AFAIK, the GeForce GTX 480 performs and 10%-15% better than the HD 5870, although as the drivers improve, the performance of the GTX 480 should too. Also, the GTX 480 has PhysX, 3D Vision Surround (although it may require more than one card). However, the HD 5870 has higher overclocking headroom, produces less heat, has lower power consumption, ATi Eyefinity (3D Vision Surround without the 3D but I know it does not require another card in CFX). I'd personally get the HD 5870 though, I don't like hot and loud cards, lol.
anybody who believes a 480/470 makes sense are in the same breed of fanboyism who believed the 3850/3870 made sense.
a 480 is clearly a fanboy product.
maybe not quite as simple as that, but i agree for the most part.
the 480 isn't that bad, but its not only more expensive but consumes ALOT of power, and puts out dangerous amounts of heat. the exposed metal (without a fan to help move the air) gets to 70c and over during gaming. this basically radiates heat to nearby components...
if it were the same price as a 5870, i might be worth buying. since you get more power for the sake of more power/heat. but at the current pricing its jsut not a good deal.
Personally, I would pick a 5870 over the 480. I don't like the idea of spending an extra 100 bucks for just 10-15% increase in performance plus the extra heat and noise. Anyway, at the end of the day, it would be your own preference that matters. If I would even decide on spending extra bucks, I would spend it on a dual-GPU card (5970) instead.
The thing i like about the 480 is the stock heat sink
They made this because they HAD to, not because they wanted to. How many reference headsinks do you know of that are monsters like this bad boy?
If the 480 used as much power as the 5870, and produced the same amount of heat. The $100 would be worth it, the price will gradually come down anyways. However, the heat and power consumption make me nervous and sort of baffle me. If they refined this card alot more it would be a beast. I don't think they were ready for production. Plus if I get a GTX480. I want ALL 512 cores.
^ Agree with the cores. Unfortunately that was not the case for 480. To perform better, it uses more power which in turn produces more heat. But who knows, they might be able to do something about this. Anyway, they should address first the supply issues.
You might not even find one even if you wanted to. So the 5870 is really the only choice.
Also many retailers are ramping up the price $50 - $100 above MRSP, just how the 5970s are retailing at $700.
If you didn't pre-order then the price difference between the 5870 and 480 may very well be $150-$200 or you simply can't get one.
I can swallow the cost of a 480 no problem. I bought many expensive things. Now the noise and heat is something else. Once upon a time I thought it was a good idea to get a pair of ATI 850XT in crossfire. It was so loud the noise hunted me, kept me up at night too. I was forever changed and now run liquid cooling. Noise is a thing of the past so I overclock like crazy. The liquid cooling was so good at dumping heat. My room temperature shot up and I was sweating in my shorts/T-Shirt when gaming. Now I only run with efficient levels of overclock and moved my table next to the window XD.
It is all about low power, low heat, and low noise. Which the GTX 480 has none of. The stock cooler is very very good, so im not sure manufacturers can top that. Even if they did top it, how much better would the cooler be? The only real option is liquid cooling but thats out of question for most people.