranding of the 9800gtx.

I'm not saying you are saying the same thing here, but others appear to be suggesting that this is somehow in the same ilk as Nvidias rebrands when it's not even close.


jenny, we all know that NV is the undisputed king of re-badging ;) 

but my dual 250's (1GB) were actually pwning the 4850x2 so the re-badge was not soo bad after all :lol: 











http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gf-gts25...

granted the rebrands takes a little bit more research. But this whole leaving out the X2 and GX2 pisses me off all the same. The rebrands are pathetic, but the X2 things...I mean come on!

I absolutely loved, right away knowing...ok so 5870 X2, def a dual GPU alright I'll see what happens. NOw we got Nv rebranding their cards and their X2s and Ati their X2s. Its just all adding up.

P.S

Yes I too am a epic fail of rebrand. 250 GTS temp card lol yes i know.... oh and windows 7 lol jks:p 

P.S2

for the rebadges I did use to say that, the whole research thing, but I didn't think they would actually be dragged on and on like this.....

8800 GTS, 9800 GTX, 9800 GTX+, 250 GTS etc.....well tech the + and 250 are in their own, but same shitaki.

shadow187 said:
Something seems off, in that A: There is no HD4850, B: the GTS has ~95% scaling, and C: the 4870 performs 10% under the HD4850x2.



Wasn't the 4850 X2 a terrible card though? no driver support and made only be Saph?

OvrClkr said:
Me neither, I was calling myself out for buying re-badged GPU's, hehe

@ L1qu1d, 15" screens have horrible thick bezels.. What will be the primary use? gaming?


Its going to be my new GRID and NFS Shift gamer:)  And maybe hawx lol:p 
Graphics card Master

yea well driving games don't count, they look awesome on EF.

On teh other hand if you were going to buy them for an FPS game then it would actually suck compared to a single large LCD.
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L1qu1d said:
Wasn't the 4850 X2 a terrible card though? no driver support and made only be Saph?


It wasn't terrible, specially for the price vs. twin 250's. I'm just messing with jenny :na: 


Mousemonkey said:
That black Friday thing really grinds my gourd, envy is a cruel mistress. :lol: 



So is the mistress with the whip, thats also a cruel yet sexual mistress lol:p  haha
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Mousemonkey said:
That black Friday thing really grinds my gourd, envy is a cruel mistress. :lol: 


trust me it was not easy,

got to BB at around 9pm (after work), brought my food/chair/cooler/PSP and some CPU magazines then waited till 5am "doors open", and once I was in (knowing already where the GPU was) I ran faster than Usain Bolt and snatched one. I was lucky because i was number 61 out of more than 1,800 in line ;) 
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OvrClkr said:
trust me it was not easy,

got to BB at around 9pm (after work), brought my food/chair/cooler/PSP and some CPU magazines then waited till 5am "doors open", and once I was in (knowing already where the GPU was) I ran faster than Usain Bolt and snatched one. I was lucky because i was number 61 out of more than 1,800 in line ;) 

:o  Doing an all nighter followed by an early morning sprint, now that's what I call dedication to the cause!
L1qu1d said:
So is the mistress with the whip, thats also a cruel yet sexual mistress lol:p  haha

That's a whole different kind of all nighter. [:mousemonkey] :lol: 
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