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May 2, 2010 3:52:12 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:
--> within the next 2 weeks, hopefully week of 5/10. Looking to spend ~800, no more than 900.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT:
--> CAD/rendering work with programs such as 3DS Max, Revit Architecture, Photoshop etc...
--> Gaming/Multimedia (video/music)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED:
--> Monitor
--> Mouse/Keyboard
--> Speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS:
--> Newegg

PARTS PREFERENCES:
Right now I'm looking at using a Core i7-860. Would it be more logical to get a i5-750, and a better GPU? This computer's main purpose is for CAD software and running renderings and Photoshop, and then of course gaming (I would like to be able to play newer games) and multimedia.
Here are the parts I'm looking to pick up:

--> Processor/Mobo/GPU/HDD/RAM Combo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...

--> Case/PSU Combo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

I also have a few specific questions.
--> If I plan on eventually upgrading to SLI, should I just go with a full size tower? Or will the majority of Mid-ATX cases be able to house 2 GPU's?
--> I already asked this but right now my biggest concern is which processor to go with. Because switching from an i7 to an i5 frees up alot of money.

SLI OR CROSSFIRE:
--> I definitely want to in the future, however if I go with the i7 I simply won't have enough money to get 2 gpu's.

May 2, 2010 4:11:24 AM

Most definitely go with a lower CPU and better GPU. Go for the i5-750 instead of the i7-860.... In fact for your budget I would go with the AMD Phenom X4 955 (159$). Its a very strong processor for your CAD needs and will match the i5/i7 in gaming. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but CAD software are dependent on GPU power as well and the 955 can suit your processing needs perfectly.

As far as GPU goes, take a look at the 5830 instead, or the 5850 if you have the money left in your budget. You can always get 1 5850 now and one in a few months. Running 2x 5850 is extremely powerful (equivalent to the acclaimed 5970 in fact!)

The vast majority of mid cases will fit two video card (in fact it may be all of them). A full size tower is two big for the build you are looking to make.

I'm not too sure about the PSU listed. I am not familiar with Rosewill PSUs but I've never been recommended one myself. Take a look at the Corsair 750TX it is one of the most popular PSUs at the moment and will definitely be sufficient for you even if you decide to CF.

I'd whip you up a build but I need to get some sleep! Try making something with the recommendations I posted!
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May 2, 2010 11:31:19 PM

Thanks for the input.

Here's the new build using a intel Core i5-750 processor.

-->Case: NZXT Hades Crafted Series HADE-001BK Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-->PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC - $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-->Motherboard/CPU Combo: Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz/ASUS P7P55D PRO LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - $354.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

-->RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-->GPU: SAPPHIRE 100283-3L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 - $159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-->HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total as of right now is $924.93, which is right on the border of my upper limit. I was wondering if anybody had any other suggestions for parts that may reduce the cost, but keep the performance relatively the same. If I could free up some money I'd like to get a HD58xx series instead of the 5770. Could I go with a lower wattage power supply? Case is a little expensive, but I'm really digging it.

A few questions, I really would like to build this ASAP so I have the summer to learn to tweak and OC, but is it worth it to wait for the price to come down? How drastic will the price difference be? And should I be chasing USB 3.0/PCI-E 2.1/etc... should I get these features on a motherboard now, or will I be able to upgrade later, are they even worth it? I know that I should be able to get a 3rd party USB 3.0/SATA 6gb/s card, but I'm not sure about the PCI-E 2.1.

So right now for this build my plan is to get what I have listed here, then pick up another 5770 a month or so down the line to CF them. Probably add more RAM down the line, and attempt to do some light OC'ing.

Is there anything fundamental I'm missing? Any compatibility issues I should look at? Thanks for any input!


Regards,

Alex
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May 3, 2010 2:24:18 PM

1. For CAD/rendering, you want a i7 930 or a Phenom II X6

2. 750W is overkill unless planing to do CrossFire. DO NOT EVER SKIMP ON THE PSU. Get a quality unit from Corsair, XFX, PC Power & Cooling, Antec or Seasonic.

3. nVidia cards are better for CAD type work. Currently, the ATI cards have issues with 2D work.

My recommendations:

AMD Phenom II X6
ASUS AM3 EVO 790X (dual x8 in CrossFire)
4*2GB DDR3 1600 GSkill Ripjaws (Total of 8GB)
Samsung F3s 1TB or 500GB
HAF 922
Hyper 212+ heatsink
Corsair 650TX
nVidia GTS240* or better card (Go nVidia since CS4/CS5 have CUDA acceleration, makes Zoom,etc MUCH smoother)
Windows 7 x64.

*Note: Note that this is not a real gaming card or a gaming build. I meant this to be for CAD/rendering. If you want to play games, consider a 5750, however be aware that the current drivers have issues with 2D work in AutoCAD. This should be fixed with the next dive release.
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