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May 1, 2010 5:13:11 AM


Need help with building a Budget gaming pc for my Buddy. He needs it for school and WoW but I will get into that.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Soon but not immediatley soon (still has plenty of time)

BUDGET RANGE:600-800 (may be persuaded to go a ltl over)...After rebates and shipping included

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming (Mostly WoW and upcoming blizzard games) School and gen use (internet, etc.)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: None. Needs all parts but may not need Os, keyboard, and mouse. Plz include anyway.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com...U.S. Sites if you can find a better part or cheaper part.

PARTS PREFERENCES: None really...Just want best deal...or Bang for buck...He's a student

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION:Not a preferred res but a decent one on a 20" wld be nice...If 1080p can be done, more then welcome then

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:He wants a nice case. Likes looks and stuff. Needs to run WoW on ultra Graphic settings...I know it doesn't take much. One of his friends uses a 9800 gt and he likes it so if you can get that with a 1gb of mem that be great. Anything more you can give to make this guys pc better wld be great. Thanks.

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May 1, 2010 8:48:22 AM

I will shave cost where possible, but I want to build the kid a rig than can last and evolve ... I am just going to throw some links at you which are guaranteed to be THE best parts to give you plenty of headroom and lots of future longevity and flexibility ... overhead (not overkill).

I am thinking ...

890 mobo (Hex Ready with Future Ports and Native SATA3) ...
A fast proc with at least 2 Cores (for that mobo) ...
4GB of fast 1600c7 RAM ...
Hyper 212+ Cooler
Radeon ~5670
SpinPoint F3 500GB 7200RPM HDD or SEAGATE 7200.12 500GB 7200RPM HDD $56
SONY DVDR $22
Corsair ~450W~550Watt PSU
Antec 300 Case (ILLUSION model comes with fans installed)

GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core - C3 Revision $99.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler ** Hyper 212 Plus wins a 10/10 review from Maximum PC ** $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
CAS 7 RAM $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX HD-567X-YNFC Radeon HD 5670 (Redwood) 512MB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity $94.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVDR SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive - OEM - $22
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply **Voted Best Power Supply Manufacturer by Custom PC 2009 - $92
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec 300 Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (w/fans) $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS VW224U Black 22" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ HDCP Support 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 5000:1) Built in Speakers ... $170

TOTAL ~ $883 (without OS KB Mouse)

Should come in under $1K (Shipped) with *EVERYTHING*

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May 1, 2010 8:51:37 AM

PS ... There are LOTS of places you could shave cost on the build I just posted (PSU, Case, RAM, PROC, MB, GPU) ... BUT I WOULD *NOT* ... TIMES CHANGE FAST !

Mobo is latest HexCore ready w future ports and 2x CrossFire ready ...
RAM & Cooler will allow OC in future ... TRUST THAT THIS IS A GOOD IDEA !
The PROC is a Black Edition ... Excellent for OC and latent cores MAY be unlocked.
The GPU will allow respectable game-play and Home Theater and Multi Monitor (Eyefinity) and Crossfire, in future.
You won't find cheaper drives that are not crap ... these are good drives. ... The monitor is POPULAR!
The PSU will allow 2x crossfire of up to TWO 5770s ... High Quality and Home-Safe (Crossfire READY)
... A large man can stand on top of that case ... Good ventilation and fans ... Excellent internals. VALUE!

= Alvin =
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May 1, 2010 8:56:47 AM


ALSO ...

... A Student eMail address will net you an ACADEMIC copy of Win7-64 !
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May 1, 2010 9:04:03 AM

I agree with Alvins post, while you could go for slightly slower RAM, the cost difference is near negligible for reputable RAM dealers so pay the few extra dollars for the 1600Mhz.

The graphics card is weak, but if you are on a tight budget sacrifices have to be made. If the extra cash would be raised then definately a 5770 at least would be better. Having said that, you have specified WoW as the main game, so the CPU is key, like EQ2, Wow is very CPU dependant so a good fast CPU is more important than the GPU (not to mention the fact that a GPU is much more easily upgraded at a later date).

