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July 6, 2010 1:53:17 PM

hey guys, i'm building a new rig that is going to be used primarily for gaming. i'm torn between which cpu to get,
the X4 965 BE or the X6 1090T,

the orther specs will be,

890fx asus mobo
850watt psu,
4gb ddr 3 1600 ripjaws
radeon 5970 2gb

I'm leaning towards the x6, but there is this nagging thought inside my head that keeps saying "go with the 965, you wont notice a difference and save yourself 120 bucks."

what do you guys think?? what would you do?

the games i play primarily are, WOW, BF-BC2, Dragon Age,

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July 6, 2010 2:08:02 PM

Isn't the X4 965 BE a slightly better CPU for gamers?
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July 6, 2010 2:13:44 PM

i'm not quite sure, i'm hoping to find out here
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July 6, 2010 2:32:43 PM

With the Asus 890fx board, is that the Crosshairs mobo...

If so, blow the 1090t and 965be and go for 1055t at same price as 965be.

The 1055t will OC to 4ghz easily on that Asus mobo with the sweet ram you are looking at, Ive yet to fing a 1090t or 965be that can out OC the 1055t because with the right mobo and ram, the FSB on mobo outclocks the CPU limits on air and water...

Only difference will be on LN2 or possibly Phase!!

1055t, same performance as 965BE, Slight OC and same performance as 1090t at nearly half price! (seriously, the Asus board will do this for you with the flickof one switch no experinece needed)

And 4.5GHZ prime 95 stable on air!!

1055t with 5970 is a force to be reasoned with, top 5% performance there for sure!!
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July 6, 2010 2:44:40 PM

i am looking at the crosshairs iv board, but i had no idea you go oc the living daylights out of the 1055t,

so if it's possible to bump that cpu to 3.4 - 3.6 range just on air then i would definatly be game for going that route
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July 6, 2010 3:02:58 PM

It is absolutely easy trust me to get 3.4ghz or 3.6 ghz or even 3.8ghz on 1055t

Think of it this way, if you could have a processor that runs exactly like a stock 1090t for half the price, why not..

Also, the Asus crosshairs board is meant for the OC Gamer crowd, you will be learning and wanting to OC this Board, if not, its a waste of money! there are boards for half the price that will do for non tweak peeps..

The thing you need to be looking at for starts is CPU coolers, the stock cooler will not do unless you plan on running at stock settings..

http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm

Great website, look at top 5 for amd systems, find best price and purchase, I have the Zalman CNPS10X extreme (#6 under amd coolers) cools like a dream, max temps 50celcius all 6 cores 100% load at 3.8ghz

Second is get a good case for cooling

Coolemaster , Sniper, HAF series, Antec 900 1200 basically any good case (one large enough to fit the 5970 my coolemaster scout only just fits in a 5850, will have needed to mod HDD rack to get 5870 in nevermind 5970)

To OC the CPU, in bios, first page, all the settings are there to OC it, basically you will be changing the fsb and ram to get it to 3.2/3.6ghz, nothing else, and you can set up this profile in the oc slot to enable it with the flick of a switch..

Tell you what, when you get the setup, message me and I can talk you through your OC steps till you are confident, you will love it!

Remember, the Asus Crosshairs IV board does not have legacy ide ports or floppy ports or serial ports, you will need Sata optical drives, and USB keys for AHCI (XP-instals) Raid (vista-7x64) driver installs.

Also all the fan headers are PWM (4pin fan headers) so bear this in mind and purchase 4pin PWM fans (Like the apache) mind you 3pin fan connectors still work but they are not PWM controlled.

Yup, bang for buck, 1055t, 890fx, right in the performance sweet spot!
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July 6, 2010 3:03:57 PM

Also you don't mention the size resolution you game at, what screen do you have?
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July 6, 2010 3:09:59 PM

i have a cooler master elite case with 13 inches of space to play with
if i move around my hdd's for the 5970. needs 12 inches i believe. i play on a 24" monitor at 1920 x 1080 (native)

i never really considered a non stock cooler, but i will check these out. thanks for the link.
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July 6, 2010 3:28:20 PM

I checked out your list and i like the thermaltake frio, found it on new egg for 60.00 i think i'll go with that one
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July 6, 2010 3:30:46 PM

Sweet, nice resolution you have, the 5970 is overkill for pretty much all modern games at that resolution (except things like metro on dx11 and crysis) so you will have plenty of future firepower to use (A good thing).

