ATI caught cheating in Crysis to outperform GTX480

Now that the wowser thread title has got your attention... let's hope the driver was bugged.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid, [...] st/?page=3

Wait...what? ;-;

I didn't see anything about that in the link, maybe someone can explain it?

Yeah same here MM, I tried two different translators.

Does your head hurt now as well? I'm going to sink a couple of beers and try again to see if it makes more sense when I'm half cut.

From what I'm getting from google-translate, I think what the article is saying is that ATI is using a jerry-rigged version of AA/MSAA/etc in Crysis, while the GTX480 is using the actual AA that looks much better... ?

Or they are just sitting back and giggling their socks off at the concept of the competition having to skew the results when faced with what is effectively the "broken" version of the GF100's.

Exactly, if you look at Anands launch review of the 5870 and the new #'s generated when compared with the Gtx 480, many are within a frame or 3. And thats 6 revisions ! They are able to say (without lying) a 5 or 7% in Driver notes, increase as long as there is that at some unspecified resolution and quality setting. The next month , they tweek for less AA and a higher resolution and they magically can claim a new 5% increase !. I'm not pointing fingers at either side, but if you added up these %'s in every driver release the number would not make sense.

Umm... I don't read German, and it doesn't translate well ^_^. Anyway, I guess I'll wait and see if any other hardware sites reach this conclusion, using methods I can read, before drawing a conclusion.

Perhaps one of the Mods may want to contact the Toms Hardware Editors and see what they can dig up... they have too much free time imo.

Can someone please explain in a summarized form what's happenin'?

It takes some very 'smart' and in the know people to catch this stuff thats why.
Long story short , it allows the gpu to work less, increasing performance. Best explanation seems like this post
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] stcount=42

Would "cheating" in AF really make a huge difference in performance? I thought the performance hit was pretty small.

I find it lol that both shadow and randomizer have the same avatar. I confuse those two every time...

It's interesting becuase last time i checked i believe their AF quality is superior technically speaking when compared to nvidia's style. I'd believe that it's a bug for now at least.

Both sides used to cheat, like NFS and some missing textures, but Why the website didn't post bench both cards @ same settings then to back up their claims?
Its not called cheating if the 480 cant render it at the same settings lmao

If its true or false accusations, Im sure nVidia would never keep their mouth shut for nothing.

Anyway, I cant even translate that rofl

And bob, why did you copy randomizers avatar lol?

We should just all do that one day. The forum would be nearly unreadable.

lol- that would have been a BLAST:-D

If we did that, Randomizer would just chnage his Avatar on April 1st.

I saw this stuff on XS, but honestly I don't really see much difference. Even then, when you're busy shooting things, are you really going to notice what the ground looks like? Either way, it still looks great lol.

still overpriced IMO.

Right, But this could possibly be a game-changer.

If the Crysis prefromance got a 5% boost, and it was lowered in price to 300$, It could be a good deal.

Crysis is playble at all resoultions with aa except 2560x1600 with a 5970.

Crysis just doesn't work at 2560x1600 with AA with even 4 GTX 480s as of now.

If you move around the textures apparently flicker, something a screenshot of standing still won't show you.

Ati has always given me random flickering issues in some games (see bfbc2, Dirt2, Mount and Blade) Usually requires a patch to fix, nothing new if this is happening in crysis.