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Budget i5 system suggestions

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April 29, 2010 7:41:42 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Near future

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, internet, watching movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Monitor, keyboard, mouse

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: NewEgg

PARTS PREFERENCES: none

OVERCLOCKING: maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE:no

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1600x900

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: This will be my first time building a computer, and I don't want anything hugely complex. Also, i would really like to stick with Intel and not go with AMD.

Here are the parts that I have been thinking about getting, but I wanted some advice before I pulled the trigger. My budget is no more than 850.

Case:
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo:
BIOSTAR TH55B HD LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI Micro ATX Intel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU:
EVGA 896-P3-1257-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI .
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU:
Thermaltake TR2 TRX-650M 650W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU:
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM:
A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333G (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1333GB2G8-2G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3250318AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD Drive:
Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I really would appreciate any sugestions or comments. Thanks.
a c 84 B Homebuilt system
April 29, 2010 7:46:34 PM

Not a good build in general. You're skimping on a lot of quality and wasting a lot of money on lower performing parts.

CPU/Mobo: i5-750 and Gigbyte GA-P55A-UD3 $318. A high quality, very future proof board. It's also a P55 board, which is meant for the i5-750 while the H55 chipset is meant for the i3/i5 dual cores.
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x2 GB 1600 mhz CAS Latency 7 $120. Faster RAM.
GPU: HD 5770 $155. A much better GPU.
HDD: Seagate 7200.12 500 GB $55. A bigger, faster drive.
Case/PSU: Antec 300 Illusion and Earthwatts 430W $105. A higher quality PSU. Thermaltakes are generally garbage.
Optical: Cheap SATA DVD burner $22
HSF (if OC): Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus $35 (with free card reader)

Total: $810
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 29, 2010 7:54:53 PM

As long as you don't mind the fact that you'll most likely have to get a new mobo the next time you upgrade, that should be fine.
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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
April 29, 2010 7:57:54 PM

Yes, excluding Intel's tendency to change sockets at the drop of a hat, the board above is future proof.

I will say that you'll be getting a better performing, more future proof build if you go with AMD...
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April 29, 2010 8:28:43 PM

Thanks for the suggestions!
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April 29, 2010 8:51:07 PM

What kind of AMD system would you suggest MadAdmiral?
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April 29, 2010 9:10:22 PM

I took a look on newegg and noticed that the CPU you suggested is an Athlon. Can you tell me how much of a difference is there in the performance of the Athlon and the Phenom chipsets? I really don't know much about the AMD chips. Thanks
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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
April 29, 2010 9:47:22 PM

The Athlons don't have L3 cache. It's not a big performance difference, especially in games.
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April 29, 2010 9:58:29 PM

OK, thanks! I will really have to look into AMD.
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 29, 2010 10:57:44 PM

Do you know MadAdmiral if the coolermaster heatsink ever has trouble fitting in cases? I'm thinking of getting one for myself.

Is that seagate faster than the samsung F3 or is it just preference? I ask because people seem to be suggesting it more often now, even though I thought the charts didn't really show much of a difference between the two.

@ldanielb

Especially since you should be able to just do a drop-in upgrade of a better AMD CPU later. That graphics card is quite good.
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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
April 30, 2010 1:33:35 AM

The HSF will have trouble in some smaller cases, but it's not especially huge. I think it's about 5 inches tall at the most, so it shouldn't be a problem in most cases.

The Seagates are better in gaming (slightly) while the Samsungs are better in a lot of media applications. To be honest, I've got the link to the Seagate stored since the Samsung was going in and out of stock and just haven't changed it. I know in the 1 TB range, the Seagate is cheaper.
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April 30, 2010 2:42:38 AM

False_Dmitry_II said:
Do you know MadAdmiral if the coolermaster heatsink ever has trouble fitting in cases?

What case do you have? I have the Hyper 212+ in a fairly tight atx mid tower, the cooler master elite 310. There's maybe 2mm of space (probably less) between the top of the cooler and the side of the case but it works great.

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Socket 1156 is pretty dead

I don't even know what to say.
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 30, 2010 6:20:58 AM

My case is the Xpider II. Bought it in Microcenter mid 2005.
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April 30, 2010 10:05:45 AM

Unless your motherboard tray sits high in the case, you shoudl have room. It may end up being tight like mine though. Your case appears to be 7.8" wide. Mine is only 7.5". The Hyper 212+ is 158.5 mm or 6.24". (That tells me that the height of my motherboard tray + offsets + board + CPU is 1.25" because I really have very little room left.)

Drop a ruler in your case and see if you have more than 6.25" from the top of the motherboard to the outer case wall. Add a little breathing room for the CPU height. But unless your motherboard sits very high in your case you may find you have a couple inches left over.
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a c 84 B Homebuilt system
April 30, 2010 11:18:22 AM

@Timop: I am comparing the F3 to the new 7200.12s. If I was thinking of the F1, the Seagate would be drastically ahead. The differences between the two is very slight no matter what you're using them for anyway.
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May 1, 2010 12:39:48 AM

Well, it's really not worth getting into. We probably have different definitions of dead hardware. But since you asked I'll give you a few: i7 880, i7 875k, i7 870s, i5 680, i5 655k, i3 550
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May 1, 2010 4:17:33 AM

well the 1156 isn't died in fact it is very much alive but it won't be in a year or two calse intel will come out with the next big thing
amd on the other had like NEVER changers there sockets which is a good thing cales 2 years down the road when intel comes out with ther new chip and amd makes a comeback with a new chip of there own it will likely be AM3 so if you want to get the new chip you don't have to go buy a new mobo that has not been out long so you don't know anything about it and it could be a total crap pile you can just buy the new chip and pop it in you old trusty mobo :) 

AMD rocks: i have a gigibyte mobo with a AMD Athlon II x3 and it is the fastest thing you have ever seen in games

the main reson anyone you ask is going to tell you to get wit intel is because intel last longer.
Intels r soppost to last like 10 years. but AMDs r good for like 3-4 years and think about it. IF YOU R A HARDCORE GAMER LIKE MOST OF US, YOU R GONNA UPGRADE IN WAYYY LESS THAN 3 YEARS!!!!!!
SO WHO GIVES A CRAP PILE THAT YOUR INTEL LAST 10 YEARS CALSE IN 10 YEAR IT'LL BE SO OUT DATED THAT YOUR KIDS WOULT WANT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 1, 2010 5:54:15 AM

Uh, where the crap did you hear that AMD CPU's only last 3-4 years?

I've got my 5 old AMD CPU 3200+ in my fileserver running 24/7 and not only that it's also running SETI the whole time.
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May 1, 2010 2:54:17 PM

only 3-4 years???

I think we've gotten a little off track. Largely my fault.

ldanielb,
Anything else we can help you with?
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May 1, 2010 6:50:15 PM

You should be a little more open minded tim....who knows how many single core Pentium 4's there are out there still going strong. In my experience an intel cpu is the last thing to go bad, I have 2.0Ghz P4 that is going on almost 10 years and I have replaced the power supply, added more ram, and a bigger HDD.

I'm not knocking AMD but technology advances and things become 'dead' to some people but just because there is something faster does not mean the older stuff is 'dead'.
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May 3, 2010 7:20:38 PM

I think i have been convinced to go with an AMD system, thanks for all the help.
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