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July 7, 2010 7:17:35 PM

Hi all,

Ive been working on building a new computer for use as a gaming platform and also for work. The main programs running will be Solidworks/Catia, Photoshop, video editing/dvd making software (if anyone has any good suggestion on this, my old one was c***), Steam games, SupCom, Battlefield, and a few others. I havent really done Crysis or anything that high end, but i want this system to run everything well and last for a number of years.

I have two setups that i have been looking at that both come to around $1250. I dont want to spend too much more than this.

i7-920 setup
Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz
ASRock X58 Extreme 3 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5
Rosewill DESTROYER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
WD SiliconEdge Blue 2.5" 64GB SATA II Internal SSD
G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 Power Supply

i7-860
Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz
ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5
Rosewill DESTROYER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
WD SiliconEdge Blue 2.5" 64GB SATA II Internal SSD
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply


I like both of the motherboards (even though they are expensive) because they have Sata3 and USB3. I dont want to spend the money to get a higher clock processor. I like the idea of a SSD as the boot drive and to hold some of the major programs of the system but i will also have a Sata3 capable drive in there soon.
The extra power is there to allow me room to expand with another graphics card, more ram, and more internal hard drives.

The 920 setup is just over $100 more expensive (prices from newegg.com). The fact that the 920 is identical in price to the 860 makes me lean to the 920 setup, both have hyperthreading and are overclockable, something ill work with a bit once i get the system.

Thanks for taking the time to read the post and any and all input would be appreciated on any of the components or anything.

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July 7, 2010 8:14:26 PM

The only difference between your two builds is the i7, the motherboard and the power supply. plus the additional ram in the 920 system. If the motherboard and cpu cost the same, go with the 920 system. probably better resale value since the 6-core is on that socket, plus the additional 2GB of ram will be worth it for your programs.

Question though: Why the different PSUs? In fact, why such powerful PSUs in the first place? You couldn't possibly need more than a 650W corsair if you overclock. Nevermind, just saw your reasoning :p 

The 920 setup is just over $100 more expensive
Why? What is it that costs $100 more?

If you want your system to last for a number of years in gaming, get a lesser costing CPU and a more expensive GPU like the 5850 or 5870. I have a 3870 that I am happy with right now and I game at 1920x1080, except in a few games.
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July 7, 2010 8:46:43 PM

1156 is dead end of statement
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July 7, 2010 8:54:33 PM

xaira said:
1156 is dead end of statement

Then by that logic, so is socket 1366. Since there will be nothing better than the core i7 980X coming out on it.

Seriously, "dead" is overused and misused. A socket is not "dead" if you can build a good, up to date computer around it, which meets your needs for a fair price.
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July 7, 2010 9:01:20 PM

im just sayin, 1155 is gonna kill it, 1366 as ultra high end will not be replaced until q3 2011 sooo, i go with tripple channel memory, and ya never know maybe intel will decide to release a 2.66 hexacore for $250?
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July 7, 2010 9:24:48 PM

Well if you have a frys near bye, they have a i7 930 and a nice Gigabyte board for $384, the same setup @ newegg is $500 The deal will last til sold out or friday when a new deal is posted. Wish I didnt buy so many fireworks now.
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July 7, 2010 10:46:21 PM

Ill have to look at some frys adds, if that mobo is Sata3 and USB3 capable, ill be sold.
Also, does anyone know where it find a good power calculator for a system? Some of the guys i work with were saying i need to check my system with one of those (thats why i overestimated and probably have a larger than necessary power supply in there)
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July 7, 2010 10:52:05 PM

enzo matrix said:

The 920 setup is just over $100 more expensive
Why? What is it that costs $100 more?

If you want your system to last for a number of years in gaming, get a lesser costing CPU and a more expensive GPU like the 5850 or 5870. I have a 3870 that I am happy with right now and I game at 1920x1080, except in a few games.


The better motherboard, ram, and PSU combined cost an additional $100+.

Also, what kind of setup would you then suggest for a longer lasting but less expensive CPU? I considered buying a 5870 (which i think is what you meant you have?) but it is at least an additional 100.