The only real spot you could look to save money would be the Motheboard, you could downgrade to a motherboard that does not support SLI or XFire as they tend to be a fair bit cheaper (I know an Intel one is about $90). Due to I myself putting little faith in XFire set ups I always sacrifice the XFire option on a mobo, just make sure you are not losing out on anything important in addition to this. Another reason why I would suggest a non XFire board is because the GPU you are using is one you would not bother XFiring, it is too weak to justify using two when you can but a much more powerful card later on instead. A 5850 in a year or so's time would be far better than two of those 5670s in XFire even if all the games did support it perfectly
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May 1, 2010 9:07:52 AM

Also, though this would be breaking the budget, you can get a 2ms response 24 inch monitor for $219
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Finally, and obviously I do not recommend this as it is not legal (unles your friend at least owns a legit Windows XP License) you can save money by buying the Windows Upgrade edition rather than a full version - you CAN install this on a fresh Hardrive, it takes just a little playing around to activate (if your friend does own a copy of Vista or XP this is completely legal as ong as he no longer uses the old OS)
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May 1, 2010 9:13:55 AM

I would have said 5770 myself but nice list Alvin :thumbup:
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May 1, 2010 9:17:09 AM

Yeah usually I would say nothing less than a 5770 but at such a tight budget something needs to be sacrificed, and as his main game is a CPU orientated game he can get away with it
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May 1, 2010 9:21:46 AM

How about:

AMD rana 3.0 ghz x3 $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Sapphire HD 5770 $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Biostar TA785G3hD $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ 500w psu $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And everything else from Alvin's list, drop the Hyper 212 because I doubt the younger brother will be OC'ing
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
CAS 7 RAM $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVDR SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive - OEM - $22
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

Antec 300 Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (w/fans) $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

ASUS VW224U Black 22" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ HDCP Support 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 5000:1) Built in Speakers ... $170

Comes out to $914. Hmm ok so a bit over $800 but will be hard to do with a moderately good video card and a 22" monitor. And I say 5770 because I remember the days when I used to do 25mans, I would so lag down to <5fps. And this way the 5770 can keep him happy with with games other then WoW as well.
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May 1, 2010 9:26:08 AM

Funny ... I was CERTAIN that half a dozen techs would be shouting that the IGP would be MORE than adequate for a decent WoW experience ! ... Sounded like he wanted to Max-Out the WoW settings, so, a 4670 WOULD have been slight overkill ... but the 5670 is a "top-of-series" card and is a better candidate for HTPC, Multi-Monitor (Prime Eyefinity) and Future CrossFire, AND it was about $20 more than the 4670 ... Honestly, Guys ... Any MORE on the GPU (however prudent) and gKay and MadAdmiral and Batuchka and Fang would be slapping me around ... no?

... So, yeah ... Mr. OP ... DO get the 5770 (if you are listening with BOTH ears) ... It REALLY would be worth another $40 stretch ...

... Others may want to argue the number of CPU cores or want to go for Athlon-II ...
... Ideally? ... I'd love to give the kid a 3 Core version of the PhII(BE) CPU that I picked.

= Alvin =
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May 1, 2010 9:30:23 AM

Well it is 5:27 EST Alvin, who's awake on a SATURDAY besides you and I.
Honestly I'm waiting for sunlight to come up so I can change the oil, tranny fluid and diff fluid on my suv.

4670 would be slight overkill and 5670 would be thensome. I was just trying to pack more then a WoW machine into that $800. Mainly because I bought a laptop back then for WoW and it ran fine but then a year later I started struggling in 40s/25s and even some 10 mans.

And the X3... honestly I'll slap myself if someone goes out in this modern days and buys a x2 core proc. That's so 2007.
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May 1, 2010 9:31:32 AM

FastX?,

You blew his longevity completely out of the water (if that is important to him).
... I'll give you the Hyper 212 and even that proc, if you just give me my motherboard back ??? ... Please?! ... The RAM is a $20 premium ... better to pay up front ...
... He can ditch your proc for a cheap 4Core ... in a couple of years.

... But I like the 5770 ... who wouldn't? ... Hey mister ... go pick a lil bit more money off that tree. Good kids deserve (even) better !

= Al =
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May 1, 2010 9:38:14 AM

See the thing is would the kid really need usb3, sata iii and a 2nd pci-e 16x (although it is 8x 8x). I know where you were going with your build but trying to think about how much more money would go into future upgrades.

And honestly the hyper 212 isn't worth it in a budget build. I noticed on mine I saw a 25-26c stable on a cool morning (29 on warmer days) and maybe 35 on load. The stock HSF will sit him at around 34-35c and probably 40s on load if he uses some lube. Honestly 40s is still very good.

You know what I just realized I added $92 in for your power supply into the $914 total. Ok so your mobo back less the Hyper 212 still is $880 ish.