(I plan on getting second 5850 second hand when time arises that I need the extra fps)

The elite is a good case, rear fan installed, get another 120mm fan for the front, and measure the max allowable height for CPU cooler, i think 160mm is the highest in scout, will be elss in elite (poss 140mm)

I use the elites for customer builds on nearly a daily basis, performance for money = win!

Do prefer the fronts of the 335 elites though, nice black and sturdy button!

best of luck, keep us informed how it goes with message system!
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July 6, 2010 3:35:14 PM

Awesome, well thanks for all the advice, can wait to put this baby together.
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July 6, 2010 4:31:07 PM

personally for gaming alone i would go with the 965 for the ultra high clock, i doubt you will ever be able to tell the difference in gaming alone
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July 6, 2010 6:58:39 PM

@ Xaira, i can OC as well as the 965 if not higher with the 1055t, and there are some games I play already that are faster than Quad Core such as World at War, Supreme Commander 2 and FSX.

Also for the future of machine, x6>x4
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July 6, 2010 7:10:02 PM

not to go of topic here a bit, and pls correct me if i'm wrong, but can the 1055t fully utilize 4gb of ddr3 1600 or is that too much?
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July 6, 2010 7:15:14 PM

xaira said:
personally for gaming alone i would go with the 965 for the ultra high clock, i doubt you will ever be able to tell the difference in gaming alone


I would agree if there was no overclocking, but the 1055T isn't much more expensive than the 965 and clocks just as well on a good motherboard.
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July 6, 2010 7:20:30 PM

xaero1ne said:
not to go of topic here a bit, and pls correct me if i'm wrong, but can the 1055t fully utilize 4gb of ddr3 1600 or is that too much?


there is no such thing as too much ram and to speak these words is blasphemy
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July 6, 2010 7:38:39 PM

With the price of the gpu you're gonna get, you might also wanna consider an Intel cpu... the i7 are getting a bit cheaper!
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July 6, 2010 7:59:03 PM

i'm not a big fan of intel. and i dont want to start a flame war either,

i've had 2 intel system in my life and this will be my 4th amd system.

i just prefer to support the under dog. same with ati, i'll always pick ati before nvidia.
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July 6, 2010 8:54:23 PM

xaero1ne said:
i'm not a big fan of intel. and i dont want to start a flame war either,

i've had 2 intel system in my life and this will be my 4th amd system.

i just prefer to support the under dog. same with ati, i'll always pick ati before nvidia.


If you run with the underdog then really you should be getting Nvidia cards this round lol
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July 6, 2010 9:59:27 PM

+1 on nvidia being the underdog, but you gotta love the 5750's power consumption
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July 6, 2010 10:02:27 PM

You gotta love pretty much everything about the 5000 series
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July 6, 2010 11:55:30 PM

LePhuronn said:
You gotta love pretty much everything about the 5000 series


Some of the price/performance isn't great, but otherwise it's hard to find a complaint.
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July 7, 2010 8:54:59 AM

Granted, I don't know why the 5830 exists, especially at that price, and even for a basic card I'd expect at least GDDR3 on the 5400s.
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July 7, 2010 10:25:25 AM

The 1090T is very overclockable, it works perfectly for me.

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July 7, 2010 10:41:04 AM

+1, i had a chance to get a 5830 for $180 and i passed it up, they shudve never limited it to 16 ROPS, 24 wudve been much better
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July 7, 2010 12:38:47 PM

The original question was whether to go with the 965BE or the 1090T. I have both, running side by side on nearly identical systems and from a gaming perspective there is no appreciable difference in overall performance. Most games on the market today fail to take advantage of the additional cores offered by the 1090T.

That does not mean it will always be that way. Also, if you are doing other things (vice gaming) like video rendering and encoding, you will see performance differences between the 2 CPUs with the 1090T coming out on top.

From a gaming and general use perspective, both are very good and can be overclocked well (Tom's has multiple forum threads on the subject and your particular user experience is sure to vary). You really can't go wrong either way.

For my vote, I would go the x6 route in the event you are able to take advantage of the increased capacity with future games/apps releases.

Go get some!
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July 17, 2010 1:55:32 AM

Best answer selected by xaero1ne.
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