This system is not intended to be a specific high end gaming platform (though i want to be able to play some awesome games) but rather a good solid, all around investment.

Any input on the case, ram, or anything else would be helpful too, thanks so far.
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July 7, 2010 10:56:44 PM

I believe the x58 has more PCI-E lanes then the P55, so you'll get a bit more life from a crossfire down the road. If I remember correctly you can run the x58 in x16/x16 mode and the P55 would run in x8/x8 mode.
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July 7, 2010 11:22:32 PM

CrazyWiggin said:
(which i think is what you meant you have?)

I wish :p  Nope, I mean "I have a 3870 that I am happy with right now and I game at 1920x1080, except in a few games."
It's a 3 year old card still going strong. I can comfortably (60+FPS with occasional drop into the 50s) play most games at that resolution with AA turned off, and some settings turned down. Plus it supports DX10.
I haven't upgraded yet because I didn't consider 3870-->4870 a big enough jump.
3870>4670 BUT 4870>5770. So the jump to this new generation of cards is not as big a performance jump as to the 4xxx cards.

My point was though, that a good 5870 will likely last you. Although, I must say the pricing is still too much for them.
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July 8, 2010 12:03:27 AM

860= i7 930 on 1156 and dual channel memory. those are the main differences. if it makes an sense, 1366 may be dead, but 1156 is dead...er. 1156 is gonna go first, and also, once you buy a 860, you cant upgrade, as they arent putting any better cpus on the 1156 lineup. 1366 on the other hand is going to be replace right around 2012, and therefore stil has some time in it. not only that, but if you buy a i7 930 now, upgrade to a 980x when it isnt so expensive. 1366 mobos have more pci lanes, therefore allowing for real xfire and sli (most 1156 boards cant exceed x8 x8...where as 1366 can do x16 x16 and so on). also, 1366 supports triple channel memory, 860 does dual (however i heard a RUMOR that 1365 will be dual channel again). if you can the i7 for 200 bucks at microcenter, do it, if not, either get the 875K or still the i7 930.
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July 8, 2010 2:28:57 AM

CrazyWiggin said:
Hi all,

Ive been working on building a new computer for use as a gaming platform and also for work. The main programs running will be Solidworks/Catia, Photoshop, video editing/dvd making software (if anyone has any good suggestion on this, my old one was c***), Steam games, SupCom, Battlefield, and a few others. I havent really done Crysis or anything that high end, but i want this system to run everything well and last for a number of years.

I have two setups that i have been looking at that both come to around $1250. I dont want to spend too much more than this.

i7-920 setup
Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz
ASRock X58 Extreme 3 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5
Rosewill DESTROYER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
WD SiliconEdge Blue 2.5" 64GB SATA II Internal SSD
G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 Power Supply

i7-860
Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz
ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5
Rosewill DESTROYER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
WD SiliconEdge Blue 2.5" 64GB SATA II Internal SSD
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply


I like both of the motherboards (even though they are expensive) because they have Sata3 and USB3. I dont want to spend the money to get a higher clock processor. I like the idea of a SSD as the boot drive and to hold some of the major programs of the system but i will also have a Sata3 capable drive in there soon.
The extra power is there to allow me room to expand with another graphics card, more ram, and more internal hard drives.

The 920 setup is just over $100 more expensive (prices from newegg.com). The fact that the 920 is identical in price to the 860 makes me lean to the 920 setup, both have hyperthreading and are overclockable, something ill work with a bit once i get the system.

Thanks for taking the time to read the post and any and all input would be appreciated on any of the components or anything.


i7-920 is dead, its been replaced by the i7-930 which I believe the exact same price...actually I just checked and on newegg is actually cheaper buy like 5 bucks. So no point in getting the 920 anymore.
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July 8, 2010 2:54:57 AM

The frys deal is definitely sata 3.
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July 8, 2010 9:04:32 AM

A P55+Lynnfield(i7 860) will cost less than X58 + Bloomfield(i7 930).They both have similar performance, though the Lynnfield has slight advantages in game benchmarks.If you want to save money, do not want SLI/CrossFire and want lower power consumption, then go for the i7 860.
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