Seriously why are you up on a saturday morning?

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May 1, 2010 9:59:52 AM

You can have the 212 ... can do that if he decides to get serious.
... I just benched my proc against yours, over at anandtech ... it's neck-n-neck.
... I'm thinkin' that mobo can move in any direction ... god knows what peripherals are comin down the pipeline, in the next 4 years. Hex Ready? Yeah. .... Ready for SSD duex ? ... yup ... For how much more than last years mobo (by a crappy builder ... yup). ???

... I am awake because I just upgraded my air-sucking cricket USB modem to CLEAR 4G WIMAX and I also stopped by StarBuck's (last night) and they ground me a BIG BAG of Italian Roast Espresso and I just took the last gulp of a full 8oz bistro mug of that espresso ... and I make it SO strong!

... So I've been zooming around the planet and enjoying missed episodes of FlashForward and Fringe and doing long delayed uploads to YouTube, etc.

= Al =
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May 1, 2010 4:21:57 PM

Don't forget to keep in mind that the new expansion: "Cataclysm" will be out soon. It will increase the minimum system requirements.
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May 1, 2010 7:21:14 PM

rsmith13 is right, the new graphics in Cataclysm will require more power then WotLK. Even with a HD5770 the OPs friend wouldn't be able to run Ultra high settings over 1680X1050. Here's some benchmarks to look through.

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,693737/WoW-Wrath-of-...

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,689378/WoW-Wrath-of-...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2848/7

a bit dated, but they should help. Remember the next expansion of WoW will push the requirements even harder.

The AMD 870 with the SB850 are out now and may save a few bucks.
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-87TUSB3&src=FR&p...
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May 2, 2010 3:22:54 AM


Inexpensive PC for Warcraft, total price $648 (not counting shipping, or mail-in rebates) --$838 with monitor (bottom of list),

(MOTHERBOARD) Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 (P55 chipset w/Ultra Durable 3), $105 free shipping,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E168...

(Case) Cooler Master Elite 310, micro ATX, $40 free shipping,

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Elite-Window-RC-310...

(Power Supply) Antec Earthwatts EA-500, $65 free shipping,

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-EA500-Power-Supply-Cases/dp...

(CPU) Intel Core i3-530 (Clarkdale 2.93GHz), $120 free shipping,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(RAM) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB), DDR3 1333 (CAS8, 1.5V), $109,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(Video Card) XFX HD575XZNFC, Radeon 5750 1GB, $129 free shipping,

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-5750-Graphics-HD575XZN...

(HARD DRIVE) SAMSUNG HD502HJ, Spinpoint F3 500GB SATA, $55 free shipping,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(DVDRW) Lite-On iHAS224-06, Black 24X SATA, $25,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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(Monitor) Asus VH236H, 23 inch 2ms 1080p, $190 free shipping,

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=AS-VH236H

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WoW runs well on a Core i3, and favors a 1GB version video card,

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/62

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,689378/WoW-Wrath-of-...
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May 2, 2010 1:48:12 PM

Anyone see this barebones kit for 400?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Need to add a cooler for the cpu though. So with say the cooler suggested above go to 425.

xfx 1 gb 5750--140

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

So at 565.

22 inch Asus monitor for 180(before rebate)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Say 745 total. I think the power supply was rated for 32 amps. With the extra you could upgrade the psu, or if it's enough, bump to a 5770.


Another option, very much overkill, but close to budget...I'll throw it out there.

Barebones with phenom 2 6 core 1055T, 4 gb memory, 750 ultra lsp psu rated for 45 amps and 1 tb hard drive--560 before 10 dollar rebate.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Toss in the 5750 from above, price goes to 700.

Add in 20 inch monitor for 120

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A little over...Can drop price by going to a 19 inch. I like this option though because it gives him plenty of wiggle room, should kill WoW, and if he wants a better video card in a few months, this rig should be more than up to it.
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May 2, 2010 1:57:58 PM


Have not seen the OP since his openning post. Let's wait to "hear back" before we knock ourselves out.

= Al =

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May 8, 2010 12:30:11 AM

So after all the posts I need to say that I can not go over 800...that is the limit...sry...
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May 8, 2010 2:39:16 PM

Well ... there is about $300 worth of great advice, on this thread so, pick and choose and shave and short-change to your heart's content.

You ditched your own thread and did not participate .... "Sorry"

= Al =
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